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Rural Democrats: Party Ignored Us

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posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 07:48 AM
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It even goes back to 2012 when Obama completley wrote off white working class voters. You reap what you sow


President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign will be the first in modern political history to abandon white working-class voters, strategists claim. For decades, Democrats have been losing more and more blue collar whites. Their alienation helped lead to the massive Republican wave in 2010, when the GOP wooed 30 percent more of them than the Democrats could.

Democratic strategists say President Obama is focusing his attention, instead, on poor black and Hispanic voters and educated white professionals.



CNN’s Jake Tapper squared off with White House Communications Director Jen Psaki and started off by asking her why President Obama would be doing into normally blue states like Pennsylvania and Michigan. Psaki said the president is just reminding people in important states what’s at stake in this election.

But given the kind of popularity Trump has amassed with many people, Tapper asked if part of it is due to a failure on the president’s part: “It’s quite obvious that white working class voters seem to feel abandoned, in large numbers, by Washington D.C. In any way do you see the fact that so many of them––this constituency that used to be a Democratic constituency so many years ago––the fact that they have turned away and they are looking towards Donald Trump, is that in any way a failure of President Obama and the Democratic party?”




posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule

Well, it's plain to see your self proclaimed exploration did little to improve your wisdom.

But like I said, keep posting, even if your comments are completely incoherent, all of it helps. Just not in the way you think.




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posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule

Rather than spew more hate and call people names, how about you take (factual) issue with anything I have stated in the OP. Don't just rant on about Trump, but rather point out something I have stated which is not factual or accurate.

My suspicion is you can't/won't do this, but I'll hold out hope.

You know, there is a thing called "constructive criticism". You might do well to take a moment and understand it.


(post by BlueMule removed for a manners violation)

posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: BlueMule
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

If You dumb rednecks think you've seen broken promises, just wait til trump is through with you.


Aren't the leftist's suppose to be against racism?

Redneck - is a derogatory term chiefly used for a rural poor white person of the Southern United States.

Oh that's right only racism towards white folk is acceptable these days, even here on ATS as we can see. You and other leftists that use this term should be ashamed of yourselves. I sure would be and would be disgusted by any Trump supporter that got on here throwing around the N word, which is basically its equivalent. Time to grow up man.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule

Hey! Play the ball, not the player, or get off the field.

Realistically speaking treating rural democrats as rednecks is about as helpful to left leaning politics as kicking puppies on live television is, so stow it. The DNC screwed up BIG TIME with their nomination of Hillary over Bernie, who actually had ideas that could have worked for everyone except the fundamentalist right, and if he had been allowed to campaign evenly, been treated fairly by the party and still lost, it would have been by a damned sight closer a margin. Chances are, he would have clinched it.

As it was, the DNC chose the least consistent nominee, over the most consistently pro-worker and anti-corporate politician that has run for president in the lifetimes of most of the people on this website.

That was a bad choice for the party, a bad choice for the city democrats, and a terrible choice for the rural democrats. Simply put, they betrayed the voter base, and that is why they lost.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:02 AM
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In Bernies voice:
"They only care about millionaires and billionaires."

Also, America simply had to be reminded what it means to have liberal rule for 8 years...
Obama nationalized healthcare and lessened our stature throughout the world...
Not to mention the tanking economy....hope and change indeed

-Chris


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posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: BlueMule
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I was born on the left coast, live on the east coat and have spent half my life living in several European countries. I speak more than one language, hold an advanced degree, and have run quite a few dominant national businesses.

I'm married to a liberal environmentalist, my best friend is a self proclaimed socialist, I have a catholic mother, I have a jewish father, I have a Muslim sister-in-law, I have an uncle who is a hasidic rabii, and I had another uncle who was the leader of the Communist party of a large European city.

Is that dumb redneck enough for you?


Keep posting. In fact, I hope they become the most popular on these boards.
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posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
The democrats lost because of the way the system is set up with an obsolete electoral college.


No, the democrats lost because they decided to ignore a large group of voters. If democrats want to be the party of inclusion, they should include ALL. They focused on minorities. Personally, I believe minorities need to have their voices heard, but not by excluding others.

