ATS is no longer on the list of Russian propaganda outlets

So, you don't have a reasonable response.

As far as a certain thread being removed, a great effort was made by several mods as well as the owner explaining in detail why it was done. And I agree with that action.

If and when Federal and / or State Law Enforcement produce some factual information on this subject, you can bet there will be many threads of discussion.

Now, as far as the establishment that I know, its called the Constitution Of the United States of American.
If you got a problem with that........oh well.

Presently DJT is the president elect and if he is sworn in on 20 January, 2017 so be it.
If something different happens..............same answer.

IMPO I think some of you guys are just butthurt.

More than forty years ago I swore a oath and will continue to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

What you do, is your business.



Buck

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: 200Plus

That's total and complete bull#.

That's fake news!

So, folks....did you realize that you were all Russian Agents?

a reply to: IAMTAT

I wanted my "spy" name to be. . . Ivan Todrinkalot.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Aww, I miss the notoriety.

As do I, Comrade.

Na Zdorovie!

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


I'll give you a hint. Neither you nor me nor and14263 made the cut.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Those are extremely irresponsible attitudes. Innocent people are, and will, pay for the irresponsiblity, self-indulgence, weakness, and gullibility of armchair theorists.

a reply to: BlueMule

So we should "check our privilege" or simply have our opinions pre-approved before expressing them.

a reply to: DBCowboy

How about policing yourselves a bit more so you avoid groupthink. Force yourselves to spend more, MORE time outside your comfort zone, challenging your own beliefs, assumptions, etc. Save a compartment of your mind and put it outside your echo chamber; that can stand outside your web of theories and scoff at it. Pick it apart. For starters. Sheesh. You guys are really radicalizing yourselves. Do you know that?

originally posted by: Profusion
"Removed following constructive conversations with outlet operators: aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk, abovetopsecret.com, counterpunch.org, nutritionfacts.org, russia-direct.org"

I wonder if ATS operators were blindsided by the disclosure of said conversation?

It must have made Propornot feel pretty powerful to disclose that information. That annoys me.

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Well I guess the censorship of a certain topic all makes sense now.
ATS has sold its soul

Considering what this site is and who is considered "real news" we should have worn being on that list like a badge of honour

Nobody has defined "real news".

In fact I don't think anybody knows what "real news" is anymore.

a reply to: BlueMule

I'll continue to offer my opinion on any matter that I deem important. ATS is a forum and while they have rules and T&C's, they do not censor concepts.
They may have rules on how those concepts and opinions are portrayed, but I'll be double-damned if I have to get an opinion as to whether or not I should ever express an opinion.

Then goodbye ATS, I shall not be back, I have checked these forums almost everyday for years, partook in many debates but I think now, just like reddit, the credibility and integrity of the site has been lost. Even if ATS lays out what these talks were about, could we trust it now since it was not ATS that told us in the first place but a member noticing it on an external site... move to alternative sources, we all came here from somewhere originally and now to somewhere else we must return... a little deeper into the Web. Move to vab and goat Goodbye and good luck to you all but punish their treachery the only way we can, by hurting ad revenue and voting with your digital feet, I.E. by walking away.

Regards,
Eli23

a reply to: IAMTAT

This piece to Moon of Alabama is pure gold when it comes to Russian propaganda .Russia Today Plagiarizes Moon of Alabama - Which Is The "Russian Propaganda Outlet"? www.moonofalabama.org... You just cant make this stuff up .

originally posted by: BlueMule
a reply to: DBCowboy

How about policing yourselves a bit more so you avoid groupthink. Force yourselves to spend more, MORE time outside your comfort zone, challenging your own beliefs, assumptions, etc. Save a compartment of your mind and put it outside your echo chamber; that can stand outside your web of theories and scoff at it. Pick it apart. For starters. Sheesh. You guys are really radicalizing yourselves. Do you know that?

Sometimes better to be a little radical in thinking , rather than a brain-dead conformist

a reply to: BlueMule

You'd have to produce evidence of "group think" before making that claim.

originally posted by: Elijah23
Then goodbye ATS, I shall not be back, I have checked these forums almost everyday for years, partook in many debates but I think now, just like reddit, the credibility and integrity of the site has been lost. Even if ATS lays out what these talks were about, could we trust it now since it was not ATS that told us in the first place but a member noticing it on an external site... move to alternative sources, we all came here from somewhere originally and now to somewhere else we must return... a little deeper into the Web. Move to vab and goat

Goodbye and good luck to you all but punish their treachery the only way we can, by hurting ad revenue and voting with your digital feet, I.E. by walking away.

Regards,
Eli23

I'm standing BY my ATS...and will continue to push it's limits.
ATS needs it's 'free thinkers' and those who champion the First Amendment NOW...more than ever.

This place is special...and it deserves our support. It's been good to us...Don't abandon it.

The way I see it, the Russians may try to spread their propaganda here but that does not make this a Russian propaganda site, it makes this site a Russian propaganda target.

I'm so confused.

You guys were pissed when they put us on the list and now you're pissed that they took us off?

originally posted by: Darkmadness
a reply to: BlueMule

You'd have to produce evidence of "group think" before making that claim.

I totally understand what you are saying.

The problem with group think is that we are all guilty of it. If more than one person believes that the Emperor is dressed in mink, while others believe he is naked, they are both right, to their way of thinking.

Some will hold onto their beliefs until proven otherwise, while some will hold on to their beliefs until the court of public opinion has cast its vote. But rarely does any general thought about anything live in a vacuum. That is why people are so eager to share their thoughts and to validate them.

Personally, I have found greater knowledge and have altered my point of view, when information is shared by those that I don't believe or agree with. I may initially be miffed, but that usually leads me to researching to prove them wrong. It is usually in my quest for truth in response to my anger, were, if any, change of mind or heart will take place.

Shutting up the person that thinks or believes differently than you only leaves two camps participating in the own version of group think.