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The Real Tax Plan of President Elect Donald Trump.

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:03 AM
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There is a thread in the forums which has a graph claiming to show President elect Donald Trump tax plan. I did a little digging and this is the real tax plan and not the one claimed in the other thread.



taxfoundation.org...

Below I am showing some excerpts and giving the links to both President elect Donald Trump tax plan for 2017, and President Obama's tax plan for 2016.


Details and Analysis of Donald Trump’s Tax Plan
September 29, 2015
By
Alan Cole


Key Findings:

Mr. Trump’s tax plan would substantially lower individual income taxes and the corporate income tax and eliminate a number of complex features in the current tax code.
Mr. Trump’s plan would cut taxes by $11.98 trillion over the next decade on a static basis. However, the plan would end up reducing tax revenues by $10.14 trillion over the next decade when accounting for economic growth from increases in the supply of labor and capital.
The plan would also result in increased outlays due to higher interest on the debt, creating a ten-year deficit somewhat larger than the estimates above.
According to the Tax Foundation’s Taxes and Growth Model, the plan would significantly reduce marginal tax rates and the cost of capital, which would lead to an 11 percent higher GDP over the long term provided that the tax cut could be appropriately financed.
The plan would also lead to a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs.
The plan would cut taxes and lead to higher after-tax incomes for taxpayers at all levels of income.

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Our analysis finds that the plan would reduce federal revenues by $11.98 trillion over the next decade. However, it also would improve incentives to work and invest, which could increase gross domestic product (GDP) by 11 percent over the long term. This increase in GDP would translate into 6.5 percent higher wages and 5.3 million new full-time equivalent jobs. After accounting for increased incomes due to these factors, the plan would only reduce tax revenues by $10.14 trillion.

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taxfoundation.org...

What were/are President Obama's tax plans for 2016?...


Proposed Tax Changes in President Obama’s Fiscal Year 2016 Budget

February 11, 2015
By
Andrew Lundeen

President Obama recently presented his budget proposal for the 2016 fiscal year. The budget proposes $3.99 trillion in spending and $3.53 trillion in revenue for a deficit of $474 billion for 2016 and a number of new tax proposals.

In total, the plan includes $2.4 trillion in proposed tax increases offset by $713 billion in new credits, deductions, and other offsets, for a total tax increase of nearly $1.7 trillion over the next ten years.
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Tax Increases

The president proposes $1.85 trillion in tax increases, with many of the tax increases focused on high-income earners.

Increase Capital Gains Tax Rate to 28 Percent and Eliminate Stepped Up Basis

The president’s proposal would increase the top capital gains tax rate from 23.8 percent to 28 percent (37.2 percent in California) and eliminate stepped-up basis—a change would potentially create a 68 percent tax on capital gains upon death. Our analysis finds that the capital gains tax increase alone would shrink the economy by 0.8 percent, eliminate 135,000 jobs and actually lose revenue in the long run. Revenue estimate: $208 billion over ten years.
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taxfoundation.org...


edit on 12-12-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: add link.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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I like it.

But without deep cuts to government spending it could cause solvency problems over the next decade.

Entire departments would have to be axed. Not that I have a problem with that, but good luck getting congress to go along with it. We all know republicans are just as much in favor of big government as are democrats.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:37 AM
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My question would be while cutting federal taxes what's to stop State governments from feeling free to raise them exponentially? Without addressing both in many places I can see any gains being sucked up in new taxes by local government and the State.

A little pessimistic I know, but probably realistic.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: Caver78

The federal government cannot tell states how to tax citizens.

It would have already if it had that power. It's a good thing they don't.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 04:44 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I like it.

But without deep cuts to government spending it could cause solvency problems over the next decade.

Entire departments would have to be axed. Not that I have a problem with that, but good luck getting congress to go along with it. We all know republicans are just as much in favor of big government as are democrats.


So it's great to keep 800 factory jobs in Illinois but entire federal departments need to be axed?

And what about those jobs?

Keep 800 unskilled labor jobs while creating millions of unemployed?

Great plan.......



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: Caver78

Then businesses would move to States that aren't taxing them into bankruptcy. That's how a free market works.


originally posted by: AlbanArthur

originally posted by: projectvxn
I like it.

