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Virginia high school banned “To Kill a Mockingbird” “Adventures of Huckleberry Finn”

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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

been through it pages back
he does not seem to understand what a temp ban is and that the discussion is to see if it will stay banned

a temp ban is a ban...i dont get what is so hard




posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: JanAmosComenius




Yes, they were "allowed". And notions like Annees were ... ridiculled. Left, right ... somebody is dictating what you can read or not. Humans puke in this situation globally. Annee is syndrom of human nature.

So we shouldn't allow Annee to have her opinion?
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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I think the people running that school might be a little nuts. I think the people who are structuring this society might need some medications to stop their obsession with things. If you remove the evidence from history nobody will be able to see that there was a problem in our past. How can you change something if you do not have evidence to show it once was a problem. People thought differently back years ago and not all of it was right, but I see more wrong going on in society swinging the other way now than in some of the things back then.

Look at the wide swings in this country, the use of alcohol is a good example. Swinging to extremes is not good, it creates polarization and disrupts society. I see people revolting against any mention of racial slur in the problem and that is worse than keeping things in balance. This wide swinging and the polarization it creates between people is not wise, moderation is the best thing and just try to watch your mouth. Everybody deserves respect based on their honesty and integrity, not their color or by how rich or prestigious they are. I know some professors I do not respect while others I know I respect. It is based on the way they are, not on how many years they are teaching and how good they are at indoctrinating the kids.

There are good and bad people everywhere, in every field of work, in every city and state. It does not matter what class they are in. Christianity tries to tell people this, but we have gotten misled and twisted up into beliefs that are far from being good community neighbors. We have personal rights and we need to respect others personal rights. We need to concentrate on not creating chaos and driving people apart. Teach your young this so they do not grow up wrong.

This is my personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the site. See, I know how to use disclamers too



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis




I think we have much to worry about from the right as well - now:


Good. Now apply those standards to everyone instead of picking and choosing.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Advantage

I agree. Once we start justifying a ban here, a ban there, then we've lost.



And if that started.. Id make an underground railroad for books of ALL kinds ( manga, bibles, korans, comic books, religious tracts, pornographic lit, you name it.. ALL) , authors, and free thinkers. Im also dead serious.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:14 PM
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For sure kids needs save space, but TAHF? Underage protagonist is smoking cigars looted from abandoned steamboat! It is pure, it is shining and to be clear it is my dream. This is pure pleasure for boys imagination.

To be correct, it is direct hit to masculinity.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: Advantage

People often imagine "1984" as becoming a reality.

"Fahrenheit 451" seems to be the case as well.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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This is pure insanity. To Kill a Mockingbird is a classic about the dangers of racism and a white man's fight to overcome it. Maybe they want to ban it because it shows what REAL racism was like back in the day, compared to the childish nonsense that gets passed off as "racism" today. MLK must be rolling over in his grave.

Does anyone else remember when liberals were the ones fighting against book burning and against "the man" meddling in every aspect of our lives and against being told what you can or can't do/say? They've become everything they used to hate.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Advantage

People often imagine "1984" as becoming a reality.

"Fahrenheit 451" seems to be the case as well.



And if we dont keep those books available to people, those phrases will become unknown. Same with history or books that plainly illustrate our history even with the N word. It MUST be kept available, but not required. Im not bragging and dont mean to toot my horn.. I swear.. but I DO have a library in my house. It was previously used as a psychomanteum. House was built by spiritualists that started the first spiritualist "church" in the area. ANYWAY.. I left the big mirror, but the rest of the room I had shelves built from floor to ceiling with books of ALL kinds and eras. I have a few in a glass door case that are more precious. Im old, Ive accumulated a LOT. and I share. Kids that are friends of my kids come over, have a question or whatever.. and they get loaned a book. LOL! Ive literally hunted people down to retrieve a book Ive loaned that they havent returned. LOL! My youngest uses the mirror to dance to or with her karaoke machine.. and has been raised to love books. Now she is obsessed with creepypasta!
Im seriously obsessed with books....



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Advantage

Despite my irritating signature (
) I am a bibliophile as well. My library may not be as extensive as yours, but It's one I'm constantly adding to.



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Advantage

Despite my irritating signature (
) I am a bibliophile as well. My library may not be as extensive as yours, but It's one I'm constantly adding to.



Add to it for the rest of your life.. as often as possible. From every source you can. Its important. Then pick out what relative will carry on your work when you croak. I did that too. LOL!



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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saying a quote ..

but its truth in the USMC...


"I am hard, but I am fair! There is no racial bigotry here! I do not look down on 'n-word's, kikes, wops, or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless!"
— Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Full Metal Jacket



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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Good? So, you admit that the contemporary right has a problem with censorship as well?

There's a reason's why I used the words - as well:


What abject nonsense. Imagine some puritan right-winger determining which words were innappropriate or not. We don't let left-wing puritans censor books for the very same reason.

