a reply to: Ectospasm
Jesus is the "Prince of Peace" (promised at Isa. 9:6) that will restore peace to the world soon and taught Christians to be peaceable, etc.* (in loyal
service to his God Jehovah, who also happens to be his Father and the "God of Peace";
). *: checkout the different usages and subtleties in
meaning for the word "peace" and related words in the bible
. The “understanding heart is
one that searches for knowledge”; it is not satisfied with a mere superficial view but seeks to get the full picture. (Pr 15:14) Knowledge must
become ‘pleasant to one’s very soul’ if discernment is to safeguard one from perversion and deception.—Pr 2:10, 11; 18:15; see
. Understanding must be based on knowledge, and it works with knowledge, though
it is itself more than mere knowledge. The extent and worth of one’s understanding is measurably affected by the quantity and quality of one’s
knowledge. Knowledge is acquaintance with facts, and the greatest and most fundamental facts relate to God, his existence, his invincible purpose, his
ways. Understanding enables the person to relate the knowledge he acquires to God’s purpose and standards, and thereby he can assess or evaluate
such knowledge. Proverbs 1:1-6 shows that the “man of understanding is the one who acquires skillful direction, to understand a proverb and a
puzzling saying, the words of wise persons and their riddles.” These must not be things said merely to pass the time away in idle conversation, for
wise persons would not customarily waste time in such manner, but must refer to instruction, questions, and problems that discipline and train the
mind and heart in right principles, thereby equipping the learner for wise action in the future. (Compare Ps 49:3, 4.) Knowledge and understanding
together bring wisdom, which is “the prime thing,” the ability to bring a fund of knowledge and keen understanding to bear on problems with
successful results. (Pr 4:7) The person who is rightly motivated seeks understanding, not out of mere curiosity or to exalt himself, but for the very
purpose of acting in wisdom; ‘wisdom is before his face.’ (Pr 17:24; see WISDOM
is not like those in the apostle Paul’s day who assumed to be teachers of others but were “puffed up with pride, not understanding anything,”
unwisely letting themselves become “mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words,” things that produce disunity and a host of bad
At the time Jesus was talking about the subject you quoted from him though he was talking about another subject than what I just mentioned above when
I used the phrase "peace to the world" (he was using the word "peace" in a different manner with a slightly different meaning and referring to
something else specifically). Therefore he wasn't contradicting what I said at the start of this comment, he just used the word "peace" with a
different nuance of meaning (and timingwise, describing a present and ongoing effect in relation to the subject he was talking about in that chapter,
which the first responses in this thread have something to say about). Context is always key in
the bible. That's why I recommend clicking the link below to see what's
behind the ... that's indicating that I skipped something.
Prepared to Preach Despite Persecution | Life of
The message Jesus’ disciples preach will divide households, some family members accepting it and others not. “Do not think I came to bring peace
to the earth,” Jesus explains. Yes, it takes courage for a family member to embrace Bible truth. “Whoever has greater affection for father or
mother than for me is not worthy of me,” Jesus observes, “and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of
me.”—Matthew 10:34, 37.
Yet, some will receive his disciples favorably. He says: “Whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water to drink because he is a
disciple, I tell you truly, he will by no means lose his reward.”—Matthew 10:42.
Well-equipped with Jesus’ instructions, warnings, and encouragement, the apostles head out “through the territory from village to village,
declaring the good news and performing cures everywhere.”—Luke 9:6.
- Jesus provides what warnings for his disciples?
- What encouragement and comfort does he give them?
- Why do Jesus’ instructions also apply to us today?
Those questions also relate to the rest of the article. Here's some more to think about.
Highlights From the Book of Matthew:
10:34-38—Is the Scriptural message to be blamed for family rifts? Not at all.
Rather, rifts are caused by the position taken by unbelieving family members. They may choose to reject or oppose Christianity, bringing about
divisions in the family.—Luke 12:51-53.
Of course some people are not seeking for understanding, they much prefer to view the bible as contradicting itself and cherry-pick verses accordingly
followed by simply ignoring or talking past what the first 2 responses already indicated (already demonstrated by some posters in this thread), which
were nice and succinct, but allow for continuing to pretend or convince oneself that the bible is contradicting itself or isn't entire clear on this
broader subject of "peace", that it's open to interpretation and people deluding themselves with those and perhaps in some cases viewed as convenient
cop-outs; I hope my details demonstrate that the first 2 responses are not a cop-out or an insufficient answer* to the challenge of the preferred way
of seeing a contradiction or something that supposedly doesn't make enough sense, not clear, ambiguous). I hope I phrased that ending of that sentence
in an understandable manner. *: although TheSilverGate was talking about a different subject than Jesus was emphasizing there, Jesus was talking about
those who are closest to us, family members, whereas TheSilverGate tried to apply the verse to religious leaders, there are plenty of other verses
that address the behavioral phenomena of religious leaders, the one quoted in the OP is not one of them. DISRAELI's response was likewise a bit too
broad(or vague, not addressing the same specific subject that Jesus was addressing). So there are some issues with those answers, but they did get
these concepts right: division and rejection. In that sense, the answers are sufficient for understanding that the bible or Jesus is not contradicting
any of his other teachings or that the bible is vague/unclear about this subject of "peace", open and vulnerable to personal delusional
interpretation, "concerning and confusing", "intentional misleading statement?"(phrased rhetorically), etc. The paint job bible critics like to paint
on the bible and those who use it as their source for the truths/facts/certainties/realities that matter most.
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