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Why am I supposed to hate Russia?

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

On contrary we very much could.

Actually you can include China and North Korea too. Or rest of world.

They wouldn't be able to get close.

People under estimates power of US military. In a US vs Any one else America wins hands down. We could occupy world right now, but choose not too. If Hitler was American in modern times it's over.

I believe America has 8x world's navy and airforce. Better equipment. They have enough technology to shoot down nukes and shut down rest of the world's satellite systems. It wouldn't make for a fun video game, which is why people think that.

America with no Geneva laws (which would happen) would Nuke China and Russia and would combat the rest fairly easily. Never forget Air warfare wins battles and American kept stealth bomber secret for over 20 years. Imagine what else is hidden in secret.

HARP can control the weather and make it very disastrous to any nation.

edit on 12-12-2016 by Anonopolis because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


Let's just cut to the chase. Some dishonest people are creating a Russian crisis because Hillary lost the election and they need someone to blame. That's all.


And they have a time machine and went back in time and accused Russia of hacking the DNC before the first email was ever released! Remarkable!



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: jtma508
a reply to: network dude

Bullsh!t you grew-up in the heart of the Cold War. If you're almost 50 you didn't see any of the real Cold War. I'm 65 and I was very young when Khrushchev was promising the elimination of the US. I was just 10 when my family was awoken by a call in the middle of the night telling my dad, an officer in the Army Reserves, he was being activated and to initiate the 'phone tree' because we were on the verge of nuclear war with the Russians because they had placed nuclear missiles in Cuba. At 'almost 50' you didn't see jack as far as the Cold War went. Sure, you got to see the economic warfare that was waged as the USSR started coming unraveled. But the Cold War? The one that was a fart away from starting a nuclear war> You were still a happy little sperm when all that was going on. Give me a break.




Wow, I am SOOOOOOOOO sorry I angered you. I admit I wasn't alive during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And It's likely just my imagination remembering all the threats of Global Thermal Nuclear War that were bandied about with reckless abandon. I imagined learning about what life would be like after the Nuclear winter.

I guess the cold ware was over in 1969.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

MAD was why nuclear war shouldn't happen, but it was nonetheless scary times to live in, adult or child. What I find scary now (outside of North Korea with a nuke) is the drift toward tactical nuclear weapons (wiki).

US presses on with ‘tactical nukes’ despite outcry

Pakistan Clarifies Conditions for Tactical Nuclear Weapon Use Against India

As has been said, after a war involving nuclear weaponry, the living will envy the dead.

lol We get upset now when an earthquake in Japan shuts down a car parts plant, or when a Chinese holiday delays our online order. Chernobyl was bad enough. A battlefield nuclear weapon is not going to be good.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
the cult-like manifesto keeps on rolling.

strange thing.

Trump has a hypnosis-like grip on things.
everyone he allies with or says is now good.

think hard about russia.


OK. Why was I supposed to dislike the Russians before Trump?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth
To answer the question in the OP... you are supposed to hate Russia because Clinton lost.
It's that simple.


Not because they murdered thousands of Chechens in a ruthless bombing campaign? Not because they have taken bites out of their neighbors? Not because they burned Ukrainians alive? Not because they invaded Crimea and lied about it? Not because they shot down a civilian airliner and blamed it on someone else? Not because they are funding extremist political parties around the world?

Not that simple after all, is it, Comrade?


Obama let all that happen.

Shouldn't you be angry at him and the red easy button Clinton handed the Russians during her tenure at Sec. State? It was supposed to say "reset" but they messed all that up.

I do recall when Russia invaded Georgia and Obama's response was the he supposed the UN Security Council would vote against it ... as if Russia would vote to sanction their own action!



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:04 PM
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Imagine if Russia was still socialist... if Castro was any indication, the left would be falling over themselves trying to call this fake news.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Pyle

*whew*

I'm just glad the UN gave us permission.

I guess harsh language is the next step?

Face it, Obama caved to Putin.



What would you have had Obama do?

Start a #ing war and get us all killed?


Obama can be blammed for a lot of things but not that.


Obama is weak. Russia invaded the Ukraine knowing that Obama would not hold up to the treaty he personally signed to protect them.
What to do?

Nothing now. Obama caved.

The point to stop this would have been before they invaded. If we were strong to begin with, invested in protecting our allies, then this would have never happened.

But it has and no one even mentions it any more.


The failure of the Obama Administration’s Russian “reset,” the unilateral disarming of Europe, and the U.S. reduction of forces and disengagement from Europe have led Russia to calculate that the West will not respond in any significant way.


www.heritage.org...


So you want war with Russia and you blame Obama for not giving it to you?



No.

You leftists want war with Russia because Russia might have exposed how corrupt our government and specifically, how corrupt the democrats are.

Yet, Russia invades a country and everyone is effing silent.


But you just condemned Obama for using the non-war option and are angry at him for not going to war with russia.


No.

Wrong again.

I condemn Obama for not being strong to begin with.



What would be stronger then crippling sanctions?

War is only other option we have to suppress Russian expansionism. Obama took the sanctions route and so far Russia has not pushed farther into Ukraine.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
To be frank, the US military probably couldn't handle a war with Russia and ISIS at the same time.

