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Donald Trump: 'We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes'

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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 03:55 AM
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Donald Trump has laid out a US military policy that would avoid interventions in foreign conflicts and instead focus heavily on defeating the Islamic State militancy.

“We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn’t be involved with,” the president-elect said on Tuesday night in Fayetteville, near Fort Bragg military base in North Carolina.

“Instead our focus must be on defeating terrorism and destroying Isis, and we will.”

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Excuse me for possibly going overboard, but I feel like JFK's spirit may have been implanted into Donald Trump. I think this is finally an issue where everyone on this forum should be able to rally around Trump.

Why is it that only a Washington outsider could take this position? It's made me sick how America is the biggest warmongering country on the planet. So many Americans have dreamed of having a peace-loving POTUS. I almost feel like pinching myself because I can't believe this is real.

By the way, I believe Trump needs a popemobile.
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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 04:03 AM
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Personally, I believe we should wipe every member of ISIS off the face of the Earth.

Show ZERO mercy.

We should leave ME oligarchs and dictators alone. They may be crappy people but until we started messing with them there was relative stability in the region. That means leaving the Syrian regime the hell alone and help them destroy ISIS.

We haven't been cooperating with the international community on this issue. We've been dictating to them and expecting things to go our way.

Once we're done with that, it's time to step back and focus on internal issues for at least the next decade or so. Marching our war machine across the planet to take out 6th century ideologues hasn't worked and it has done nothing but make us less safe, and in many cases, a lot poorer.
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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 04:43 AM
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originally posted by: Profusion
Why is it that only a Washington outsider could take this position? It's made me sick how America is the biggest warmongering country on the planet.


Maybe because the past consensus in Washington was to uphold the pax americana with the force of arms?
Every threat to the U.S. economic hegemony was met with military aggression. Instead of fighting the underlying economic weaknesses of the U.S. - they fought the competition.
It will be interesting to see what Trump's alternative will be.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 04:55 AM
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Put Hillary in jail, or everything you say from now on is just pathetic lies.


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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 05:05 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Thank God!

I am so tired of these pointless wars. From Korea, to Viet Nam to Cuba and the Middle East we just need to STOP and concentrate on our own issues. I wasn't sold on Trump, but the man is putting the focus where it belongs and ending the BS.

I really hope that ideals are the only thing he and JFK share. If he keeps upsetting the warmongers and bankers their fates may intertwine.

The PTB are not going g to like this.
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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 05:20 AM
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originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: Profusion


originally posted by: Profusion
Why is it that only a Washington outsider could take this position? It's made me sick how America is the biggest warmongering country on the planet.


Maybe because the past consensus in Washington was to uphold the pax americana with the force of arms?
Every threat to the U.S. economic hegemony was met with military aggression. Instead of fighting the underlying economic weaknesses of the U.S. - they fought the competition.
It will be interesting to see what Trump's alternative will be.


"What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, and the kind that enables men and nations to grow, and to hope, and build a better life for their children -- not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women, not merely peace in our time but peace in all time." - John F. Kennedy
SOURCE

I hope that's Trump's alternative.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 05:29 AM
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a reply to: Now2016

Hillary will wont see a day of gaol time, nonsensical walls will never be built, and all those allegedly undocumented illegals will not be deported in the numbers Trump was preaching a few months back. Not to mention people of the Muslim persuasion will not be banned from entering into the US.

So there goes just about all and any of the guys election promises.

And its not like you cannot say you did not see it coming, the rich will get richer and everyone else will get the same or worse deal than they already have.

Its a beautiful day, hey hey, its a beautiful day.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 05:46 AM
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By the way, I believe Trump needs a popemobile.


That wouldn't deter those who killed Kennedy. And it wouldn't save Trump.
It would only marginalize their options, disallowing the old crazy white boy
with a gun routine.




Put Hillary in jail, or everything you say from now on is just pathetic lies.


Now there's a harsh indictment.
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posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 06:51 AM
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Im so filled with hope and optimism Im nearly quivering

I against my better judgement believe hes the real deal, maybe he wont be able to deliver on everything hes promised but I dont think it will be because he didnt try.

How many of you think if he does do good things hell be either suicided or assassinated?



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Personally, I believe we should wipe every member of ISIS off the face of the Earth.