Why do you see this as a left leaning issue? Questioning books used by schools has also been a problem for the right. Show us some evidence. Or, are you willing to just assume to make your point?


The left has a long history of censorship, and it would do well to remember that. If we are sick of these bans being associated with our politics, then it might be best to fight them.

Who is it that made this story about politics?


I am well aware of the Puritanism of the right, and we can go back In time to face them together. But now, it isn't the right we have to worry about...yet.

We can't exactly use you as an example of fair and balanced on this topic. Or can we? I think when our next right leaning President of the United States says :

Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!

It's a little more noteworthy than a mother and a school board trying to have a friendly and very public discussion about the curriculum in her son's school

Maybe that's why this story about books is as big as it is in the first place?

:-)
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Advantage

People often imagine "1984" as becoming a reality.

"Fahrenheit 451" seems to be the case as well.



Both excellent books BTW. I really enjoyed 451, so did my 13 year old daughter.


Once 1984 reality is complete, 451 will begin in full swing.

Scouts Out



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Advantage

Despite my irritating signature (
) I am a bibliophile as well. My library may not be as extensive as yours, but It's one I'm constantly adding to.



Add to it for the rest of your life.. as often as possible. From every source you can. Its important. Then pick out what relative will carry on your work when you croak. I did that too. LOL!


I actually never thought about doing this, but I very well may start. I know for a fact my oldest daughter would love to do this, and then continue the project once I am gone. Heck she already has her own personal library in her room, might as well make it a fun experience for her while also providing a safe guard to literary works.

Scouts Out



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis


Good? So, you admit that the contemporary right has a problem with censorship as well?

I haven't seen anything censored by the right for quite some time. I'm open to examples.


Why do you see this as a left leaning issue? Questioning books used by schools has also been a problem for the right. Show us some evidence. Or, are you willing to just assume to make your point?


Because I see it occuring from the left more than I do the right.


Who is it that made this story about politics?


I don't really understand the question, but I believe it was George Orwell who criticized it more than anyone else in those days. He predicted political correctness and the assault on free speech by the ctrl-left.


It's a little more noteworthy than a mother and a school board trying to have a friendly and very public discussion about the curriculum in her son's school


You're talking about a tweet.

Do you or do you not support the banning of books?



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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This would be the Right.

Religious extremists get trans kid Jazz Jennings’ book “I Am Jazz” BANNED!

lexiecannes.com...



posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope




You're talking about a tweet.

From our next president




Do you or do you not support the banning of books?

What a ridiculous question. And funny you should ask

I'll just let you read through my posts - if you're actually interested

Do you or do you not agree that society should be free to question authority, custom, culture, law and established rules?



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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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My god::

its Apart of American History ...

all I see its a Progress Change for the Better ,,

The Book To Kill a Mocking Bird is Based on that TIME era !

Where Racial Clashes and Segregation - Jim Crow - Laws in the South
was Still Around ..

The Kid need to get Over it !


I wasn't Having a Fit of My mixed heritage ..

when My High School Sport Name was Called :: Red Raiders !!

and the head of a PLAIN's Indian Head Dress was Our LOGO!

and Were Iroquois Mohawk! LOL


ok ok ... Did the Mohawks Raid ! yes they sure did... back in the 17th and 18th Centuries
trying to drive the Whites Out of Their Territory! , When The French and British Tried to invade .. and Settle in
its remaining Land

being Red ... well some have a redish Tint LOL

I dont see its Offensive..

I dont see Irish Americans Protesting The Notre Dame Symbol Either
Nor Danish Americans of the Vikings !


( about that Logo )
Using Native Americans as a Symbol: Disrespect or Honor?
napoleonsnook.blogspot.com...
napoleonsnook.blogspot.com...


This Kid is going to far ... Whining

is the School, going to try to Erase its Southern Dark History

is it going to make Laws making it a Criminal Action presenting the OL South ways in History
like what Germany had Done .. with its past of NAZI Germany??
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posted on Dec, 6 2016 @ 01:35 PM
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The American Conservative - - - In Defense of Censorship




Prachi Gupta reports at Salon that Neil Gaiman’s Neverwhere may be removed from the shelves at a New Mexico high school:

Gaiman’s fantasy book, based on his BBC television series, follows a London man who explores a magical world beneath the streets of London with a girl named Door. Although the school has been teaching “Neverwhere” since 2004, Nancy Wilmott complained about a sex scene and use of profanity.

“I reviewed the language personally. I can see where it could be considered offensive,” said Superintendent George Straface, who is reviewing Wilmott’s complaint. “The F-word is used. There is a description of a sexual encounter that is pretty descriptive, and it’s between a married man and a single woman. Although kids can probably see that on TV anytime they want, we are a public school using taxpayer dollars.

“On that basis, we have decided to temporarily remove the book until we can review it with our panels and make a decision,” he said. www.theamericanconservative.com...



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