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Trump picks "Mad Dog" Mattis for Secretary of Defense

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posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

What the terrible "warrior monk" crap? Maybe if he was a company officer that could be something to praise but not in a Flag Officer.




posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

He was a company officer.

He was an infantry company commander.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Annee

How so?

The purpose of the military is to kill people and break stuff.

We were never in the business of making people feel good.


The evolution of Peacekeepers -- out.

A return to the Aggressive Killer Mad Dogs.

Oh, I don't know why I'd think it is regression.



Because you think our military exists to enforce peace, when it is often used under guise to install central banks.

War is hello and I'd rather we be scared of unleashing it. The alternative is what we have today.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:38 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Yep and he retired Flag Officer.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:42 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

With tons of experience and expertise.

He has the respect of not just the Marine Corp, but every other branch. He's well trusted among the troops and for good reasons.

You and I will just have to agree to disagree on this one.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:46 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

He's well trusted among the troops and for good reasons.


What are those reasons?



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: Annee

He has a proven track record of caring for his Marines, pursuing and implementing policy to ensure his Marines had what they needed to do their jobs.

He was a staunch defender of his Marines. Strong leader and did not mince words. He didn't speak like a politician as most flag officers do, and ensured his Marines were informed, equipped, and trained to be deadly, fast, and victorious.

That's all a Marine or soldier needs when deployed. Stateside he stood up for his Marines by encouraging them, mentoring them in leadership skills, and defending them from the bile spewed against them.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

I didn't know much about him until recently. He seems to be highly respected. His quotes make him come across as a typical tough military guy. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not necessarily a good one either.


It's ironic that a General nicknamed "Mad Dog" changed Donald Trump's mind about the need for Water-Boarding. James Mattis told President-elect Trump:

""He said, 'I've never found it to be useful,'" Mr. Trump said, describing the general's view of torturing terrorism suspects. He added that Mr. Mattis found more value in building trust and rewarding cooperation with terror suspects: "'Give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and I'll do better.'" He added: "I was very impressed by that answer.""

Source: robhoey127.blogspot.com...



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:08 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Don't get me wrong he wasn't bad as a general and did a good job as one but I don't want retired generals going on to be in civilian military positions.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:10 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

Why?



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Fresh eyes for one. Having a person is who is with the President and not the military (which is why its a civilian position and not a military one.) is another.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:19 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: projectvxn

Fresh eyes for one. Having a person is who is with the President and not the military (which is why its a civilian position and not a military one.) is another.



Hes no loner enlisted, so Technically he is a civilian......

2. Id rather have a man that has been in the blood and guts of the battle field, who has bled beside men and women in uniform..Calling the shots and making the decision about putting those men and women into battle...

Rather than some civilian with a lot of degrees whose never set foot on a battle field, nor knows the cost on a personal level...

Your logic fails at all levels......



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:29 AM
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“4. Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they’re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact.”

I find it a highly ignorant thing to say. This guy believes some people hate the US because of freedom? No, people hate the US because they go to random countries and bomb the # out of them. There's a difference.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You are describing the jobs of the chief of staffs not the Sec def.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:38 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: projectvxn

Fresh eyes for one. Having a person is who is with the President and not the military (which is why its a civilian position and not a military one.) is another.



You know that is actually a fair point.

But the US Military has lost its warrior spirit in the last 8 years as a direct consequence of political religion being used to determine what the military should be.

Civilians aren't always up to the task. Leon Panetta and Chuck Hagel were some of the worst SecDefs to ever serve in that position. Forcing admin politics directly on troops while visiting us.

We are required to be politically neutral when in service, to have a politician preach their politics to us while in theater is something we all found egregious.

We wanted to know the future of the army and what we could expect over the next decade of our service. Instead we got preached to about gun control and Obamacare.



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:51 AM
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Trump says he's going to destroy ISIS.
Hires "Mad Dog" Mattis.
Goodbye ISIS



posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 01:54 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You are describing the jobs of the chief of staffs not the Sec def.



I see you're adept at completely missing the point or implementing willful ignorance thereof in order to maintain your position
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posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Led the massacre in Fallujah (killed everone in sight, used white phosphorous) and said that killing people is fun.

Not the right guy, imo.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 02:22 AM
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Killed insurgents in fallujah.

Killing those assholes is fun. They don't deserve to live.



I want Marines and Soldiers to be aggressive and willing to kill. To deny the enemy life and comfort of any kind. To keep them hungry and bleeding. That's how you win a war.

You're just mad that Mattis doesn't believe in picking turds up from the clean end.
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posted on Dec, 2 2016 @ 02:27 AM
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I love him already and would follow him into battle.



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