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I love Trump, One Phone call makes China ---- itself

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posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: mahatche
Why is doing everything in his power to piss off china a good thing?

Is it the job of the president to intentionally try to piss off other countries?

"man I love how our president is making enemies" how is this logical?


what did Trump do to try to piss off someone?
he answered a call from the President of Taiwan.
The fact that he's talking to foreign leaders before he's sworn in could be a marker for how he deals with international issues.
More talking seems like a good idea..


Not when it breaks federal law. He can of course talk to that leader but it would violate the Logan Act if he were to discuss any policies with him. He by law has to wait until he's President to do that.



It's a "HER" not a him.

You should be a lawyer.





posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Willtell
When China sh__s it can sh__ out nuclear bombs, just keep that in mind.


Are you suggesting China would nuke us over what China perceives as a bad trade deal? That's actually pretty funny.


China would never nuke the USA.

Destroying the enemy is not the Chinese way.

China believes in absorption. They will consume the US.

They consumed Tibet, they consumed Hong Kong, and will consume Taiwan.

They are already on a massive program consuming everything the west has produced, right down to building entire towns modeled on western towns, houses, streets, plants, trees, dogs, cats and flowers.

They don't want to destroy these things, but to copy, and multiply, and increase.



On a more serious note,
China can not win a war against the U.S. and China knows this, therefore China will not start a war it can not win.


China will win the war against the US. It's not going to be a nuclear war. A simple conventional war, of soldier against soldier. They will overrun the US military by shear excess numbers of soldiers. Think an army of ants verses a few spiders.

The US is preparing for a "high tech" fight. China will invade with a very "low tech" army. The shear numbers will overwhelm the US, and all the "high tech" will become useless.

They are coming to put the US citizens to work for them, to pay back the debt owed.

The Chinese do not have a concept of "debt forgiveness". That's a western concept.

When a Chinese person owes money, if he doesn't pay the debt, his children inherit the debt, if they don't pay, the grand children inherit the debt, etc..some future descendant is expected to repay the debt. Debt is considered a generational obligation. It must be paid.

Now, what Donald Trump intends to do is to "restructure the debt" with China. He is accustomed to not paying back debt. He says its a "useful tool" in business. He's hired "the king of bankruptcy" for the commerce secretary..etc.. From the cabinet Trump is putting together, you can see the plans.

He's going to approach China the same way he approached Casino Business in New Jersey. Tell the creditors that we can't pay the full amount, and the money owed must be cut.

Now there is something that China wants. They want the transfer of high tech knowhow. So, it is possible to cut a deal with china, by transferring this knowhow to them, in exchange for debt reduction.

However, the US won't want to do this. Donald Trump will stall, and drag out the process, hoping to wear them down. But, Chinese people are very patient. Meanwhile they are building up their conventional army.

They invade in Washington State, with a large number of ships. The first high tech business they capture is MICROSOFT.

Then they work their way down the coast and capture Silicon Valley.

Then they start the long march East to New York and Washington D.C. This will take a few years.

They are not in a hurry.

The US is always in a hurry, because corporate reports come out quarterly, and politician terms come up every 2 years or 4 years for re-elections etc...so the Americans are always rushing to the next time point, which is just a few months away. China takes the long view.

The Chinese also have a different view of the concept of "enemy". The great Mongol Genghis Khan conquered china, or thought he did. But, actually, he didn't, China simply "absorbed" the Mongols, and Genghis Khan is now a "Chinese Hero"...and so it goes...absorption.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

LMFAO, what? Terrible movie, don't quit your daytime job.

They have to first GET TO THE US and I assume the massive "number" of chinese troops will run...all the way across the pacific...on water, on foot.

Hypothetical scenario:


Thanks, I appreciate the chuckle.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: Stevemagegod
I love Trump, One Phone call makes China ---- itself

Perhaps that grin of glee will turn into a grimace of pain as one of China's hypersonic missiles is burrowing it's way up your poop-shoot!
Just sayin...
*__-



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:55 AM
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originally posted by: Christosterone


Ask ur parents who undoubtedly pay ur insurance about it...



Actually no its not.

Trump has already back tracked.

Now he is only replaceing parts if it.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: [

I'd also point out that a lot of hysterical people have matter-of-factly asserted (and continue to) that had Clinton been elected, we'd have been facing imminent war with Russia.


