40 Microbiologists Killed: Something Fishy Going On?

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posted on Aug, 24 2005 @ 12:45 PM
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This is rather suspicious, could all these scientists be a part of a program researching an even deeper section on micro territory, or could all these scientists just be linked to a suspisious death ring all in the past 4 years. Which also happened to be after the Bush election.

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posted on Aug, 26 2005 @ 02:22 PM
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I'll just add one thought that drifted through my head...Since these killings started after 9/11, what about the possibility that these scientists uncovered an inside link to 9/11? I didn't save the url,because it seemed kind of far-fetched of an idea, but there was one guy who had theorised that all the passengers on the planes had been gassed.Course, then we go back to the validity of the phone calls...
Oh well....I'll try to adjust my thinking cap a little better next time!

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posted on Aug, 26 2005 @ 03:56 PM
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I noted previously the way the deaths are all differently caused, using all kinds of weapons, even objects lying around, even people as objects.
Normally this pattern is associated with unplanned murders, which is at odds with the scope and perfection of these unnatural deaths, almost giving the impression that unaccessible variables are being manipulated.
Either the microbiologists had come across some important knowledge or they could be helpful against some future threat.



posted on Aug, 26 2005 @ 05:03 PM
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Well,yeah, there doesn't seem to be an MO here does there? Perhaps the killer is so smart he knows how to cover his tracks and wants to keep any investigators from connecting the dots. Someone who was trained in the biz, like a police man, military CIA cover up hit man. Of course there may be more than one killer....ya thunk?


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posted on Aug, 27 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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Do people here think this might be something to do with this bird flu virus or something similiar.

I recently found out that the AIDS virus was man made in 1971 by an american scientist working on the somesort of virus program for the US.
Alex Jones interviewed the man himself and here's the proof by Boyd Graves. www.boydgraves.com

In light of this i predict a similiar virus will be unleashed as part of the the de population program. Population growth being the biggest threat to american national security. God knows what they've got brewin for us.

Evil ****ers



posted on Aug, 27 2005 @ 06:52 PM
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I hear ya...I've read that too about Aids being man made, and it really does make sense. Right now, it would appear that the higher-ups don't want to risk another 9-11 incident inside America because of all the controversy on the issue and the continual pressure from citizens for another investigation.

So in order to continue with their New World Order plans, which include population control by spreading viruses, they could then be planning to spread these diseases here to gain more control of the masses, and there's the added benefit that it certainly would take the focus off about the 9-11 attacks.

We know most of Bush's appointees have military backgroungs, right? Smoke screens are commonly used within the military, and the government also uses the propoganda media machines to get the people to think of other things while they are up to no good. (recall they used the media of Saddams capture to avoid notice to quitely sign the Patriot Act into law without a fuss?). It would make sense that the PNAC program of population control would use viruses; and military high ups would have to know about it since they are spread using Air Force jets known as chemtrails(see by other post page 8).

I just got another thought here...in Michael Ruppert's book "Crossing The Rubicon" he theorised a computer "maestro"(CHENEY?) had used the PROMIS software WHICH IS INSTALLED IN ALL GOVERNMENT COMPUTERS and ONE PERSON can override everyone of them.. Rupperts' scenario was that this "maestro" had made the false blips on the FAA radar to throw off the tracking of planes to allow the success of the 9/11 attacks. His scenario makes sense because at one point in time the FAA had been confused whether or not flight 11 was even still in the air, and that was quite a long time after it had already crashed.

Now, using that information of computers...,[b/] if one of these scientists or microbioligists were computer literate enough, would it make sense that they might have discovered a diabilical plan using a virus as population control on their computer? Kind of like being a hacker. It would explain why eventhough they all lived in different areas, they could still have something in common....government computers.

One step further...if each of them found this government top secret plan, I'm sure those in charge would consider them as being a risk of divulging it....so they had to be "eliminated".

Did I make anyone wonder? Come on people, let's connect the dots!


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posted on Aug, 27 2005 @ 07:04 PM
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I tgink they could have all been willing enough to do something unlike the rest of the drones who don't question, just create.

"What was that Bush... 1 Aids virus comin up!"