Oddly enough, this election came down to "It's the economy, stupid!" The very same mantra that put Bill Clinton in the WH in 1992. Democrats ignored that. The economy needs to work for everyone or as close to everyone as possible. There are ways to do that without excluding blacks or whites or whatever group you want to name. Most of us want the same thing. An economy that makes us feel financially secure.

Democrats played the division game and lost. Putting people into little groups black, Hispanic, latino, gay, muslim. They should have said "We want an economy that works for ALL." Instead, they focused on minorities. The economy needs to work for the minorities and the majority BOTH.
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posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule

So, basically that means you can't and/or you won't debate the points.

That you have no argument, other than argument for the sake of argument alone.

Right?



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: Khaleesi

And you think Trump is out for the little guy as he has never even tried to conceal his protection and tax cuts for the very rich.

Bless your little heart. Good luck with that.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Khaleesi

And you think Trump is out for the little guy as he has never even tried to conceal his protection and tax cuts for the very rich.

Bless your little heart. Good luck with that.



I didn't say Trump was any better. The fact is, the voters decided to take a chance that he MIGHT do something that will help them.

For the record, I'm a southern gal born and bred. I know exactly what "Bless your heart" means. That condescending attitude is exactly why democrats lost.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:35 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

Will democrats never learn?


Perhaps the candidate herself answered the question, with a question of her own:


"Why are liberals the world over so politically hopeless?"

~Hillary R. Clinton, 2/12/12 W.L. i.d. #18954




posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule


You dumb rednecks

Considering I have gone by the name on ATS for almost ten years, used it as a CB handle for 8, and answered to it as easily as I answer to my given name for almost 40, I assume you are talking about me.

Can you grow a garden? Fix a car? Build a house? Fix a TV? Weld steel together? Set up a power grid? Make a makeshift heater? Understand a scientific paper? Write a scientific paper? Make your own fuel? I can... I have.

Do you hold a degree? I hold an AAS in Computer Technology, an AS in Engineering, a BS in Electrical Engineering, and am a year away from a MS in Control Theory and Communication. All came with the tag "Magna Cum Laude."

Can you survive in the woods alone? I have, for a week at a time. I liked it; it was a hobby.

Can you explain the nature of Cosmic Rays? Can you explain the various theories on gravitation? Can you define a complex number and explain it's contribution to a filter based on it's location in the LaPlace plane? And just after doing that, can you go fishing with nothing but a hook and string in your pocket, and finish up with a meal?

Right... didn't think so.

The(moronic)Redneck



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: BlueMule




when we mosey off our ranch to explore the wide open world


LMAO. You have no clue who you're talking to, do you?



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
The democrats lost because of the way the system is set up with an obsolete electoral college.


Keep lying to yourselves. You saw what that got you.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64

originally posted by: angeldoll
The democrats lost because of the way the system is set up with an obsolete electoral college.


Keep lying to yourselves. You saw what that got you.

I keep seeing those references to the electoral college as being obsolete and archaic.
Do these people look at the Senate in the same way?
It is the same principal that caused the founding fathers to create both.



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: BlueMule
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Well cowboy, one of the things we humans learn when we mosey off our ranch to explore the wide open world is that things can't be just boiled down to simple homespun wisdom about that mentality that the other has, but that we good simple rural folks don't.


Well, Mule, you are doing just what the Democrats did to lose the election. You are underestimating the rural "deplorables." You assume that you are more intelligent and sophisticated and just know better what is good for them and the rest of the country. You are completely clueless.
The Democrats used to be the party of the common man. Who do they represent now? Who pays the taxes? Did you ever hear of "taxation without representation?"



posted on Dec, 1 2016 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: LifeMode

Nor did I suggest rural areas are poor.



It's what the media suggests. Rural means "rednecks", less educated, less income which is not true. I live in a rural area and it does not fit that mold. Many rural areas do not fit that mold. Rural areas have more buying power. Nicer homes for less, better quality food, less taxes. A similar home to mine in a D.C. or New Jersey community would cost 5X more and not nearly as nice. I have more disposable income with lower taxes.



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