FBI Directing Facebook and Reddit to Spike 'FAKE' News?

No one gives 100% REAL news. it's taking away our freedom of speech. People can argue burning a flag but independents can't observe and report? Even when it PizzaGate went on it wasn't "NEWS" but a theory. Next comes a total man on ATS and anyway we have to crack the codes of mystery and free open mind.

CNN gives bad news.. Fox gives bad news.. why? Different opinions..different funding.

These whistleblowers is what keeps us safe. People like Alex Jones who blew up Bohemian Grove. It's strange how for 8 years we accused our government of killing thousands, implanting Sadam and terrorist, Satanist and how Bush was codenamed Molech.. it goes on and on during Bush campaign YET when say our government's are sick ass pedophiles they get REALLY UPTIGHT and shuts us down every turn. That's fueling the fire. They even had BIG DOCUMENTARIES DEBUNKING and books debunking... we wouldn't be so quickly to jump the gun of this conspiracy if didn't have so much allegations and convictions already. People just see "pizza owner victim" but it's mainly focused on Clinton/Podesta.

It's ironic Kathy O'Brien who during old days was pizzagate whistle blower but we could discuss it. Y'know.. one said Bush and Clinton's ran a Lucifer child sex ring.

33 missing children caught by Hatian police, Hillary loves this place. Monica Peterson? Bill and Hill got married here. Admittedly love Voodoo, and Hillary claimed body possession.

Connection to Aliester Crowley who known Luciferian head honcho let's demons control him and murdered and had sex with 100s of boys.

Two have been convicted, Jeff Epstein and Anthony Weiner one for porn, other for trafficking?

Podesta has weird pedo art in his house and toys in his room? News and Debunks say she has other art, and she does, but it's not art in his home is it?

This is probable cause. If you're in group or rode child sex plane you should be arrested and questioned and fact been on plane like 5 different times, stayed on the island... If it was you or me they would, why do they get a freepass?

Bill not only obviously a ladies man but has 20 something people of all ages claiming he raped them.

Not all true probably but still... there's a breadcrumb trail and maybe were evil people for pursuing it. This wasn't skunk news...or "fake news" then. It was actually A LOT WORSE and much crazier things were discussed.

Not trying start a pizza gate troll on you OP, just hard mention it because that's what's silencing our rights to freespeech.

People forget main discussion was private investigation on the Podesta brothers in Portugal when a 3 year old went missing. When police investigated area a known pedophile lives .5 of mile from girls home but says he's innocent because was out of Country. That Podesta brothers were staying there. Police sketches showed simular pictures of Podesta brothers. Really scary fact? Most kidnappings are within mile radius of victims home. Sure enough we continued to play private eye and someone discovered Podesta brothers DID travel there and were there. Flight records, passports.. it's very small world. All we pray is for FBI and police look into it.

THEN... it got shut down. I see we have a right to know this stuff! Can't shut it down. We need ATS and Reddit..

a reply to: Shr00mz


screw reddit, they are censoring as well. voat is where the investigation now is

Thank you much for sharing this article as the topic needs to be alerted and talked of more. Pretty sure, as by an earlier article thread that I had shared, the DOD is funding this.

No one is calling for censure they are calling for honesty. Fake news is by nature a lie designed to mislead people. Yes people are responsible for what they believe but when presented with a lie that is being touted as truth the misleading stories are the problem not the person who is believing it. That person has placed an element of trust in journalism because mostly it is credible. Historically we can trust the content of media whether it's a news paper or magazine or the news on CNN. We've trusted these venues to keep us informed and the need for honesty in journalism has got to be a priority.
No one gains from a fake news story. And honestly not everyone will have the ability to discern the truth from fiction because not everybody is smart enough. Simple fact...there are people who will be targeted because they lack the intelligence to know the difference.
Fake news doesn't help those people either and they should be protected because they just can't tell the difference.

Oh really? So... who is it that decides who gets to decide what is "fake news" what isn't?

I am absolutely flabbergasted how gullible and devoid some Americans are of the capacity to engage just a wee bit of critical thought.

We are in big BIG trouble... the 1st Amendment looks like it's DOA at the hands of those "protecting" us from "fake news".