How does that guy sleep at night.

Anyway, yeah they probably all worked on something together or came across some sort of discovery that the government already new about and didnt want it to be a public thing.

God knows how deep the rabbit whole goes mate!



posted on Aug, 27 2005 @ 07:41 PM
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Well, I’ve been following Steve Quayle for a while now, and he doesn’t seem to be able to provide much documentation to his assertions. First of all, his “forty microbiologists” on his list are only thirty, and of them, 12 are not microbiologists. So now we’re down to 18. Three of them were Russians, living in a very high-crime area (Moscow) and seemed to be caught up in robberies which aren’t exactly all that rare over there. Two more were killed in Baghdad, another rather dangerous place for anyone to work! Two more seem to have been killed in a murder suicide thing, whether a love duo, a triangle, or a disgruntled fellow employee we aren’t told, but that’s hardly the hallmark of a contract killing. Three more were killed along with a bunch of other people in a plane crash, which, although rare, sometimes happens, and another person crashed his own private plane.

So now we’re down to seven, not forty.



posted on Aug, 28 2005 @ 09:53 PM
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Danny Casolaro was the investigative journalist mysteriously "suicided" in a West Virginia hotel room while investigating the theft of PROMIS software. Casolaro's investigation had uncovered a shadowy network he called "the Octopus" that seemed to have its hands in everything from drug trafficking and money laundering, all the way up to political assassinations and coups d'etat. When Casolaro's body was discovered, his arms were violently slashed and all the documents he traveled with were missing. He had told friends and relatives if anything happened to him they shouldn't believe it was by accident.


Another connection?



posted on Aug, 30 2005 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by ABC_123



Danny Casolaro was the investigative journalist mysteriously "suicided" in a West Virginia hotel room while investigating the theft of PROMIS software. Casolaro's investigation had uncovered a shadowy network he called "the Octopus" that seemed to have its hands in everything from drug trafficking and money laundering, all the way up to political assassinations and coups d'etat. When Casolaro's body was discovered, his arms were violently slashed and all the documents he traveled with were missing. He had told friends and relatives if anything happened to him they shouldn't believe it was by accident.


Another connection?


The Octopus = La Piovra = MAFIA
Interesting. The original Italian MAFIA has expertise in creating problems that only they can solve. They are into all sorts of shady deals, so why not diseases and antidotes?



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 06:15 PM
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Well, I checked through Stephen Quayle's list and found obits and such for evreyone on it, it is true that some of these people are not microbioligists but all are in related fields. I also found a couple he missed, this is as complete a list as I could come up with:

November 6, 2001: Jeffrey Paris Wall's body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. Mr. Wall, 41, had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles. He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property. It had been alleged that Jeffrey Wall had a connection to Biofem.

November 16, 2001: Dr. Don Wiley, 57, disappears during a business trip to Memphis, Tennessee. He had just bought tickets to take his son to Graceland the following day. Police found his rental car on a bridge outside Memphis. His body was later found in the Mississippi River. Wiley was one of the world's leading researchers of deadly viruses, including HIV and the Ebola virus. He was an expert on the immune system's response to viral attacks.

November 21, 2001: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian defector Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik, 64, dies of a stroke. Pasechnik, who defected to Britain in 1989, succeeded in producing an aerosolized plague microbe that could survive outside the laboratory. He was connected to Britain's spy agency and recently had started his own company. "In the last few weeks of his life he had put his research on anthrax at the disposal of the [British] Government, in the light of the threat from bioterrorism.

November 24, 2001: Three more dead microbiologists: A Swissair flight from Berlin to Zurich crashes during its landing approach; 22 are killed and nine survive. Among those killed are Dr. Yaakov Matzner, 54, dean of the Hebrew University school of medicine; Amiramp Eldor, 59, head of the haematology department at Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv and a world-recognized expert in blood clotting; and Avishai Berkman, 50, director of the Tel Aviv public health department and businessman

December 10, 2001: Dead microbiologist: "Dr. Robert Schwartz, 57, was stabbed and slashed with what police believe was a sword in his farmhouse in Leesberg, Va. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and three of her fellow pagans have been charged." [Globe and Mail, 5/4/02] All were part of what they called a coven, and interested in magic, fantasy and self-mutilation. The police have no motive as to why they would have wanted to kill Schwartz, who was a single parent and said to be very close to his children. Schwartz worked at Virginia's Center for Innovative Technology on DNA sequencing and pathogenic microorganisms.

