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Big business warns Trump against mass deportation

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posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 09:24 PM
Are these big businesses worried about the tax payer as the story suggests? Or is it the excess in labor supply that helps depress wages? I think it is more about these big businesses keeping the wages low.

Industry leaders want a forgiving immigration policy. Is this about economic development? Wonder what they mean? Is it the fact that an extra 10 million worker bees depress wages? More for the big corps less for the employees?

But others are assembling teams of public officials and industry leaders on the ground in key states to encourage Trump to embrace a more forgiving immigration policy — in the name of economic development, if not human compassion. With partners like DIsney and Bloomberg, there ii is little wonder that they want cheap labor, look at Disney's recent H1 visas.

The election showed the politicians how frustrated the American people are with the immigration system. And they now want action.

This election clearly showed that Americans are wildly frustrated with our broken immigration system," said Jeremy Robbins, executive director of the New American Economy, a group whose board includes Bloomberg, Murdoch and leaders of business giants Marriott, Disney and Boeing. "But it would be a mistake to equate their desire for someone to secure the border with support for mass deportation or other hardline policies that would both devastate the economy and undermine core American values."

Mass deportation could lead to negative economic consequences. Supposedly reducing the GDP by 1 trillion and cost tax payers 400 million. Luckily the illegal alien problem doesn't cost taxpayers anything now/sarc.

Yet business groups note that experts have predicted negative economic consequences should Trump pursue mass deportation. A study released in February by the right-leaning American Action Network found that such a plan could reduce "real GDP by $1 trillion" and cost taxpayers more than $400 billion.

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posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 09:45 PM
We shouldn't let big business try to dictate immigration, for the people being deported someone here will take those jobs, and big business can afford to pay them.
Companies such as Disney have plenty of money to pay good wages and by doing so it really won't hurt their pockets that much, they expect us to be happy we get paid enough to barley get by but if their CEO'S don't get million in just bonus they think the sky is falling, when is enough enough?
I could probably live comfortably on the bonus of a banks CEO'S bonus, not even considering their over paid salaries. .....and alot of people who live for money are not happy, they work until they don't have time to enjoy the ends of their lives. ...just sad

posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 09:45 PM
Yeah , big business loves the cheap-a** labor. They can hire illegals for a dime a dozen. Then , if that group doesnt pan out , terminate em and hire another group of the same. Nobody is the wiser.

posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 09:55 PM
a reply to: Gothmog

This is especially true in the meat processing industry. In the early 1990's a person could make a good living cutting meat, not anymore. Tons of illegal workers.

posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 10:44 PM

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: Gothmog

Tons of illegal workers.

I like them them.

There's a wall that needs building.


posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 11:30 PM
a reply to: seasonal


They also said the stock market would crash if he was even elected.

Just plain old bullsh!t.

Get them out.

All of them at once.

posted on Dec, 10 2016 @ 12:05 AM
a reply to: seasonal

The big companies have been abusing the H1B visa system. It is almost 100x more people that it was designed to allow. We have seen threads here about companies forcing their American wokers to train their own replacements of foreign workers or they wouldn't get their severance pay. Of course they would be freaking out and trying to stop Trump. Trump just said today that it would be American workers first. I suspect that if there is an American available for the job that companies must hire them first or face the consequence. The H1B visa program was to hire highly educated people that they couldn't find American workers for. It warped into replacing American workers after a few years and no one addressed the issue for whatever reason.

Trump is going to address this issue as well as the illegal worker. The seasonal workers get temporary visas to work in the US. Part of the revolt this election is just that. People complaining about illegals taking the jobs are not the jobs like in agriculture. Those can get temporary work visas. It is illegals and H1B visas taking other jobs that keep Americans qualified from a job.

Companies like Disney, AT&T, etc. have learned that they can import foreign workers on H1B visas and they will work for a much lower wage. Not only that, but they are less likely to be a problem if they want to abuse the worker. Americans know the laws here well. I say too friggin bad for these industry whiners! The people know what they are up to and it has been reported on many times. I think lobbyists, especially those backing the globalist plan to bring Americans (and the West) wages down and put us in a position to allow certain laws and changes because we are out of work to be passed. Well we are on to the scam and not going to allow them to dictate the agenda to us in our own country. The sheep are waking up thanks to the internet. Now the sheep are not awake enough. The whole dumbing down of America to create a docile and compliant voter group is working well. The docile part is being effected with the snowflake/cupcake culture in the schools of America as we stand.

It is everyone's job here in the US (Dem, Rep, or any other group) to awaken people and get the word out about saving our country and independence from globalist and corporate control. This does not mean we need to disengage from global markets. They would have you believe that to be a part of the new globalist market that you must give up sovereignty and country to open borders and giving away of rights. Not true. Don't be fooled and it all starts by taking up resistance to anyone, including these companies/corporations that want it so.

They are all profit margin and investors. American wages and laws currently eat into that. That is why they want massive immigration and open borders. Then you can't compete with the workers that have been working in their countries for $3 a day. Without borders you can't keep your industry here. They will move where regulations are almost nonexistent.

Smell the coffee now so you can smell the roses later!

posted on Dec, 10 2016 @ 12:15 AM
Hey, if you deport the 12 million to 20 million undocumented Mexicans back to Mexico, all that means is that all those corporations that depend on their labor will have to move to Mexico to get their work done.

That means, all the "managers" in these corps, who are most likely American Citizens, will be out of a job.

So, to deport the undocumented is to kill the job market.

Americans will not work for the wages that the undocumented accept, and American Businesses will not pay a higher wage for that type of work.

The Businesses move with the low wage workers.

posted on Dec, 10 2016 @ 12:58 AM
a reply to: AMPTAH

Not! This is a multi-trillion dollar market for one. Illegals will not be working here anymore soon.Companies hiring them will be fined like nobody's business. The ones who come for temporary agricultural or other work can get temporary visas. The companies are already coming back. Also, they won't follow illegal workers because the main market American manufacturers sell to is Americans and Europeans. There will be a 35% tax on imports from manufacturers that move out of the US.The wages wage difference won't cover that.

If you think that, maybe you can go to work for the government as a trade negotiator.

But...but...the wages...

You think for one minute Trump, his team, and the billionaire industrialist that is heading the manufacturing council didn't already know about that?

ETA: Besides they are concentrating on illegals with a criminal record besides being illegal for starters. Also putting a 5 year prison sentence on for someone deported that comes back in. It will be stiffer the next time. I don't think most will come back. And their is an estimated 11 million here. Not all Mexicans as you term the illegals. So how they are going to deport 12-20 million is a little exaggerated.

edit on 10/12/16 by spirit_horse because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 10 2016 @ 10:19 PM
a reply to: AMPTAH

How are they going to mobe all the restaurants to Mexico? Is everybody expected to drive to Mexico to eat out? Construction? Gardners and landscapers? I would wager these jobs account for far more than half of illegal work in the USA.

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