Unbelievable

I have a suspicion that Facebook has an ability to post comments on stories from people, without their knowledge.

If the person (without knowledge) looks at the story and comments, they don't see the post they ''apparently'' made.

FAKE NEWS seemed to pop up immediately after the election, to me its preparation for something coming out that they can label ''fake news'' so it loses any traction.

I haven't made my mind up on #pizzagate.. I feel there's enough there to atleast look into it. I am concerned how many people on various forums simply reply

'' Its fake news ''
or
'' This is garbage ''
or
" this was proved fake ''

yet, none of these comments ever reply.

Somethings happened... our media and news outlets have practically been hijacked!

a reply to: loam
Now that alex jones is deleting this stuff off his site as well, it makes me wonder if the FBI is already all over the case and they need this stuff to go away to keep the criminals from making it harder to nail them for their actions.

That's my positive spin on it....

My negative spin is that the FBI is compromised by pizzagate as well and they will all do anything to shut this stuff down.

a reply to: Dfairlite


This makes the theory all the more plausible, regardless.

From what I can gather, this Pizza Gate thing was some sort of conspiracy theory / fake news and it was being used to slander a lot of people, including the owner of the pizza company. It has been investigated and there was no truth to the story.

Why are people supporting legitimately fake news and even promoting it? Someone manipulating people with fake news in order to harm someone else's reputation, or even to gain money (one "fake news" CEO who was interviewed said he did it for the advertising revenue) should at least have their news flagged as possibly fake.

On ATS, we are here to deny ignorance and we put hoaxes in the hoax bin and that isn't violating first amendment rights. Fake news is being used as harassment these days, and that is not all right by any means - and I don't see why people would want to be influenced by news that is fake.

It is in our best interest to know when news stories are fake.

I really should stop commenting on these threads with this subject matter.

It just blows my mind that people think it makes sense to label things fake and therefore censor it.

To my knowledge, no one has produced Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth, so I'd really like to understand how proponents of this anti-fake view intend to achieve their aims?

You people deserve the cage you are building for yourselves.

a reply to: darkbake

You need to take a look at the evidence, rather than "gather info" from the MSM about what it is and isn't.

There are waaaay too many coincidences for it to be nothing, but that doesn't mean it is what everyone thinks it is.

That's all I'm going to say to prevent thread drift. The info is out there, look it up yourself.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Your right this is very worrying. The way events are unfolding is leading to a type of censorship facism in which your oponents are not allowed to critisie the status quo.

Really do not how people are seeing this as a good thing. Trying to pass laws in the UK where evertime you upload a photo you have to declare the right to have copyright ownership over it. They got the Snooping bill too..

Trends have been taken down or manipulated, google edits its searches, the list of 100 fake news channes..how long before they are blocked entirely. Entire threads removed. Very few places left you can actually talk about this. Even alt news is barley talking about this. Exposure to the public has been removed.
and the media white wash of the event as fake new

How long before your on an esoterical terrorist list just because of your reading habits on the internet.

a reply to: angeldoll

On the other hand, those of us who aren't complete gullible idiots have a responsibility to try and help those who are

"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too."

Voltair in other words..

I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

originally posted by: Pyle
"Fake news" as in news that has no facts behind it. "Fake news" or news that is false made to scam people into giving ad money by clicking links or to push dis-info to persuade people.

You mean like almost every rightwing blog that has a PayPal donation button ?

I think he means all the ad revenue from CNN... you know the biggest purveyor of fake news out there.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

If the article is correct in its characterization, it is worrisome given our political climate.

One thing I haven't clearly understood about the left's perspective on this is if they think 'fake' news must be stopped...and they also think Trump is an authoritarian...why hasn't it occurred to them that what they wish for may eventually come back to bite them in the ass?

Am I the only one baffled by this?

Many are baffled, some just either don't want to admit it or simply remain silent due to fear.

Better get used to the New World Order. We knew it was coming long before this began happening. The only real question was how they were gonna pull it off. Now we know.

