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Congratulations, Vladimir Vladimirovitch, you won!

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


If none of the emails content were true, then there would be an argument about the election, but since crimes have been exposed
Russia is NOT GUILTY.
Guilt for all of it lies solely with Hillary Clinton


Except that, contrary to what Russian propaganda keeps saying, the emails show no evidence of actual criminal activity, only backroom politics.


How about what the VOTERS said on election day? That contradicts the idea that no criminal wrongdoing was shown in those emails, otherwise why did so many vote for Trump? What you call backroom politics the America voters called dirty and despicable acts that cannot be forgiven.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


How about what the VOTERS said on election day?



The majority of voters didn't think they were important. They voted for Clinton anyway.


That contradicts the idea that no criminal wrongdoing was shown in those emails, otherwise why did so many vote for Trump?


They voted for Trump because he claimed he could bring their 19th century jobs back.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


How about what the VOTERS said on election day?



The majority of voters didn't think they were important. They voted for Clinton anyway.


That contradicts the idea that no criminal wrongdoing was shown in those emails, otherwise why did so many vote for Trump?


They voted for Trump because he claimed he could bring their 19th century jobs back.


No, the majority of voters did not vote for Clinton. Try and at least get some facts right in your rebuttals.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001


[Quote]He has manipulated the electoral process to place a weak minded demagogue in power.


By your own account you have stated that you have provided at best a bit of circumstantial evidence of this. I contend you have provided zero evidence.


He has flooded the media with so much static that people feel free to dismiss any disquieting fact as "fake news."


Are you referring to the U.S. media? If so then provide examples. If not this statement is irrelevant.


I can only hope that the scandals about to roil the United States government will serve as a wake up call.


A wake up call to what? We just might agree on something here.




There are such things as facts, and seeing them is a matter of observation and critical thinking, not opinion.


And you provide not even the slightest credible evidence to support what you present and allege as fact. I can go around telling everyone the Earth is hollow but I think they would have a hard time swallowing that pill without a glass of evidence.
edit on 12/12/2016 by Alien Abduct because: Fixed a quote



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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So, i have to wonder why aren't threads like this one thrown into the "hoax forum" or the lol forum?

There is not one iota of evidence that "the Russians rigged the voting process in the U.S."... For crying out loud, Hillary and her vice President could not get their rallies full most of the time, even in enclosed areas, meanwhile Donald Trump's rallies were always full, and there were lines of people waiting to get in, even in the open rallies...

It is obvious the left "hates" the fact that they cannot control a large portion of the American voters, hence they have to make up false claims. From claiming "only fake news made Trump win", and we are seeing them trying to suppress any form of website/news that does not tow the left wing party line. Now they, and the Hillary fans, want to claim that "Russia hacked the voting system"?...

You know, the first thing president elect Trump should do is fire everyone in the CIA, FBI, and everyone in charge of the military that President Obama put in charge. After all, President Obama fired, or "gave the option to retire" military leaders and people in charge that would not tow President Obama's craziness. Everyone which the present administration put in charge that has come up with these sort of ludicrous ideas, and anyone who is trying to silence news that go against the left wing party line should be fired by January.


edit on 12-12-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: jonnywhite

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Blaming Russia is nothing but a cop out excuse and useless Cold War rhetoric that no one has the indulgence to take seriously. Get real.


Are you saying that Putin is as incompetent as the KGB used to be?


Putin has zero interest in trying to influence a world superpower. I'm pretty sure he is too busy fixing that broken country of his.


No, he is busy trying to distract the Russian people from their floundering economy. He has promised to "Make Russia great again." (Sound familiar.) In order to do that, he needs to make every other country less great.