December 14, 2001: Dead microbiologist: Nguyen Van Set, 44, dies in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia. The lab had just been written up in the journal Nature for its work in genetic manipulation and DNA sequencing. Scientists there had created a virulent form of mousepox. "They realized that if similar genetic manipulation was carried out on smallpox, an unstoppable killer could be unleashed,"

January 2002: Two dead microbiologists: Ivan Glebov and Alexi Brushlinski. Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack and Brushlinski was killed in Moscow. Both were well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.

February 9, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Victor Korshunov, 56, is bashed over the head and killed at the entrance of his home in Moscow, Russia. He was the head of the microbiology sub-faculty at the Russian State Medical University and an expert in intestinal bacteria.

February 11, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Dr. Ian Langford, 40, is found dead, partially naked and wedged under a chair in his home in Norwich, England. When found, his house was described as "blood-spattered and apparently ransacked." He was one of Europe's leading experts on environmental risk.

February 28, 2002: Two dead microbiologists in San Francisco: While taking delivery of a pizza, Tanya Holzmayer, 46, is shot and killed by a colleague, Guyang Huang, 38, who then apparently shot himself. Holzmayer moved to the US from Russia in 1989. Her research focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine. Holzmayer was focusing on helping create new drugs that interfere with replication of the virus that causes AIDS. One year earlier, Holzmayer obeyed senior management orders to fire Huang.

March 24, 2002: Dead microbiologist: David Wynn-Williams, 55, is hit by a car while jogging near his home in Cambridge, England. He was an astrobiologist with the Antarctic Astrobiology Project and the NASA Ames Research Center. He was studying the capability of microbes to adapt to environmental extremes, including the bombardment of ultraviolet rays and global warming.

March 25, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Steven Mostow, 63, dies when the airplane he was piloting crashes near Denver, Colorado. He worked at the Colorado Health Sciences Centre and was known as "Dr. Flu" for his expertise in treating influenza, and expertise on bioterrorism. Mostow was one of the country's leading infectious disease experts.

November 12 2002: Dr. Benito Que, 52, was "an expert in infectious diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School. Police originally suspected that he had been beaten on in a carjacking in the medical school's parking lot. Strangely enough, though, his body showed no signs of a beating.

June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman, a UC San Diego expert on infectious diseases and, since Sept. 11, 2001 a consultant on bioterrorism. He was 47. Rickman died while on a teaching assignment in Lesotho, a small country bordered on all sides by South Africa. He had complained of a headache, but the cause of death was not immediately known. The physician had been working in Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews, director of the UC San Diego Medical Center's Owen Clinic, teaching African medical personnel about the prevention and treatment of AIDS.Rickman, the incoming president of the Infectious Disease Assn. of California, was a multidisciplinary professor and practitioner with expertise in infectious diseases, internal medicine, epidemiology, microbiology and antibiotic utilization

July 18, 2003: David Kelly, a British biological weapons expert, was said to have slashed his own wrists while walking near his home. Kelly was the Ministry of Defence's chief scientific officer and senior adviser to the proliferation and arms control secretariat, and to the Foreign Office's non-proliferation department. The senior adviser on biological weapons to the UN biological weapons inspections teams(Unscom) from 1994 to 1999, he was also, in the opinion of his peers, pre-eminent in his field, not only in this country, but in the world.

October 17, 2003: Professor Michael Perich dies in an apperent one vehicle car crash in which he veared into a puddle of rainwater causing his ford pickup to flip and Mr. Perich to drown. Perich, who worked for the U.S. Army for more than 15 years, joined the LSU faculty in August 2001 as an assistant professor of medical entomology. In addition to West Nile, Perich had also studied malaria and several other diseases, said Tim Schowalter, head of LSU's entomology department.