Show ZERO mercy.

We should leave ME oligarchs and dictators alone. They may be crappy people but until we started messing with them there was relative stability in the region. That means leaving the Syrian regime the hell alone and help them destroy ISIS.

We haven't been cooperating with the international community on this issue. We've been dictating to them and expecting things to go our way.

Once we're done with that, it's time to step back and focus on internal issues for at least the next decade or so. Marching our war machine across the planet to take out 6th century ideologues hasn't worked and it has done nothing but make us less safe, and in many cases, a lot poorer.


Talk to Israel about Isis...they certainly have a hand in this...they love it



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 07:12 AM
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It is making the right people richer.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 07:14 AM
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If Trump does this he has my respect,and I had no respect before for him

Trouble is,can he do this?

I hope he can,and all that money that used to be spent on these regime changes can be used within Americas borders



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

agree 100%.

Looks like Trump is all about a light foreign footprint like he said he was.

Bernie people that voted for Trump should feel vindicated.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

Ahh yes, more blame the Jews crap.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Well that is a very "smart" way to phrase it.

Never mind the fact that IS is one of the most effective intervention tactics the west has ever developed or deployed in a region to which its MIC would like access. Never mind all that, defeating the paid proxy armies of the west is Donald Trump's priority...

In one statement, brushing aside the very real links between the US power structure and the enemy he wants to take on. Very "effective" speech.

Of course, its disingenuous, obfuscatory, and oxymoronic. Continuing military intervention against IS is continuing military intervention, no matter which way you cut it. But most people are going to gloss over that, because what Trump uttered sounds like what they wanted to hear, even though the outworking will be precisely the same. The military will be deployed to regions they have no business being in, drawn there by threats that the US government helped create by funding, training and equipping extremists under the guise of giving aid to "moderate" rebels, or by funneling funds through nations with which it ought not be doing business at all, like Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Nothing changes but the narrative which explains it.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 08:33 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it. Dubya Bush said similar things when he was running as a "compassionate conservative" in late 2000.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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Exactly. I don't think it's a coincidence that "ISIS" is also popping up in all of the typical hotspots, as well as many other countries either.

Most people know about them being in Iraq and Syria, but how many people know they're supposedly also in Libya, Nigeria & it's neighboring countries (Boko Haram calls itself "ISIS West"), Indonesia, and Somalia as well? They coincidentally showed up in Yemen after the Saudi-coalition started their war in Yemen and now ISIS is also in Afghanistan (surprise surprise). There are probably a lot more that I'm leaving out because these are just off the top of my head.

It's the same "War on Terror"; they just renamed the main bogeyman. And if ISIS disappeared overnight, they'd find another pretext to continue the same policies.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Its been done before, and this looks like more of the same to me.

I wonder how it will be spun, and how long people will swallow the spin for?



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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When we have career politicians that we know and we are familiar with, we tend to know what they will do next and the policies that they will follow, with Trump is different, he may surprise many, in a good and a bad way depending which side you lean too.

He is for now unpredictable because he is not a career politician, people feel more comfortable with the same old same.

But Trump makes people nervous because they can not tell what he will do next.

And the thing is that he is not even in office yet.



posted on Dec, 7 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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15 years of non stop war has created a massive debt for the tax payers to pay and it hasn`t made the country significantly safer.
sometimes I think that if we had used all that money we spent on 15 years of war to secure our borders we would now have a virtual fortress that no terrorist or anyone else could penetrate,and we would still have all of our rights and freedoms.
The story we have been sold is that the reason for 15 years of war is to capture or kill terrorists but if we had spent 15 years and trillions of dollars securing our borders it wouldn`t matter what terrorist are doing on the other side of the world because they wouldn`t be able to enter the country anyway.

with trillions of dollars we could have hired enough F.B.I. agents to track down every lead on every suspected terrorist in the country, we could have hired enough inspectors and bought enough technology to inspect every package that enters the country,we could have built a wall, or two walls or as many walls as we needed,we could have rounded up and deported everyone who is here illegally including people who have overstayed their visa`s and prevented people from entering illegally.
We would have no need for a "patriot act" that infringes on our rights and freedoms,we could have done all these things with the trillions of dollars we spent on 15 years of war and still had money left over to repair our deteriorating infrastructure.
most importantly we would be safer now.

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