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Why God created evil; or, The Bible in a paragraph

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 01:16 AM
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Nah, everyone gets a choice.





posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Nah, everyone gets a choice.



That is the illusion we are stuck With. If the Bible is a book of truths. YOur future is alreadu written. In other Words Your Choice is already known.

It is mentioned in revelations that God have put it in Your/Our harts to make his Word come true.
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 02:39 AM
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Is Your Future Predestined? Awake!—2009

Anyway, I was making a comment to give some additional information about the connections between the yin-yang philosophy, dualism (as a requirement for a particular desired balance), Babylonian religious philosophies and "Babylon the Great", the term mentioned in the bible to describe something that is present today and has been present for thousands of years (some people here confusingly use terms such as NWO or "The Matrix" when sensing aspects of Babylon the Great or the symbolic beast she is riding as described in the book of Revelation, a dual structure or hierarchy of what the bible also collectively refers to as "this system of things", one representing political dominion or rulership and military power, the other the religious aspects of this system of things with a focus on the spiritual and the phrase "spiritistic practices", with which I'm not referring to the exact same subject, don't confuse or conflate spiritual with spiritistic).

Revelation 18:23:

No light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of a bridegroom and of a bride will ever be heard in you again; for your merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, and by your spiritistic practices all the nations were misled.

Gods and Goddesses: Insight, Volume 1

Deities of Medo-Persia. The indications are that the kings of the Medo-Persian Empire were Zoroastrians. While it cannot be proved or disproved that Cyrus the Great adhered to the teachings of Zoroaster, from the time of Darius I the inscriptions of the monarchs repeatedly refer to Ahura Mazda, the principal deity of Zoroastrianism. Darius I referred to Ahura Mazda as the creator of heaven, earth, and man, and he looked to this god as the one who had bestowed upon him wisdom, physical skillfulness, and the kingdom.

A characteristic feature of Zoroastrianism is dualism, that is, the belief in two independent divine beings, one good and the other evil. Ahura Mazda was viewed as the creator of all good things, whereas Angra Mainyu was regarded as the creator of all that is evil. It was thought that the latter could bring about earthquakes, storms, disease, and death as well as stir up unrest and war. Lesser spirits were believed to assist these two gods in carrying out their functions.

The symbol of the god Ahura Mazda was much like the representation of the Assyrian Asshur, namely, a winged circle, from which, at times, a bearded man with the vertical tail of a bird emerges.

Ahura Mazda may have figured in a triad. This is suggested by the fact that Artaxerxes Mnemon invoked the protection of Ahura Mazda, Anahita (a goddess of water and of fertility), and Mithra (a god of light), and he attributed his reconstruction of the Hall of Columns at Susa to the grace of these three deities.

A number of scholars have linked Anahita with the Babylonian Ishtar. Observes E. O. James in his book The Cult of the Mother-Goddess (1959, p. 94): “She was worshipped as ‘the Great Goddess whose name is Lady’, the ‘all-powerful immaculate one’, purifying ‘the seed of males and the womb and the milk of females’. . . . She was, in fact, the Iranian counterpart of the Syrian Anat, the Babylonian Inanna-Ishtar, the Hittite goddess of Comana, and the Greek Aphrodite.”


Ancient Babylonian religious concepts and practices are found in religions worldwide

“Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion . . . The strong admixture of Semitic elements both in early Greek mythology and in Grecian cults is now so generally admitted by scholars as to require no further comment. These Semitic elements are to a large extent more specifically Babylonian.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (Boston, 1898), M. Jastrow, Jr., pp. 699, 700.

Their gods: There were triads of gods, and among their divinities were those representing various forces of nature and ones that exercised special influence in certain activities of mankind. (Babylonian and Assyrian Religion, Norman, Okla.; 1963, S. H. Hooke, pp. 14-40) “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato’s] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

Use of images:...

Belief regarding death:...

Position of the priesthood:...

