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John Podesta Fuels Russian Conspiracy Theory: Urges Electoral College To Revisit Election

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: ColdWisdom

ROFL

You know, I'm sitting here watching people who have spent the last 8 years proclaiming to be patriotic and anti-Obama (because they believed he wasn't a US national) now acting like sheep over the suggestion - by the CIA no less - that a foreign power (and Russia at that) may have intervened in a US election campaign and claiming its a Clinton conspiracy

Hell, some of these people would be calling for war had it been suggested that a democrat candidate had been aided.

Its like US politics has a massive case of patriotic amnesia. Its quite comedic.





Please explain what they did. Use a few words as possible, so everyone can understand your point.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Christosterone

Sematics. Put the shoe on the other foot. If there had even been a hint of it, the right would have gone ape.

And yet because its Trump, they accept it.

Except they didn't. Did they? Look at all the hooha when other countries leader stated that Trump would be a bad choice. They didn't like that one little bit. Nope. Know your roles and shut your mouths world, this is OUR election.... unless the Russians have some influence on it... then thats ok....



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
John Podesta left his phone in a taxi cab...and admitted it. Why isn't this being discussed as the hacking source for his account?


I heard he left it in the Russian Embassy on purpose.



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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
Imagine that headline on Brietbart eh?

Who'dathunkit

#notanunbiasedsource
#ifithadbeensuggestedthattherussianshelpedobamayou'dhaveallgonenutsaboutitandwantedhimshot


Can you disprove it or just attack the source?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: ColdWisdom

ROFL

You know, I'm sitting here watching people who have spent the last 8 years proclaiming to be patriotic and anti-Obama (because they believed he wasn't a US national) now acting like sheep over the suggestion - by the CIA no less - that a foreign power (and Russia at that) may have intervened in a US election campaign and claiming its a Clinton conspiracy

Hell, some of these people would be calling for war had it been suggested that a democrat candidate had been aided.

Its like US politics has a massive case of patriotic amnesia. Its quite comedic.


Speaking of Obama,

Would you care to tell us your thoughts on how Obama spent $$ on a PAC in Israel to air anti-Netanyahu TV ads during their last election?

It wasn't illegal, but our current POTUS did attempt to influence the Israeli election. Specifically, he wanted to prevent Netanyahu from getting reelected.

He obviously failed.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: network dude

They spend considerable time and effort trying to prove that the president of the USA was being influenced by other factors, and suggested people were crazy for not believing them.

Now they aren't bothered about the suggestion.

Clear enough for you?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: neformore
Imagine that headline on Brietbart eh?

Who'dathunkit

#notanunbiasedsource
#ifithadbeensuggestedthattherussianshelpedobamayou'dhaveallgonenutsaboutitandwantedhimshot


Can you disprove it or just attack the source?


No he can't and there are many sources of the same story.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom

So you are complaining about Obama trying to influence an election, but you're happy to dismiss a suggestion that the Russians may have done so?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: neformore

LOL, no, what did the ruskies do? this isn't about dem vs. repub, it's about national security right?


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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: neformore


So you are complaining about Obama trying to influence an election, but you're happy to dismiss a suggestion that the Russians may have done so?


I am happy to look at the facts.

Obama influencing Israeli elections is a fact.

Russia influencing our election is an allegation, a witch hunt.

Until you or anybody comes up with credible evidence to suggest otherwise, the burden of proof will remain on the accusers.

Trump got Trump elected. Get over it.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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Remember when the Russians hacked the White House in 2014?


The White House’s computers were down for weeks because of the intrusion by a “foreign power,” which the administration finally identified as Russia. It wasn’t just the White House, either; it was the entire Executive Office of the President, which comprises a good chunk of the executive branch. Nor was that all: the State Department’s computer system was hacked, too.


The MSM press kept quite about it as did the Administration because it was right before the midterms. It would have looked bad to admit they got hacked.

No one mentioned it until well after the elections.

