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You can be fined $250,000 for not calling people ‘ze’ or ‘hir,’ pronouns if they demand

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posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: loam

So a single violation can get you a $125k bill.


I doubt it.


The amount of a civil penalty will be guided by the following factors, among others:


The existence of previous or subsequent violations;




posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

No.

It's $125k for any violation. You can get up to $250k for the harassment variety.




edit on 5-12-2016 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: omniEther

This is a direct assault on free speech. This is thought policing. A government cannot demand that we call people what they want to be called.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
This is a direct assault on free speech. This is thought policing. A government cannot demand that we call people what they want to be called.


Then don't. Just call them 'Dear Tenant', or 'Dear Wage Slave'.

Nice and generic and non suable. Have fun with them. Enjoy the moment. Breath.

'Dear Person I Am Over Charging For Rent...' Inhale. Hold. Exhale. Ahhhhhhh.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

...guided not controlled. So in other words, that rule allows it. Doubt all you want.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I won't. destroying the supple English language for the sake of someone else's desire doesn't sound like fun to me.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

a reply to: kaylaluv



originally posted by: loam


Incidentally, stop quoting or replying to me without making the appropriate edit.

It's MASTER loam to you. (Link.)




edit on 5-12-2016 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
I won't. destroying the supple English language for the sake of someone else's desire doesn't sound like fun to me.


Then just call them 'John' or 'Biff' or 'Sarah'.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

No. Pro-nouns are needed where proper nouns will not suffice.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
No. Pro-nouns are needed where proper nouns will not suffice.


I could get through my career without using 'he' or 'she' and just using people's names.

I found in the professional world saying 'they', or 'he' or 'she' ends up being too vague anyway.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You're more lenient than I.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
You're more lenient than I.


No, it's just easier, and clearer.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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Not sure if it is used in the US but in the UK we have a saying "She is the cat's mother'

It basically means you don't use pronouns when the person is present as it is considered rude.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
You're more lenient than I.


No, it's just easier, and clearer.


Not to mention more pernicious and tyrannical.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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not that itll ever come up in my life but i refuse to do this #.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Morrad

Not sure if it is used in the US but in the UK we have a saying "She is the cat's mother'


I tend to employ that tact.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Not to mention more pernicious and tyrannical.


Calling someone by their given name is pernicious and tyrannical?



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Not to mention more pernicious and tyrannical.


Calling someone by their given name is pernicious and tyrannical?


No, that is lazy and ugly. Self-censorship due to fear of reprisal is pernicious and tyrannical.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Kinda.. If you're being threatened and forced to do it..



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
No, that is lazy and ugly.


So when you are speaking to someone on a professional level do you use their name or just call them 'Hey you'?

I tend, when making presentations or managing direct reports, to address them by their name. It helps to reinforce the conversation and make a direct connection with whom I am speaking.




edit on 5-12-2016 by AugustusMasonicus because: Zazz 2020!




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