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You can be fined $250,000 for not calling people ‘ze’ or ‘hir,’ pronouns if they demand

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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Not only the name, but their title and chosen pronouns. That right would be the fundemntal right of free expression.
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Not only the name, but their title and chosen pronouns. That right would be the fundemntal right of free expression.


Oh, the horror! Civilization is doomed!

Or you could just call them Bill.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 10:59 AM
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At my job, people are including their preferred pronouns in their email signatures so that others know what to call them. We have one person who does not use capital letters for his name and uses "they" and "them" instead of him, etc. I get nervous when I talk to him because I'm scared I will slip up and be like, hey dude! and set them off. wtf?



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: omniEther

Never gonna happen, he or she. That's it. They have the right to ask for any personal pronoun they want, but that doesn't obligate me to use it in any way.
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus




Oh, the horror! Civilization is doomed!

Or you could just call them Bill.


Free speech is the basis of a free society, and the right upon which all other rights are built.

You will call them whatever they want you to, or else you will be fined.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
You will call them whatever they want you to, or else you will be fined.


No, you do not have to.

If they say call me 'Hir John Bigboote' I can just call that person 'John' and not run afoul of some bizzaro request.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Not according to the law:

"The NYCHRL requires employers to use an [employee’s, tenant’s, customer’s, or client’s] preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification."



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

That is if you use a pronoun or title. You can still legally address someone by their legal name only.






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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus




That is if you use a pronoun or title. You can still legally address someone by their legal name only.


It explicitly says 'preferred name'.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

I would pay to watch you ask someone if they have a penis or a vagina! XD



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It explicitly says 'preferred name'.


So what? If someone wants their name to be Howdy Frickin Doody then call them that.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:18 PM
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So what? If someone wants their name to be Howdy Frickin Doody then call them that.


Make me.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Make me.


Move here.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

What if I was raised by my dear grandma who bakes cookies and tells me to have a bit of decency and common courtesy, and to say "yes sir" and "yes mam" when being polite.

Should I tell granny to # off as those terms are somehow now offensive to snowflakes.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: omniEther
What if I was raised by my dear grandma who bakes cookies and tells me to have a bit of decency and common courtesy, and to say "yes sir" and "yes mam" when being polite.


Because 'Yes Bill' is so much harder?



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus




Move here.


I would be an idiot to move to a place where they can dictate what I have to say.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
I would be an idiot to move to a place where they can dictate what I have to say.


Awww. And here I was thinking that all your concern for our Constitutional rights was because there was a tiny little American in you yearning to break free.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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Awww. And here I was thinking that all your concern for our Constitutional rights was because there was a tiny little American in you yearning to break free.


There is, trust me. I love America and the experiment it represents. Good thing New York state isn't America.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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Just call me King James and I'll call them ze and oh hell what was the other one? Ze doesn't even pass spellheck..



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 05:32 PM
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