Now, my question is ... If they knew back then, why didn't they do anything? And why is it only NOW that it's suddenly important?

I think we all know but I'll say so --- it suits the agenda for it to be important now.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: Christosterone

Sematics. Put the shoe on the other foot. If there had even been a hint of it, the right would have gone ape.

And yet because its Trump, they accept it.

Except they didn't. Did they? Look at all the hooha when other countries leader stated that Trump would be a bad choice. They didn't like that one little bit. Nope. Know your roles and shut your mouths world, this is OUR election.... unless the Russians have some influence on it... then thats ok....



This is about the losing party trying to influence the electoral college into ignoring the state vote based on claims with no evidence attached. It has nothing to do with Obama's tenure.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: neformore

If [they did fyi] Obama PACS ran ads against Netanyahu in Israels presidential election to "influence" the outcome this would be legal...

Had they hacked polls in tel aliv to change vote totals then they would have been guilty of election "intervention"...

It's not semantics, it's the law...

Even if Russia leaked the documents to Assange they did not illegally alter our election results...

FYI Assange has intimated Seth Rich was the leaker, not the Russians...

-Chris



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

I really have to wonder why Podesta is still walking around and not in some special rendition program in Morocco, Somalia or south Africa? Is the CIA handlers for he Clintons or is it the other way around?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Breitbart is/was run by Trumps campaign manager.

Its not going to publish anything that suggests there might be something to this story, is it?

And its certainly going to try and make capital to discredit the opposition.

In the meantime, the CIA is suggesting something nefarious occurred, and Congress wants an investigation. No one is saying the result of the election may change, but the very idea of foreign influence in a US election that benefitted a democratic candidate would have been leaped on by Trump supporters as unpatriotic and damning. Because it may have benefitted Trump, however, it is apparently fantasy and fine.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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And I urge the FBI to bust him for running the Paid Riot Squads (for starters).



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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What I don't get, is that people are ignoring the elephant of a fact in the room, that any Russian influence was directly to affect HRC.
Not to Elect Trump.

Russia would have done this no matter who was running on the Republican ticket.


So I have to call bull on Podesta's claims.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: neformore

Here, so it's clear enough for YOU,

originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: ColdWisdom

ROFL

You know, I'm sitting here watching people who have spent the last 8 years proclaiming to be patriotic and anti-Obama (because they believed he wasn't a US national) now acting like sheep over the suggestion - by the CIA no less - that a foreign power (and Russia at that) may have intervened in a US election campaign and claiming its a Clinton conspiracy

Hell, some of these people would be calling for war had it been suggested that a democrat candidate had been aided.

Its like US politics has a massive case of patriotic amnesia. Its quite comedic.





You seem to think that it's comedic that Trump supporters aren't really, really angry that Russia hacked the US and intervened in a US election. If that's wrong, you really need to speak up here.

Now, knowing all that, and fully understanding that there is no argument over what happened, what is the bad thing here?

is it A. that Russia hacked Podesta's mail and Clinton's unsecured server?
or, B. that all those inconvenient facts were exposed and now the world know of the corruption that likely caused Clinton to loose to Trump in the US election?

Or.....Is there a third option that I am missing?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: LSU0408

Breitbart is/was run by Trumps campaign manager.

Its not going to publish anything that suggests there might be something to this story, is it?

And its certainly going to try and make capital to discredit the opposition.

In the meantime, the CIA is suggesting something nefarious occurred, and Congress wants an investigation. No one is saying the result of the election may change, but the very idea of foreign influence in a US election that benefitted a democratic candidate would have been leaped on by Trump supporters as unpatriotic and damning. Because it may have benefitted Trump, however, it is apparently fantasy and fine.


No one is saying that the elections were hacked. Not the CIA or anyone else.

Any evidence of the DNC being hacked is being conflated with the election itself. Trying to change the mind of the electoral college based on zero claim of election hacking and zero evidence is a political play to undermine the election and over ride the state results.



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