Unless someone can concoct a plan to counter their propaganda I don't see how we can escape enslavement. The system is powerful, and now we are witnessing them use that power and on us.

a reply to: loam


They cant its illegal, and violates the first amendment, if someone thinks its fake they should sue.

originally posted by: loam
(Please note, THIS IS NOT A PIZZAGATE THREAD. While the article is about PizzaGate and yesterday's gunman, this thread is about a federal agency's response to the publication of subject matter it does not want published. In other words, the real subject intended for this thread is a First Amendment one. Please limit your comments to that. Thanks.)

The following article ends with a very curious sentence:

“What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories comes with consequences. I hope that those involved in fanning these flames will take a moment to contemplate what happened here today, and stop promoting these falsehoods right away,” owner James Alefantis said in a statement today.

The retired general selected by US President-elect Donald Trump as his National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, was one of several senior Republicans who circulated the story on social media.

The FBI and police have since instructed the completely unsubstantiated story be removed from sites such as Facebook and Reddit.

Link.

That's a curious assertion that I haven't seen published anywhere else yet.

So if the FBI is 'instructing' Facebook and Reddit to remove any mention of pizzagate, is that just really a request or something else? Maybe this is sloppy journalism?

Thoughts?

One thing is for sure, the whole 'FAKE' news debate is really changing how our country thinks about the First Amendment, wouldn't you agree?

This is extraordinary.

As is the timing of the hatching of the fake news talking point / meme driven by the MSM. That was interesting.

Then we have this part time actor dude with a rich father who owns a charitable foundation, go marching into (that restaurant) and basically acting out a drama yet seemingly assured that it could be done without getting killed in the process.

Then up goes the fake news across the MSM echoed a 3rd time to the nth degree, and then out marches Hillary Clinton with a speech about it, also citing the "fake news" meme as something that's putting people's lives at risk on the basis of nothing but unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo.

It smells to high heaven, imho, the whole thing including the reaction/response.

Which makes me suspicious of Trump when he keeps saying that he has no interest or desire in mounting a new investigation (although he never says anything about the ongoing one..).

Something's up, and it runs straight through the MSM and websites like Twitter and Reddit, and Facebook and Google, but they can't shut out the voice of the entire Internet, they can't muzzle the people, or stop us in our freedom of expression and the right to free speech, which is supposed to be enshrined in the Constitution, and where mounting public opinion demands it, certain things just simply cannot be tolerated or hushed up or be permitted to take place, or there's no Justice, and no reigns of Justice that are authentic if certain people are above the law and are shielded from investigation.

I'm very disappointed with the MSM and with Hillary Clinton, John Podesta and his brother Tony, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama.

These are strange times when web censorship is taking place under the guise of "fake news" and I tell you, that gunman was acting out a drama, assured in his safety and perhaps the opportunity to bigger and better things after he gets out of jail.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

So help me God if Trump or his administration or the head of the FBI do not investigate this and give the Washington pedo ring a pass then there's no Justice in the world.

Trump's no idiot. He knows.

How creepy, if they are willing to go to such cunning lengths so as to void scrutiny and escape investigation, and then the FBI does this in response.

Which part of the FBI took this action? That would be interesting to know ie: if it's from a certain faction who would be prepared to cover for the Clinton network and others who could be implicated in the process of a real and necessary investigation.

If I read Trump right, and I sure hope I do, he's talking about not going after Hillary directly or personally, but what's he to do if she ends up in a dragnet, that's not his business or concern and neither was it a personal vendetta.

If something's going on, and it sure looks like it is, then for the love of God and people and children, it simply MUST be properly and thoroughly investigated.

The Wiener computer - what's on it?! That's still in custody. Just because she didn't violate laws of classified intelligence doesn't mean there isn't anything on it of an incriminating nature.

This is the FBI's greatest test I think.

I hope they redeem themselves from the days of the Anthrax investigation. That was terrible.

a reply to: loam

PSYOPS on PSYOPS

What does everyone think the official 911 story was.....real news? truthful news?

Its not so much our leaders are smarter than the masses as it is the masses are just so dumb

a reply to: AnkhMorpork


I don't think it was Wieners computer I think it was Hillarys the one she lost? most likely being looked after by her bosom friend who's name begins with A. That's why we are going through all this. The guy with the most shares in the Washington Post and New York times, is a best buddy of B and H and a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation, he also a person of great interest to the DEA. vwww.telesurtv.net...

Already happening..