So the leftists choose Russia.



If we were to go to war with Russia it would not be some police action in the middle east. It would be full scale war which I am sure you know a much different can of wars.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian



The intelligence was played up by the [Bush] administration to make their case for war


You know, that is true. The CIA intelligence was different than what was cherry picked or presented by Cheney etal.


There's the indictment, issued by the intelligence officer who briefed Bush and Cheney: The Bush White House made a "false presentation" on "some aspects" of the case for war. "That's a big deal," Matthews exclaimed. Morell replied, "It's a big deal."

source

Trump is incorrect.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: desert

Use of tactical nuclear weapons against similarly-armed opponents carries a significant danger of quickly escalating the conflict beyond anticipated boundaries, from the tactical to the strategic.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The existence and deployment of small, low-yield tactical nuclear warheads could be a dangerous encouragement to forward-basing and pre-emptive nuclear warfare,[11][12] as nuclear weapons with destructive yields of 10 tons of TNT (e.g., the W54 warhead design) might be used more willingly at times of crisis than warheads with yields of 100 kilotons.

This frightens me also. I don't think of myself as a bad person, and I am probably one of the most generous and compassionate people you could ever stumble across. I proudly describe myself as a servant, and get immense joy out of serving my country and community.

I also try to be honest, especially with myself, and I know that I have a primal survival instinct that is autonomic, and as much as I hate to admit it, I have a vengeful streak the size of the North and South America combined. I hate this about myself and have been working on it for years, but under the right circumstances, if you kill my cat I am going to kill your dog, or die trying.

We have seen the kind of blind actions and damages that have been unleashed on innocent people that had absolutely nothing to do with the hurt, destruction, and deaths of people in recent conflicts. Imagine the kind of backlash that would follow the use of nuclear weapons as an attack against any country. WWIII would be one of the shortest wars every fought, and MAD would definitely ensue, because there are too many flawed people like me in this world.

I just pray that they see their flaws as clearly as I see mine and never allow this BS to ever come to that point. Otherwise, the results will be Biblical.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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Russia is allied with humanoid species, they dropped reptilians.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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because the new world order who run the USA are not allowed in Russia so that makes them the enemy,,as for Syria the American and west backed Isis who are just doing the west's chores of removing yet another leader on our behalf is not regarded highly by Putin, and so right ...



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: Pyle



What would be stronger then crippling sanctions?


And what's interesting, the sanctions were ok with some Russian economic sectors and bad with others Putin’s Reliance on American Commerce Has Never Been Greater.... like Tillerson's Exxon. Tillerson wants the sanctions gone, period.

It takes a strong leader to NOT be pushed to war by those surrounding him/her, and I don't see Trump as being a strong leader in that way. Trump could be convinced to engage with war somewhere. IMO I think that Putin sees Trump as weak also, which is why he would rather work with .... be able to influence.... Trump to side with him, Putin, over NATO or Western Europe. Putin gets a BFF who would have neither war (on Russia) nor sanctions and who would take his side in the region.
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: northwestuk
because the new world order who run the USA are not allowed in Russia so that makes them the enemy,,as for Syria the American and west backed Isis who are just doing the west's chores of removing yet another leader on our behalf is not regarded highly by Putin, and so right ...


Frankly I think it was more a case of political expediency on both sides since the message changed once the run up to the election began.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn



I just pray that they see their flaws as clearly as I see mine and never allow this BS to ever come to that point. Otherwise, the results will be Biblical.


Good thoughts, NightSky, good thoughts. I guess I am just much more cynical about events on a non-personal level, especially events on an international scale. When you get to the international level, it seems to be where certain flaws can be magnified, to the detriment of you and me. Flaws such as hubris, unreasonableness, and flaws that don't matter much on a personal level, like indifference, incuriosity.

Before Biblical proportions become a reality, we need to take Biblical advice in re to being prudent and wisdom. Amen.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


Obama let all that happen.


But it was Putin who actually did it. Obama could have been stronger. Hillary Clinton certainly would have been. If you were Putin, who would you want in the White House for the next four years?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
We now live in a world where the MSM promotes conspiracy theories and Alex Jones reports the news. Let that sink in.


Alex Jones reports the news? Now that's a laugh.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth
To answer the question in the OP... you are supposed to hate Russia because Clinton lost.
It's that simple.


Not because they murdered thousands of Chechens in a ruthless bombing campaign? Not because they have taken bites out of their neighbors? Not because they burned Ukrainians alive? Not because they invaded Crimea and lied about it? Not because they shot down a civilian airliner and blamed it on someone else? Not because they are funding extremist political parties around the world?

Not that simple after all, is it, Comrade?



Obama let all that happen.

Shouldn't you be angry at him and the red easy button Clinton handed the Russians during her tenure at Sec. State? It was supposed to say "reset" but they messed all that up.

I do recall when Russia invaded Georgia and Obama's response was the he supposed the UN Security Council would vote against it ... as if Russia would vote to sanction their own action!


And you would have preferred war???

That makes perfect sense.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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because Russian vodka is dangerous, it brainwashes you.




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