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Opinion: USA Now a Hatchling Parliamentary Monarchy

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posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: suvorov

Are you located in the Continental United States of America?



Ye im in a Filthy city called new york




posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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Only now? So, I suddenly in the last four weeks became aware of all of this crap that's been going on for my entire life?

You really think that?

pleez



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs
He still has the power of appointment over Cabinet, which makes him a closer match for the Hanoverians than for the modern monarchy. The Georges could still do that (although George III had to be taken discreetly out of the loop for a time).
It won't really be "parliamentary" until Congress is able to say to him "Please appoint these people, because these are the ones we will work with".




edit on 3-12-2016 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You did frame your entire analysis around "post-election" and Trump the "royalty". Dont hate the player, hate the game!



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: DISRAELI


(although George III had to be taken discreetly out of the loop for a time).
It won't really be "parliamentary" until Congress is able to say to him "Please appoint these people, because these are the ones we will work with".


Totally agreed.

But see, we're already there. The sitting Congress has forced the Supreme Court replacement choice for EXACTLY THAT REASON. That seat should have been filled months ago - but the seats on the Supreme Court are the ultimate gavel-bangers. Who sits on the Supreme Court is the goalie.

If you don't like their decision, tough. But if you THINK you won't like their decisions, then don't answer their calls.

UNTIL THE SUPREME COURT is fully staffed, there is a war for control. Congress has already said "nominate someone we like, or we won't even address it."

"We'll wait until someone on our side gets to sit at your desk."



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What are you talking about?

I maintain that we are heading for a Monarchy. It isn't something to be flamed ---- it's a simple opinion.

You don't agree?

Fine! But first, calm yourself down. Then say so, and tell me why, without attacking me.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 12:55 PM
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holy hell. Another premature thread attempting to open up respectful dialogue when its still impossible because emotionality.

I'm out.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: mkultra11

The state enthroning corporations is National Socialism and you now have a re-incarnated Mussolini to run it.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Why not go to the movies instead?
Hillary the Movie



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

George Mason predicted the president would become an elected monarch, and he may have been right.

The difference between a parliamentary monarchy and the presidency is that the head of state is different than the head of government, but not in the US. Queen Elizabeth, for instance, has a prime minister to run the government.

So in a way, constitutional or parliamentary monarchies are better than the US system because the heads of government should not be revered like a monarch or president.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: mkultra11

The state enthroning corporations is National Socialism and you now have a re-incarnated Mussolini to run it.


A better description is corporate socialism, look it up. The other comment is not worthy of a response.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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Was just wandering around in the back of the house and found this gem:


It seems clear that Trump never really contemplated what it would actually mean to take the office of president. (Political journalists reported that closest allies weren't sure he wanted it, and during the campaign there was even speculation that he'd quit if he won, which Trump himself did not deny.)


From CNN www.cnn.com...

It's an opinion piece. (The OP is also an opinion piece, people!)

I have been saying for months ---- he didn't really think it through -- he never thought he'd win it, and he was probably going to walk away if he won. Which he still might. Because HILLARY. 2.5 MILLION. MORE. VOTES.

are going to say "D'oh!" as they watch him do his Donald. Like Forrest Gump. Needs supervision and instructions



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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And of course, as President-elect he is working within a framework for the next few weeks, which dovetails with the things he likes -- creating reality drama with his Cabinet picks (aka finalists!), planning for a big party in his honor (inauguration), announcing a theatrical first day in office and then imagining the fun headlines of his first 100 days in office when he'll get to do the fun stuff such as nominate a Supreme Court justice.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

That's just ludicrous. He campaigned very hard at the end sometimes three rallies a day in multiple states. Hillary on the other hand, a better argument that she thought it would it handed to her and she "deserved" to be president. She hardly campaigned at the end, instead focusing more on fundraising instead of connecting with states that Trump eventually won.

Even the popular vote argument is weak when you have CA and NY accounting for over 11 million votes alone.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: mkultra11

Take it up with the author.

Facts are by all indications that she did, indeed, win the POPULAR vote by 2 and a half MILLION VOTES. It isn't "ludicrous." It's real.

Now - if you want to say it's a lie, go and find hard evidence that it is a lie. Mkay?

The "electoral college" has not yet met and voted. None of this is as "done" a deal as the people think. I don't think it will be reversed. I do, however, think it is nowhere near a "done deal."

A Monarchy we shall become. Because King Midas has been swept into office by those who know no better and idolize him as a "Trump University Guru Gone Wild"......

yeah....

no.
It's not outrageous, nor is it anything but my opinion. Please do fact-check yourself. And if you can't find the back-up that you need, then concede that it is merely your opinion that it is "ludicrous."

I see no real reason to say it is ludicrous.
I have every educated reason to say we are headed that way.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: JesusXst

wrong on all counts, and shallow to boot.
You missed it entirely.

No. Trump is King Charles, who Congress rebelled against.

Trump is also King George who went mad during the American Revolution - in charge of a war but out of his mind. So his handlers took over.

Trump is Queen Elizabeth. He is a "monarch", a delusional ultra rich boss-man who is being humored, while Congress makes the real decisions.

He is a figurehead, and has no sway over the actual running of the country.


See? See how OFF BASE you were with your kneejerk poorly formed impulsive reactivity?

Yeah. Thanks for the example.

See ? See how much extreme ignorance you are showing ?



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

What? Please go back to the beginning OP. Read it. Then do some research into King Charles (1600s), King George (late 1700s) and the history of the current Royal Family: The Monarchy of England.

Please. Because you clearly have no clue what I'm talking about. Please do some looking up of these historical facts.
Thanks.

Because - being called "ignorant" by you is something up with which I will not put. You get that one for free.
Try again, and keep it classy.



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

WRONG , we are Still a Democratic Republic , I Guess you did not get the Memo . Imagination is a Wonderful Thing , but it Often Conflicts with Reality .



posted on Dec, 3 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Good Story though , you got an Agent ?
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