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because the father (if we wants to) should have some sort of say in the matter,
I don't think science has come far enough in the consciousness realm to make any definitive statements.
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
You say I have valid points in one breath and in the other it's poor excuse for reasoning.. wtf
If it's conscious...
...then it's alive.
“It is hard for me [to say] exactly the percentage of reduction of the brain, since we did not use software to measure its volume. But visually, it is more than a 50 to 75 per cent reduction,” says Lionel Feuillet, a neurologist at the Mediterranean University in Marseille, France.
originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: seasonal
Suppose you have a seed. Let's say, it is a large seed, an avocado seed that has some substance. Is that seed alive or dead while it is still in the avocado and perhaps even when unripened on the tree?
Pro-Choice is such arrogance. Nazism at its finest.
But, regardless, I'm not trying to spell out the perfect system for doing so--that's for litigious or legislative people more appropriately suited to the task.
Abortions defined as using instrument or medication with the intent to terminate a pregnancy (other than birth, to preserve a the baby’s live or remove dead fetus) are legal in South Carolina only under the following three circumstances:
In the first trimester with the pregnant woman’s consent
In the second trimester with the pregnant woman’s consent in a certified hospital or clinic
In the third trimester when necessary to preserve the life or health of the pregnant woman on the written recommendation of two doctors, and if the basis is mental health then both the two doctors and a consulting psychiatrist must agree in writing the abortion is necessary
Note this law says the husband’s consent is required in the third trimester, but spousal consent was found unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1976 and that can’t be enforced
originally posted by: JesusXst
a reply to: Lucid Lunacy
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figgure out whether the unborn fetus or baby, is alive and conscious. It's human, it has nerve endings muscles etc. Not even a doctor could ever convince me otherwise.