November 20, 2003: Scientist Robert Leslie Burghoff, 45 was killed by a hit and run driver that jumped the kerb and ploughed into him in the 1600 block of South Braeswood, Texas. He was studying the virus plaguing cruise ships. April 2004: Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly, a distinguished Iraqi chemistry professor dies in American custody from a sudden hit to the back of his head caused by blunt trauma. It was uncertain exactly how he died, but someone had hit him from behind, possibly with a bar or a pistol. His battered corpse turned up at Baghdad's morgue and the cause of death was initially recorded as "brainstem compression". It was discovered that US doctors had made a 20cm incision in his skull.

January 23, 2004: Dr. Robert E. Shope dies of complications during a lung transplant procedure. Dr. Shope was an expert on viruses who was the principal author of a highly publicized 1992 report by the National Academy of Sciences warning of the possible emergence of new and unsettling infectious illnesses.

January 24, 2004: Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley dies of a heart attack. Dr. Kiley was at the forefront in the early studies of Lassa fever, the Ebola virus and mad cow disease while at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Ga., the Jonas Salk Institute in Tannersville, Pa., and the U.S. Department of Agriculture in Beltsville, Md. He has traveled worldwide and helped develop the Hemorrhagic Virus Program for Health Canada as well as participating in many international conferences.

May 5, 2004: A Russian scientist at a former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia died after an accident with a needle laced with ebola. Scientists and officials said the accident had raised concerns about safety and secrecy at the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology, known as Vector, which in Soviet times specialized in turning deadly viruses into biological weapons. Vector has been a leading recipient of aid in an American programme.

May 14, 2004: Dr. Eugene F. Mallove, a Norwich Free Academy graduate, 56, died after being beaten to death during an alleged robbery. Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an “open letter” outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of “new energy research.” Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.

June 22, 2004: Astronomer and physicist, Austrian born Thomas Gold famous over the years for a variety of bold theories that flout conventional wisdom died of heart failure. Gold’s theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. He was Professor Emeritus of Astronomy at Cornell University and wass the founder (and for 20 years director) of Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research. He was also involved in air accident investigation.

July 3, 2004: Dr Paul Norman, 52, of Salisbury, Wiltshire, was killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon. He was married with a 14-year-old son and a 20-year-old daughter, and was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defence at the Ministry of Defence’s laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch and the wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at Farnborough.

July 21, 2004: Dr Bassem al-Mudares' mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq*. He was a phD chemist and had been tortured before being killed.

July 29, 2004: 67-year-old John Mullen, a nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas dies from a huge dose of poisonous arsenic. Police investigating will not say how Mullen was exposed to the arsenic or where it came from. At the time of his death he was doing contract work for Boeing.

August 12, 2004: Professor John Clark, head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep, was found hanging in his holiday home. Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world’s leading animal biotechnology research centres. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame. Prof Clark also founded three spin-out firms from Roslin - PPL Therapeutics, Rosgen and Roslin BioMed.

September 5, 2004: Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad. He was a practising nuclear physicist since 1984.

December 21, 2004: Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge in Baqouba, 57 km northeast of Baghdad. The vehicle swerved off the bridge and fell into the Khrisan river. Al-Daher, who was a professor at the local university, was removed from the submerged car and rushed to Baqouba hospital where he was pronounced dead.

January 7, 2005: Korean Jeong H. Im, retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri - Columbia and primarily a protein chemist, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car on the third level of the Maryland Avenue Garage. MUPD with the assistance of the Columbia Police Department and Columbia Fire Department are conducting a death investigation of the incident. A person of interest described as a male 6’ – 6’2” wearing some type of mask possible a painters mask or drywall type mask was seen in the area of the Maryland Avenue Garage.

April 11, 2005: Maurice Hilleman dies of cancer. Dr. Hilleman and his team at Merck & Co. developed about three dozen experimental and licensed animal and human vaccines, including 8 of the 14 routinely given to young children in the U.S. today. His work is credited by scientists for virtually wiping out many of the dreaded and deadly childhood diseases that remained common just 40 years ago. His MMR vaccine protects children against three different diseases - measles, mumps and rubella. Ironically, his death came less than one month after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that rubella had been eliminated as a health threat in the U.S.