Practice of astrology, divination, magic, and sorcery: Historian A. H. Sayce writes: “[In] the religion of ancient Babylonia . . . every object and force of nature was supposed to have its zi or spirit, who could be controlled by the magical exorcisms of the Shaman, or sorcerer-priest.” (The History of Nations, New York, 1928, Vol. I, p. 96) “The Chaldeans [Babylonians] made great progress in the study of astronomy through an effort to discover the future in the stars. This art we call ‘astrology.’”—The Dawn of Civilization and Life in the Ancient East (Chicago, 1938), R. M. Engberg, p. 230.

Source: Babylon the Great: Reasoning

Btw, Satan does not balance things out nicely nor is he working on God's behalve as a requirement for this concept of a desired balance. The bible after all also claims that he will be removed from the picture (without applying the whole eternal torture Babylonian misrepresentation and Pagan philosophy, the bible teaches that he will simply cease to exist and that the dead are conscious of nothing at all, the dead can't be tortured in literal hellfire; perhaps I shouldn't have skipped the "Belief regarding death" part in the article above but it's rather limited anyway and a little too off-topic perhaps).

Perhaps I should leave a reminder that the Medo-Persian empire took over the Babylonian empire and their major cities like Babylon, before anyone gets the impression that my entire comment is off-topic from the dualism (as a requirement for a particular desired balance) expressed in the OP.

I always like to play on the phrase "all roads lead to Rome" and change it to "all spiritual roads lead to Babylon" but I'm afraid I might be exaggerating a little if I do that. Still managed to mention it now without claiming it's a fact or a 100% accurate representation of a reality.
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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 04:44 AM
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edit: behalve = behalf

addition:

Under Cyrus and the subsequent Persian king Darius the Great, Babylon became the capital city of the 9th Satrapy (Babylonia in the south and Athura in the north), as well as a center of learning and scientific advancement. In Achaemenid Persia, the ancient Babylonian arts of astronomy and mathematics were revitalized, and Babylonian scholars completed maps of constellations. The city became the administrative capital of the Persian Empire and remained prominent for over two centuries.

Source: wikipedia (the page for Babylon)
So this information also further demonstrates that the Zoroastrianistic (man, what a word) version of dualism does trace its popularization, marketing and spreading throughout the territories that have influenced human philosophy about spiritual subjects throughout the world from that general area back to Babylon as a center of religious propaganda. And that the BBC website in claiming about Zoroastrianism that it's "one of the world's oldest monotheistic religions" is teaching just one more myth/false story, or misleading piece of information about history. As per the program that Satan has advertized for everyone to get confused about with a myriad of different contradicting philosophies creating strife and applying 'divide and conquer' and obscure the road that leads to the truth about reality and God.]

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posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 04:52 AM
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Freewill keeps the good guys in Heaven, and all the Assholes in Hell.



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: brokenghost
Freewill keeps the good guys in Heaven, and all the Assholes in Hell.



You didnt think much about Your answer did you......



posted on Dec, 27 2016 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: LucidWarrior
Because it concerns enlightenment and only mentions religion as a comparison i post it here.

Corruption requires Purity to have proceded it, a flaw implies flawlesness. This is duality, because each requires the other and implies it. However, when corruption exists, there uniquely exists the idea of perfection: when corruption overcomes itself(not escaped or freed of, which would be purity) it is corruption that is only by the most technical term, as it is good. Perfection is defined as acting against and/or in spite of imperfection. Which means it is attainable to us as imperfect beings, rather than purity which would require our destruction along with the rest of iniquity. Purification is deadly to corruption, and is in fact inferior to Perfection, because corruption is able to infect purity, but can only ever fall from perfection back into corruption. This is what christianity is all about, the walk of imperfect beings into perfection. What sane human doesn't want to be able to be a good person? The religious aspect is not needed, because we know how easily it itself becomes corrupted. 'jesus' is the state of perfection, which is why he is the only begotten son and why we all need Him. 'Satan' is the state of Corruption, which is apart from, and against purity, or 'The Father'. Which is why the OT Law is so harsh for requiring our eternal torment, but justified, and why the NT God is so drastically different. Jesus set the standard higher than purity and made it available to us.


gnosticism.

if you make a fine cake and give it to someone,
it s that one's free will to go throw with it.
So far your ' creating evil'.

second
you - nor anyone - can never "reach state of perfection" :
thats gnostic drivel.
This state
is but possible by loosing all of the "I"
that develish concept blueprinted in everyone of us

totally and utterly different as the yoga or buddhist drivel -
who but reshape their develish "I" :
but never can loose it.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Nah, everyone gets a choice.