But without deep cuts to government spending it could cause solvency problems over the next decade.

Entire departments would have to be axed. Not that I have a problem with that, but good luck getting congress to go along with it. We all know republicans are just as much in favor of big government as are democrats.


So it's great to keep 800 factory jobs in Illinois but entire federal departments need to be axed?

And what about those jobs?

Keep 800 unskilled labor jobs while creating millions of unemployed?

Great plan.......


Federal jobs absolutely need to get axed. The Govt. is obscenely bloated with agencies doing redundant work, while doing it horribly inefficiently.
Those people will find jobs in the real economy and actually contribute to society instead of leaching off taxpayers while making life more difficult for everyone. Which is about the only thing the Govt. does well.

Less federal jobs means more tax money can go where it's needed most like infrastructure, education... or tax cuts.

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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: AlbanArthur

Government feeds off the labor of the people. Most departments work to some degree or another to eat the fruits of citizens' labor and liberty.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Caver78

The federal government cannot tell states how to tax citizens.

It would have already if it had that power. It's a good thing they don't.

Yes they can . Federal Taxes. And any that have to do with Interstate Trade.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: AlbanArthur




Keep 800 unskilled labor jobs while creating millions of unemployed?

Source?



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

He isn't even in office,he has no tax plan etched in stone,I find it funny how everyone becomes a psychic,kind of like the phone call,on pure speculation



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: AlbanArthur

They are un needed. The fed was never intended to be a gravy train

Op, this is more like it. Putting me in a better tax bracket will keep much more money available for recirculation into the economy via my family and farm
edit on 12-12-2016 by BlueJacket because: Eta



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Interstate commerce is one thing. Internal state taxation policies are a different story.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

He isn't even in office,he has no tax plan etched in stone,I find it funny how everyone becomes a psychic,kind of like the phone call,on pure speculation


There is zero reason to have a "tax plan" at all until congress can ballance the federal budget without shut downs every 2 years.

The one he proposed is deficit spending that hedges it's neutrality in/ at very specific and perfect scenario to unfold within a budget year.

His trade agreements could disrupt the cpi exponentially creating Walmart to double prices, suply lines to become expensive.

His drastic immigration will raise the cost of labor in food production from farming to cooking, and increase building labor costs.

These are all things that take decades and should be done by congress.

Any president Democrat or republican who wants to do it all should be strongly scrutinized.

Personally I was hoping for a lame duck Sanders with a Republican congress to completely stalemate any more "progress" the feds give us.

Exon ceo as sec of state? Talk about welfare. That company who makes tens of billions in profits gets 1.8 billion in subsidies and pays 300k a day to lobby.

How about no subsidies for oil and gas or green energy and see who can out compete each other. My guess is oil becomes a market for plastics and chemicals and energy decides to use science that isn't based on steam engines from 140 years ago and we would have lots of new manufacturing jobs.
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posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 10:38 AM
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What worries me is that if we have more "disposable" income, the FED will increase interest rates on the ghost money they invent out of thin air. I keep hearing that P.E. Trump has a plan to offset both the FED and the IRS. These two pseudo agencies basically keep the American economy held down.

Could it be he is holding that info close to his chest so as not to spook them? IDK...



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I like it.

But without deep cuts to government spending it could cause solvency problems over the next decade.

Entire departments would have to be axed. Not that I have a problem with that, but good luck getting congress to go along with it. We all know republicans are just as much in favor of big government as are democrats.


Yeah - maybe we'll get rid of the WAR MACHINE!!!



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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Has anybody considered the standard tax deductions ?

Lots of confusion.




posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

LOL...I knew that. The problem is that States will see our extra income as a windfall and raise taxes on all sorts of things making the federal reduction moot. It's very conceivable that the gas tax will rise, local county taxes etc...

Of course businesses will move where taxes are cheaper, but for those of us who live in greedy states are rather hosed.



posted on Dec, 12 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
I like it.

But without deep cuts to government spending it could cause solvency problems over the next decade.

Entire departments would have to be axed. Not that I have a problem with that, but good luck getting congress to go along with it. We all know republicans are just as much in favor of big government as are democrats.


Entire depts to be axed... sounds great. The CIA would be a good start.




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