We have seen the media attempting to discredit trump at every corner. We have seen them and the democratic supporters lie every single minute we seen them open their mouths or when we switched any channel. We have seen the so called loving , peaceful, tolerant beat up and abuse trump supporters in mass out in the open we have been hearing what you all have been saying the whole time, we noticed the lying, we noticed being called bigots, racists, sexists, rapist 400 times a day including the talking heads on TV , we have seen the media and you lot repeat ad nausea "trump said all mexicans are rapist" 40 million times a day for over a year with not one of you bringing forth a rectification since that has never been said and the recording of his speech you lot created that out of proves that without a doubt which is why you lot never aired it again or dared to post its transcripts or tell your fellow "progressives" who have a even lower IQ then you and where even less capable of understanding words the truth about the matter because it worked so well in propagating your false narratives all the while you were so busy patting yourselves on the back because of your stuck up self righteous narcissistic ways that yo didn't even notice your ship had been burning and going down for months.


Good job though and, Thank you

Look here at an MSM news site:
www.washingtonpost.com - Donald Trump’s false comments connecting Mexican immigrants and crime...

It's true Trump never said ALL undocumented immigrants are bad, but he DID say Mexico's intent was to send people with problems, to hit us in trade and hit us with immigration. He insinuated the majority of them are criminals or are bringing problems with them. And that's wrong. Read the above link. There's no evidence Mexico is trying to undermine us through illegal immmigration. There's no evidence the people crossing hte border are any worse than you or me. They, like us, want opportunity. They, unlike many of us, are courageous enough to risk their life crossing the border. Yes, it'd be better if they tried to enter legally. The problem is it's not always easy to get a work permit like that. The system is corrupt--what isn't? Some of htem are also trying to escape abuse.


Reality tells you who will attempt to come into the country illegal and who will not. It is a simple fact that most who try to enter the U.S illegally will have some sort of criminal element/background to them. It is the foremost reason try and enter unseen. It is really simple, who will be the first we decline ? people with a criminal background, simple as that. The U.S is also not the only country that has had to deal with people trying to enter unseen and there is a lot of experience with it. Criminals have the most reason to come in in that manner, no doubt about that there.

It is a simple fact. People from the lower end of the societal spectrum with the least amount of money and the least amount of education (it all goes hand in hand) are the ones that make up the illegal immigrants. The ones who are higher up in society and have higher educations and jobs and finances to reflect that you dont see trying to stumble over a sandy border with their suitcases and children and in general we see in ALL societies that the poorer less educated ones harbor the most criminality.

I would like to see anyone claim with a straight face that that is not true.

Now on top of that when they come here it almost impossible for them to lead a crime free live. For one they are already criminals for entering the country illegally just like how breaking and entering is illegal and therefore it is going to be extra hard to survive without turning to crime, at the very least very hard. They will also be the first to be targeted to do dirty jobs that criminals that are already here (or have arrived here earlier) could make good use of and a lot are tempted into it.

They already criminalized themselves by entering illegally and set them selves up to be sucked into criminality if they already hadn't done so but the more likely hood is that most of the boarder jumpers were already criminal simply because that is the only way they would ever get in.

As for the Trump "quote"

" ALL MEXICANS ARE CRIMIN?ALS , ALL MEXICANS ARE RAPIST"

This we heard 500 times a day on every news channel and every liberal on every youtube video for months and months on end while that simply was never said and not...one...simple...honest...redaction..(and they knew it, certainty the MSM knew it). And many a times have people corrected them on it but what did they do with it? Absolutely nothing, they preferred to pretend it was so and on purpose.

This was no honest mistake. This was pure intentional and vicious indoctrination.

You want to talk about fake news ^ there is your true fake news



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
I admit defeat. Vladimir Putin, black belt judoka, has done what the KGB failed to do for eighty years. He has used the Western world's openness, freedoms, and liberality against the very system that protected them. He has used freedom of speech to undermine faith in liberal democracy. He has manipulated the electoral process to place a weak minded demagogue in power. He has flooded the media with so much static that people feel free to dismiss any disquieting fact as "fake news."

I can only hope that the scandals about to roil the United States government will serve as a wake up call. There are such things as facts, and seeing them is a matter of observation and critical thinking, not opinion.