That is the illusion we are stuck With. If the Bible is a book of truths. YOur future is alreadu written. In other Words Your Choice is already known.

It is mentioned in revelations that God have put it in Your/Our harts to make his Word come true.


that is a cosmic level of creepy right there.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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People need something to blame for the cards they are dealt, or how bad they play them. Thing is some of those who say they are enlightened might as well accept it is what is, and understand they must have the will or gain the karma to improve those cards while the game shift in an out their control.

Perfection...an ugly word.
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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Nah, everyone gets a choice.



That is the illusion we are stuck With. If the Bible is a book of truths. YOur future is alreadu written. In other Words Your Choice is already known.

It is mentioned in revelations that God have put it in Your/Our harts to make his Word come true.


If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross. I mean if you happen to manage to survive crossing a 4 lane highway blindfolded with High speed cars on both directions, I guess that means you did some good in a past life or so.


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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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Yup ...plowing deep

Love it...and you guys are good......yes the Scripture straight forward has the words God created evil....

So, should all the posts be about .....He did it to teach us......

We are babes in the spirit world no....the spirit realm.....and still not quite walking.....? IDK...
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edit on 8-1-2017 by GBP/JPY because: Love yas

edit on 8-1-2017 by GBP/JPY because: Hey there bub



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.


You will have many options in your lifetime, but dont confuse options With the Choice you make.


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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.
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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.


Yes it is creepy if you think about it. We are all like actors in a Movie With a script and all, that has a predetermined ending.

Our timeline is straight forward line to the ending.

If the Bible is true the ending is not going to be much good for the moste of us.




edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.


Yes it is creepy if you think about it. We are all like actors in a Movie that has a predetermined ending.

Our timeline is straight forward line to the ending.

If the Bible is true the ending is not going to be much good for the moste of us.





and the holy fuhrer can spend the rest of his miserable existence stewing over the fact that over 90% of his children chose damnation over retiring to his vacation home in the great beyond. because apparently that was the choice he made for them...? actually creepy doesnt even begin to describe that situation.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: LucidWarrior
he is the only begotten son and why we all need Him.


you are quoting the gospel of john 3:16, but if you really read the bible you will find sons of god by the tons, if you read the bible very well you will find out that in the book of Romans 8:14 " For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God" so what does that tell you?
and regarding john 3:16 and the word begotten son was omitted, do you know what begotten means? imagine i say to a person that his children are my begotten sons, just imagine, i assure you that he will punch me in the face because it means that i had intercourse with his wife and she brought them, the word was omitted by and backed by 50 Christian denominations and called it an interpolation a concoction a fabrication and they threw it out of the bible



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.


Yes it is creepy if you think about it. We are all like actors in a Movie that has a predetermined ending.

Our timeline is straight forward line to the ending.

If the Bible is true the ending is not going to be much good for the moste of us.





and the holy fuhrer can spend the rest of his miserable existence stewing over the fact that over 90% of his children chose damnation over retiring to his vacation home in the great beyond. because apparently that was the choice he made for them...? actually creepy doesnt even begin to describe that situation.


Personally i think this makes religion and what ever faith we have a Waste of time.

Becasue we are wasting Our time With a book we dont grasp the content of. Probably because it is Lord Gods handy work. And 100% of the christians beleive Lord God is thee God and creator. But he is not.

He is a imposter and a evil substitute who demands sacrifice. And we think we have to make sacrifice because that is what Jesus did on the cross. But Jesus didnt really have Choice did he. It was already predetermined that this was going to happen to him. So he didnt really make a sacrifice. It is a illusion.

There is a way out of this. But we are way to far Down the rabit hole to get out of Our own trend.



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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.


Yes it is creepy if you think about it. We are all like actors in a Movie that has a predetermined ending.

Our timeline is straight forward line to the ending.