This does look like some sort of a plot to me. I wonder if anyone could come up with odds of this many related-field scientists dying within this time period?
Regards,
Kyle (darkshadowdog)



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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Has anyone looked at if any of these people talked/typed etc. to eachother.....figure if they w'r top people (some of em) they would have at least emailed eachother ???? gone to conventions etc ?

Plus does the Bush family not own the rights to some of the most common pills on the market ? valume etc. etc.

But overall does seem a bit much and how they are killed is very strange.

Y'r Canadian friend,
Sven



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:01 PM
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Darkshadowdog...good work!Way to go!



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:13 PM
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I'm still compiling a spreadsheet of these cases; so far the number of deaths is around 65.

As mentioned in other posts, I'll host the spreadsheet somewhere when it's tabulated and completed; so far the information I'm including is:

Name, employer, specialty, date of death, official cause of death.

I can include date of birth, too, but that's not nearly as relevant.

I'll (as ever!) keep you posted.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:16 PM
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Might also want to add Date of Birth too or at least age at death.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:40 PM
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We cured Polio and havent made a dime off it since,Theres no money in curing disease.keeping AIDS and other diseases medicated but not cured is worth billions...nuff said



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by jimstradamus
We cured Polio and havent made a dime off it since,Theres no money in curing disease.keeping AIDS and other diseases medicated but not cured is worth billions...nuff said


We didn't cure polio. The vaccine is incredibly effective, but it hasn't yet been eradicated.

The vaccine was developed, yes...but there are still more than 500 cases every year.



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 10:33 PM
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ABC123 says:


Darkshadowdog...good work!Way to go!


Hardly.

Darkshadowdog's list is a word-for-word copy of the list cited by the original poster, except that darkshadowdog added three individuals, one of whom was an entomolgist (specializing in insects) and two others, one of whom died during a lung transplant operation (hardly an everyday procedure) and another died of a heart attack.

The original list, which I reviewed in an earlier post, and which Darkshadowdog copied, has some other problems with it as well. For example, it talks about a McDonnell Douglas scientist dying in 2004 -- and yet McDonnell Douglas ceased to exist seven years earlier! Just stuff like that makes me think that whomever put this article together, in addition to making nuclear physicists into "microbiologists", is just a pretty shoddy researcher.

And Darkshadowdog himself stretches when he says:


"... it is true that some of these people are not microbioligists but all are in related fields."


How is a nuclear physicist or an expert in intellectual property or someone who claimed to be a "cold fusion" expert or an astronomer or a chemist or a nuclear research engineer -- how are these people in a "related field" to microbiology?

Finally think about the demographics of the people. A lot of the guys who died were in their sixties. A lot more had travelled around the world examining serious diseases -- something that is not exactly the best thing for your long term health. One dies on the operating table during a lung transplant, several live in Moscow and Baghdad, two of the most dangerous cities in the world, and three or four of them are involved in plane crashes.

So what's the correlation? None that I see!

If that's the best evidence you have for a plot, you're not going to convince many people outside this forum.

And if there is a plot, why can't the original list maker play honestly with the figures instead of adding a whole bunch of people who aren't microbiologists and then claim that they are?



posted on Aug, 31 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Tinkleflower

Originally posted by jimstradamus
We cured Polio and havent made a dime off it since,Theres no money in curing disease.keeping AIDS and other diseases medicated but not cured is worth billions...nuff said


We didn't cure polio. The vaccine is incredibly effective, but it hasn't yet been eradicated.

The vaccine was developed, yes...but there are still more than 500 cases every year.

So if a vaccine for Aids was made available with the same effectiveness as the one for Polio how do they make money off the drug cocktails theyre selling now,considering the cocktail keeps em coming back for more over a longer period of time..preventing the vaccine is worth billions and your point on cure versus vaccine is irrelevant




posted on Nov, 9 2005 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Off_The_Street
ABC123 says:

How is a nuclear physicist or an expert in intellectual property or someone who claimed to be a "cold fusion" expert or an astronomer or a chemist or a nuclear research engineer -- how are these people in a "related field" to microbiology?

So what's the correlation? None that I see!



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