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Can you say what that reasonable question was? Thanks for all your insights.
originally posted by: infomaniachousewife
Really respectable scientists were showing an interest and they are represented by an all out unnecessary unprovoked war over a very simple and reasonable question posed by Isaac.
Glad to hear this and from the comments on this thread Isaac Koi has the overwhelming support of ATS members, including me also. I can't think of another source providing such a volume of detailed and unbiased, open-minded research, so to me an attack on Isaac Koi is an attack on ufology.
I want nothing to do with any of their politics, I am standing with Isaac and hope that he sees how much support he has and comes back to us.
So after reading Isaacs comment about the $75 charge do any of you think he should be castigated for it? I don't.
Isaac Koi is one of ours, one of us. If he wants to go to war with one of us, he better be prepared to go toe to toe with every single one of us.
originally posted by: Mclaneinc
Just a tat money making scheme, as for the vetting, I wonder how much of that is taken care of by the 75 dollars and boot licking of Mr Roe.
More elitist nonsense......The UFO community does not need this, sounds like a 2nd rate Greer wannabe setup...
Goodbye: I seem to have greatly annoyed Ted Roe about a month ago when I posted a brief comment on Facebook about his new IAUPR group [_FOOTNOTE 1_]. Without wanting to bother you all with the details, he has subsequently posted on various Facebook pages attacking my use of a pseudonym (referring to me as a "fictional entity" [_FOOTNOTE 2_],"it" [_FOOTNOTE 3_] and posting "Who the # is Isaac Koi and why won't he comply w the standards we do" [_FOOTNOTE 4_]). The relevant Facebook pages include his own page and the one at the link below [_FOOTNOTE 5_] (among others [_FOOTNOTE 6_]):
In the context of these posts on various Facebook pages, Ted Roe posted about "my guys" [_FOOTNOTE 7_] being at the CNES event I attended in Paris a couple of years ago (where I had the pleasure of meeting with Jacques Vallee, Richard Haines and various others - including quite a few members of the EuroUFO email List) and there being _"pics"_ [_FOOTNOTE 8_]. Since the relevant meeting was held on the basis that everyone was entitled to preserve their anonymity if they wished, I had expected that any photos that include me would not be made public - but it looks like I may have been too trusting.
Even more worryingly to me, given my concern not to have clients know about my interest in ufology in case this adversely affects my income, he has now posted today - after various people were kind enough to support me in the relevant discussion on Facebook (including Edoardo Russo [_FOOTNOTE 9_], Curt Collins [_FOOTNOTE 10_], Rich Hoffman [_FOOTNOTE 11_], Paul Dean [_FOOTNOTE 12_] and others [_FOOTNOTE 13_]) - called those supporting me "little butt sucking followers" [_FOOTNOTE 14_] and said "just watch how I make these malcontents famous anytime someone searches their name" [_FOOTNOTE 15_].
It appears to be implied - although not entirely clear - that Ted intends to cause my interest in ufology to appear in search results anytime someone searches my (real) name. Given that Ted knows people that have met me (with Ted repeatedly referring to Jacques Vallee in the relevant posts), he could be in a position to do this.
I'm not willing to take this risk.
I've been prepared to share resources freely with the UFO community for over a decade without asking anything in return, simply seeking to be allowed to participate using a pseudonym to avoid risking any potential damage to my career. The above issues suggest that I cannot do this.
This means that I now probably have to cease active participation in ufology - with effect from today. I am, frankly, rather upset about this.
It's been (mostly) fun, but any potential harm to my career is more important to me.
My wife would kill me if my association with ufology damaged my career. She already had a rather jaundiced view of my bothering to spend time on these issues.
Given Ted Roe's connections, I simply don't see any alternative.
All the best,
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: Sublimecraft
TBH I think Roe and his co-dependent Lukes are incredibly childish and this is just a UFOlogy war that erupts quite regularly in the field, Sadly for them they picked the wrong person to mess with.
Reading their posts is like reading a a high school fight over christ only knows what teenagers battle each other on.
Isaac should ignore them, but no one can tell him what to do.
originally posted by: IsaacKoi
......I've done this because Ted Roe has now said that he doesn't think I "have any integrity" and have lied. (He has also complained about the lack of support he is getting...).
Look, Ted Roe has won and I've left ufology - but his current nonsense is just rubbing salt into my wounds.
How can I make a monetary contribution to help NARCAP in its work?
or you can make a check out to: NARCAP/Ted Roe