Only hillary has herself to blame for that.

She should of ditched her arsine talk of syria no fly zones.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:55 AM
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So, what we've come to is the equivalent of some petty high school friendship circle?

"Oh! You can't talk to them." We don't have anything to do with them anymore. I'm so disgusted that you even spoke to them."

I have to say, if I was a leader of sorts, I would talk to whomever I wished, whenever I wished it.
Repercussions be damned.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 05:21 AM
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Why should the President of the United States of America not call Taiwan and recognize its independence from China?


Because it undoes thirty years of diplomacy with a major nuclear power and threatens a general Pacific Rim war. Are you seriously okay with the President starting a World War because he wants to build an hotel in Taiwan?



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 05:35 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
Because it undoes thirty years of diplomacy with a major nuclear power and threatens a general Pacific Rim war. Are you seriously okay with the President starting a World War because he wants to build an hotel in Taiwan?


All that over a phone call?

And despite 30 years of US arms deals with Taiwan?

China LOVES people like you.



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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 05:48 AM
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All that over a phone call?


It represents a loss of face, which is very important to the Chinese. Unless Trump apologizes, it will lead to diplomatic tensions, which might then escalate.




posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:00 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Except he didn't call anyone, he received the phone call.

It's like some of you aren't bright enough to get the facts straight but that never stopped a progressive liberal from lying now has it?

hosted.ap.org...

Carry on Dip%*^&JW0001 China loves your type, the type that is controlled, reigned in, docile.




posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:13 AM
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Except he didn't call anyone, he received the phone call.


The phone call was pre-arranged, according to the original source. It is not clear who initiated the arrangement:

Original Taiwanese source.

Trump loves gullible idiots who believe everything he tweets. That's what got him elected.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

While the importance of face is an important cultural characteristic in China, the Chinese government is far more practical than you give them credit for.

They are not going to war over a phone call...or several phone calls for that matter.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: loam

I didn't say they would... but they will try to discern the new administrations agenda. Trump's belligerence and scapegoating of China does not bode well for cis-Pacific affairs.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Look, the people whose cage Trump really rattled on this phone call was the Financial Times, who broke this story because they HATE Trump and endorsed Hillary. They support the globalist agenda (because their readership is from that pool) and see Trump as an existential threat to their view of the world.

This is just noise- mostly of our making....not China's.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:45 AM
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BEIJING, Dec. 3 (Xinhua) -- China has lodged solemn representations with the United States, urging the latter to honor its commitment to the one-China policy, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said on Saturday.

Geng's remarks came after U.S. president-elect Donald Trump spoke over phone on Friday with Taiwan leader Tsai Ing-wen.

"It must be stated that, there is only one China and Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory, and the government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legitimate government that represents China. Those are all facts recognized by the international community," Geng said.

The one-China principle is the political foundation for the China-U.S. relations, Geng said.

"We urge relevant U.S. side to honor the commitment to the one-China policy as well as the three Sino-U.S. joint communiques, and cautiously and properly handle Taiwan-related issues to avoid any unnecessary disturbance to the bigger picture of the Sino-U.S. relations," the spokesperson said.


news.xinhuanet.com...



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:48 AM
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What else did you expect them to say?

I'm still in the resounding 'so what?' category.

They need us more than we need them.



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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: loam

What worries me is this is the sort of thing that happens when you skip intelligence briefings. That, and the still unresolved conflicts of interest.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

I asked in another thread but reading further here I have my answer, When you grow up and out of it get back to me or anyone else because it's no fun trying to have a conversation and debate with someone that has their head in the sand and constantly screaming the sky is falling.

Are you even an American to begin with? If so what State?



PS: China wants to claim South China Sea and threaten free trade shipping, surely warming up to Taiwan in public is a proper recourse, but I know it isn't in your version of Reality DIPW.
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:07 AM
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PS: China wants to claim South China Sea and threaten free trade shipping, surely warming up to Taiwan in public is a proper recourse


...which will be viewed as a provocation by the Chinese. It's bad enough that we sell arms to Taiwan, but to go back on the One China Policy would be a major mistake under the circumstances. There are undoubtedly secret protocols between the United States and Taiwan, which may be one reason why the PRC has been trying to absorb Taiwan peacefully, through economic investment.



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