Let me Preface this! By saying I do not claim any truth value or belief in the validity of these sorts of practices. However you will see soon
that there is an element within this alt-right movement that does believe in them.
1. The "Pol" forum on the sites 4chan and "8ch" are the "hub" of the alt right movement. The site 8ch proclaims itself as "The
Darkest Reaches of the Internet".
The Pol forum essentially has an "Anything goes" policy and looking at it you will find anything from pornos to antisemetic rants and people
"doxing" the information of public officials. The chaotic environment and high volume of posts is important to note.
Every now and then, you will see posts like, "Should I get into paganism?" or, "Explain the meaning behind the Black Sun?". And sometimes you'll
find a post like this:
Hmm now what is he talking about? Meme magic? Transhumanism? What the crud is that?
Now surely... this is a comedy site, this guy must be Trolling and joking around...?
Now you don't have to watch this whole 40 min video (but feel free to). At first I thought this "Red Ice" channel was some sort of conspiracy
theory network, so I decided to take a look. It turns out though!! They are self-styled White Supremacist Occultists! Here is some of the
stuff they mention:
An ancient Egyptian Deity, Kek or Kuk. From the Wikipedia page (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kek_(mythology) ), "the deification of the concept of
primordial darkness". Represented as a frog. Yes, It's that frog. The Trump meme frog or whatever....
A meme of the Pepe frog as the Deity "Kek".
They also go deeper into this "Meme Magic" stuff-- The guy being interviewed, StyxHexenHammer666, a self styled Occultist who posts YouTube
videos on the subject-- claims it's a form of "Chaos Magick", that the spreading of memes which talk about Kek or Kuk or the frog is summoning up
power to "invoke" this deity.
Now this is crazy right!! These guys have to be nuts! I don't know what kind of "power" they're tapping into but I want nothing to do with
it. They also claim that they're members of the "Alt right" and that they're pushing some sort of racial supremacy crap.
3. Knowing that there is in fact serious discussion going on about this stuff among the Alt Righters, I decided to pay another visit to that
I don't know, what do you guys think of this stuff?
The Alt right is a huge thing right now in the media&politics, and who knows if any of this crap they believe in is true, but do we really want these
people and their message to get this much exposure?
4. See for yourself. "Pepe", "Kek", and "Cuck" are the three biggest memes among the Alt right community (and much of the internet at large!)
Now surely... this is a comedy site, this guy must be Trolling and joking around...?
You should have stopped right there. No one, aside from a few very confused people, think that kek won the election for Trump by using its' powers.
kek is in no way believed or worshipped, it is merely a flag for trolling under.
If there's any sort of quasi-mysticism at work, then while perhaps being (wittingly or unwittingly) exploited for influence or dissonance by certain
interests, I think much of it is subconscious personally. That said... I do believe "something" is happening at the moment, percolating at the
periphery of the internet, but increasingly winding its way into the heart of it... and spilling over into real life.
I used to think the "lel/kek" movement (to the extent it is one - it's more like memetic emergent behavior) was just happening in
gaming communities. I thought it was just trolling. But these days I'm not so sure.
I certainly don't believe it's an occult movement by any stretch of the imagination (though I think a small number would like us to believe it is...
because the capacity to wield fear of darkness - whether it's really there or not - is power, as Bannon recently alluded to.) But I do think it's a
manifestation of a sea change in the zeitgeist, or parts of it. When things happen that are unseen but bear visible manifestations, it can be
confusing and shocking, whether by design or merely as a byproduct of the underlying dynamics.
Perhaps it's the principle, albeit largely invisible, mechanism for what I was getting at
here. The visible manifestation appears strange and chaotic, hence the trickster. But
underneath, those ice bergs connect to a vein of equally chaotic discussion and memetic transmission, which I think is in part what you've described
in this topic. Just remember though, that just because it looks mystical, doesn't mean it is. There are two sides to every coin. The stark, empirical
side of this coin is sociology. The darker, secluded, more amorphous side of it, is mysticism. (Or the intended perception thereof.)
Archetypes and memes can be very powerful symbols, but they are not themselves the power or the entities... unless you believe they are. Then maybe,
for brief periods, as some believe, while literally inanimate, they can functionally act like entities and even effect changes in reality. But it's
really just us, all along. (Or is it?) Take your pick.
Disturbing either way? I'd say yes, personally. In either case, misanthropy has been made cool and acceptable and increasingly normalized. Rage - no
longer merely outrage - is ascendant.
I did not encounter "Transhumanism" in any of the quotes or links from the op, I only saw "post-human". Although the terms are related, they carry
very different meanings. Transhumanism is a type of Posthumanism, but Posthumanism is not Transhumanism. Your op has nothing to do with
I travel within the social circles of occultists, and I must say, occultism knows no political bounds. To declare occultism as an Alt-Right trend is a
complete fabrication, for I have met more occultist from the Left, the Democratic Party, and the Liberal Movement than I have from the Right,
Alt-Right, or Republican Party. Although this is my own experience and observation, I reiterate that occultism knows no political bounds.
originally posted by: lorge Let me Preface this! By saying I do not claim any truth value or belief in the validity of these sorts of practices. However you will see soon
that there is an element within this alt-right movement that does believe in them...
You have explained the principles of kek perfectly. Not in what you have said, but in what you have done.
Top kek is had when normies try to understand what kek is.
Kek is nothing. Getting people to write posts claiming that kek is actually something, is top kek.
The more extravagant or ridiculous the explanation of what kek is, the toppier it is.
originally posted by: and14263
The alt right racism is a shill plant by HRC CTRs because the meme magik was getting too strong.
That isn't true though. It's not exactly so black and white as being Racist or not Racist though either.
True some Alt-Right may not be Racist over all but the Alt-Right movement itself, from the start and at it's core does in fact hold strong to the
principle of being Anti-Jew. This cannot be dismissed or ignored. That alone, by definition is Racism.
It's not with all Alt-Righters obviously. But to say it's a plant or doesn't exist is just false.
People like to point out the inclusion of many Pro-White organizations too but they aren't the core of the movement. They have joined together in a
lot of cases as they are heading in a similar direction however their goal in many cases may not be the same nor their ideas on how to get there. But
they are aligned and willing to work with each other as a means to an end even if that end may vary to some degree.
It's starting to form it's own mythology behind the movement. This isn't too much of a surprise actually. You get enough people organized and
thinking the same way and this will eventually start happening.
Personally I find it to be very interesting actually. Meme magic is like any other form of magic basically. It's just a different method. Magic in
all forms (other than stage magic) is the same at it's core. It's about using "will" to alter or manipulate reality. Whether it's Voodoo or Pagan
magic or whatever. It's about using the power of ones "Will" to make that reality actually happen. Meme's are just a new way of doing it. Meme's in
other words could be considered what a Magic Spell Scroll or Potion would have been in the past. It's the tool being used to focus that "Will" to
achieve what is desired.
where it's referenced in the URL. But in the actual text it's referred to as "post-humanism". Anyway thanks. And wow, I didn't expect so many people
on here to be "in on it"... usually this is more of a place for fringes and outsiders.
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