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originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: Voiceofthemajority
a reply to: carewemust
They also argue there is virtually no way to complete the process by Dec 13th and so to grant a recount would put Michigan's electoral votes at risk of being lost.
Something definitely wrong with this. A system that is supposed to allow for the possibility of recounts, that doesn't actually provide sufficient time to do that recount, if and when it is required, is designed broken from the start. It is as if no one wants to do that recount, because the elections are "fixed" before they are even run, and the election officials all know this, only the public is clueless.
originally posted by: BlueAjah
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Green Party drops statewide PA recount.
I don't believe that Stein is done with PA.
I think she is just changing the plot.
She is going to try going at this a different way.
There are some counties still recounting due to affidavits.
But I think that she still has some other trick up her sleeve.
A three-hour hearing in federal court in Detroit has ended on Green Party candidate Jill Stein's request for an immediate start to a presidential recount in Michigan, with a federal judge saying he will return to the bench later today to announce whether he will give a written or oral ruling.
U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith was asking skeptical questions Sunday about Green Party candidate Jill Stein's request to order the immediate start of a presidential recount in Michigan.
Also, state officials disclosed at the hearing that the state election results, showing Trump as the victor, have already been certified and Gov. Rick Snyder has already certified the Trump electors and sent that information to Washington, D.C. Denise Barton, an attorney reprresenting the Board of State Canvassers, said that means the "safe harbor" requirement that electors be certified six days prior to the electoral college meeting on Dec. 19, has already been satisfied.
Michigan's electoral votes are guaranteed to count, except in the unlikely event that a recount shows Trump did not win Michigan's 16 electoral votes, in which case another set of electors could be certified and sent to Congress, she said.
Brewer argued it was Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette who warned Michigan's electoral votes could be at risk if the recount is not completed by Dec. 13.
Mark Brewer, an attorney for Stein, told Goldsmith an unusually high under-count – ballots with no vote for president – of eight per precinct, is "sufficient to change the result" of the election, in which Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton in Michigan by 10,704 votes.
Until now, Stein has said she wasn't expecting to change results, but wanted to test the integrity of the system against possible mistakes or fraud.
Brewer's assertion that the outcome could change in Michigan caused Gary Gordon, who has represented Trump and the Michigan Republican Party, to question whether Brewer, a former chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, was acting for Stein or for Clinton.
""One interesting claim that Stein made in the video had to do with spoiled ballots and "racial bias." As she sees it, "if the ballot was cast by a person of color the odds are increased by 900% that that vote is going to get tossed.""