If the Bible is true the ending is not going to be much good for the moste of us.





and the holy fuhrer can spend the rest of his miserable existence stewing over the fact that over 90% of his children chose damnation over retiring to his vacation home in the great beyond. because apparently that was the choice he made for them...? actually creepy doesnt even begin to describe that situation.


Personally i think this makes religion and what ever faith we have a Waste of time.

Becasue we are wasting Our time With a book we dont grasp the content of. Probably because it is Lord Gods handy work. And 100% of the christians beleive Lord God is thee God and creator. But he is not.

He is a imposter and a evil substitute who demans sacrifice. And we think we have to make sacrifice because that is what Jesus did on the cross. But Jesus didnt really have Choice did he. It was already predermined that this was going to happen to him.

There is a way out of this. But we are way to far Down the rabit hole to get out of Our own trend.




the way out is to not worry about the afterlife. make the most of NOW for as long as you have NOW and the rest will come in its own time. and dont worry about life being unfair. if it makes you feel better, life is unfair to almost everyone and even the ones who have a smooth ride will go in the same size hole as the rest of us. and after enough years and enough holes, it stops being a thing. it starts being history. it starts being anthropology. it starts being archaeology. thats when the universe at large goes from not caring to...not caring.



posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Specimen




If that the case, why bother looking across the street when you cross.


I dont know if you thought much about Your question before you wrote it.

Just becasuse Your future is already predetermined does not mean you will survive walking blindfolded Accors the road.

By pre determined future means that the choices you make are already set. You can not make a different choice than the one you make. And you will make the right Choice according to the predetermined once set for you.

Your life is a timeline which is a straight line you can not diviate from.




again that is a cosmic level of creepy right there. we might as well start calling him the heavenly gestapo at that point. all hail the holy fuhrer who decides all races before the starting pistol has even been drawn. god created evil and it found a perfect home in the shadowy recesses of his authority.


Yes it is creepy if you think about it. We are all like actors in a Movie that has a predetermined ending.

Our timeline is straight forward line to the ending.

If the Bible is true the ending is not going to be much good for the moste of us.





and the holy fuhrer can spend the rest of his miserable existence stewing over the fact that over 90% of his children chose damnation over retiring to his vacation home in the great beyond. because apparently that was the choice he made for them...? actually creepy doesnt even begin to describe that situation.


Personally i think this makes religion and what ever faith we have a Waste of time.

Becasue we are wasting Our time With a book we dont grasp the content of. Probably because it is Lord Gods handy work. And 100% of the christians beleive Lord God is thee God and creator. But he is not.

He is a imposter and a evil substitute who demans sacrifice. And we think we have to make sacrifice because that is what Jesus did on the cross. But Jesus didnt really have Choice did he. It was already predermined that this was going to happen to him.

There is a way out of this. But we are way to far Down the rabit hole to get out of Our own trend.




the way out is to not worry about the afterlife. make the most of NOW for as long as you have NOW and the rest will come in its own time. and dont worry about life being unfair. if it makes you feel better, life is unfair to almost everyone and even the ones who have a smooth ride will go in the same size hole as the rest of us. and after enough years and enough holes, it stops being a thing. it starts being history. it starts being anthropology. it starts being archaeology. thats when the universe at large goes from not caring to...not caring.


We have to change the script we fallow today if we want to alter the future.

Today we dont fallow religion, we fallow something much worse and much more evil than that. Religion is just an illusion in all this.

Our social way of life is not built on religion, but by a world wide governmental institusion and controll ,religion is just a smal part of the illusion. Religion is just someting we do part time to Waste valuable time and spend Money.

No we should not worry about the after life, it is going to come to all of us no matter what we pray for. What matters is how we want to live and spend Our life before we die.

Life is what matter when we are alive, we shouldnt Waste Our time thinking about something we know nothing about. At least we shouldent make up stories about something we have no knowledge about.

If we want to change Our future, we have to change Our options so we can make different Choices.
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posted on Jan, 8 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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When you are performing God's Will, you are always cooperating with God in every aspect of life.


How can one know gods will when it changed its mind so many times in the Old Testament...do you wish the Bi Polar Jehovahs fickleness on the million's who do good every day?



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