Cool story bro

Now can anyone please help me find a safe space from all these tinfoil hat, Leftist morons spewing this preposterous drivel?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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Among the more aspirational and hopeful outlooks for the future that I've seen. I thought it was true what we were being told about Russia being tamed and broken and weak and no chance intellectually or militarillry against us. Sure good news that Machine and the Hidden Hand are so weak after all that puny little Vlad could do what he did. The rest of the gullible rabbits that think Truymk won because of a swelling nationalism, or a sick and tired shrinking middle class were probably all in on the hack in some way too. Boy are they in for a surprise when their man turns out to be related to Ethel and Julius. Well, thanks for educating us on why the election went the way it did. Those of us that are true critical thinkers were missing the little touches you made to clear it all up.
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posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Vladamir Putin is the MOST POWERFUL person in the world. He has the strength, power, and resources to control the entire USA and all of her allies. Vlad has overthrown the entire system, and it is a sight to behold.

THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!
THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!


Derp derp derp



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 12:26 AM
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That's wrong. Putin is getting his payback for when the US collapsed Russia's currrency in the 90's-2000's.



originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY
Blaming Russia is nothing but a cop out excuse and useless Cold War rhetoric that no one has the indulgence to take seriously. Get real.


Are you saying that Putin is as incompetent as the KGB used to be?


Putin has zero interest in trying to influence a world superpower. I'm pretty sure he is too busy fixing that broken country of his.

edit on 13-12-2016 by SeekingAlpha because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Yeah ok, that makes sense, but what about concrete evidence?



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:11 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

I'll share my borscht recipe with you. You can even make it in a crock pot if you want. It works best with bone-in pork, it kind of cuts down on that dirt-flavor of the beets.

We might as well get used to eating beet soup.

It might be all we can afford after Trump and his Russian/Turkish overlords are done strip mining America.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:16 AM
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a reply to: Kettu

Put more salt in that doom! I love it!



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: Substracto
a reply to: Kettu

Put more salt in that doom! I love it!


When reality sets in on how screwed over the people who voted for Trump actually become ...

I'll be running around with buckets to collect those salty tears...

And drying it all out so I can salt my HIGH ENERGY margarita rims in Mexico.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: Kettu

You know all about those salty tears, quite the specialist by now!



Good ridance!



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 04:20 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
I admit defeat. Vladimir Putin, black belt judoka, has done what the KGB failed to do for eighty years. He has used the Western world's openness, freedoms, and liberality against the very system that protected them. He has used freedom of speech to undermine faith in liberal democracy. He has manipulated the electoral process to place a weak minded demagogue in power. He has flooded the media with so much static that people feel free to dismiss any disquieting fact as "fake news."

I can only hope that the scandals about to roil the United States government will serve as a wake up call. There are such things as facts, and seeing them is a matter of observation and critical thinking, not opinion.

Assuming Russia was actually involved, all they did was expose a corrupt DNC which was a benefit and help to the American public. And...it is indisputed that the exposed information was factual.

So...Thanks Russia, thanks Putin! We owe you one!



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 05:12 AM
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originally posted by: Substracto
a reply to: DJW001

Yeah ok, that makes sense, but what about concrete evidence?


That's coming... although you will reject anything the American intelligence agencies say. Who would you prefer as American President again?



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: RazorV66


Now can anyone please help me find a safe space from all these tinfoil hat, Leftist morons spewing this preposterous drivel?


Sorry, but the space we shelter in from the tin foil hat wearing Fascist morons spewing their preposterous drivel for the past eight years is still occupied.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 05:16 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


There is not one iota of evidence that "the Russians rigged the voting process in the U.S."...


Please stop with the strawman. I never said that; on the contrary, right up until the election I was patiently explaining it to the morons who thought the DNC was going to "rig" the election.



posted on Dec, 13 2016 @ 05:22 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth


No, the majority of voters did not vote for Clinton. Try and at least get some facts right in your rebuttals.


According to Fox News (never a fan of Hillary) these are the results of the popular vote:

Hillary Clinton: 62,521,739

Donald Trump: 61,195,258

www.foxnews.com...

There's no point in urging you to have anything at all to do with facts.
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