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Trump suggests jail, loss of citizenship for burning U.S. flag

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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: introvert

No opinion allowed except what you agree with?
Typical day at the forum...........


Where did I state that no opinions were allowed?




posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: introvert

Tweets are more like passing thoughts than ideals.


Or perhaps a medium in which his true thoughts are expressed.


...In 146 characters or less. Not even the most concise can express their thoughts with such a limit.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: oddnutz
It was a good idea when Hillary co sponsored the same law in the senate, but if Trump suggests it, bad Trump!


The Flag Protection Act of 2005 was a proposed United States federal law introduced by Senators Hillary Clinton and Robert Bennett. The law would have outlawed flag burning, and called for a punishment of one year in jail and a fine of $100,000.[1][2]


en.wikipedia.org...



Likely exactly why Trump tweeted that.

He is very good at stirring the pot with past Hillary actions that she can't dismiss.


More 4-d chess? The man is brilliant. He shines a light on flag-burning and the hypocrisy of certain voters all with a simple tweet.

You mean his own supporters who support this tweet?


Is that like a retweet? "Supporting a tweet" sounds stupid.

Oh great you are being coy and pretending like you don't know what I mean. I'll just ignore this statement and wait for a more serious response from you.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: luthier




Patreus having exposed classified info and admitted doing so isn't a good negotiator out in the world. Especially when he goes to Thailand.

So that bullet point has been eliminated from the job description for SOS?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: introvert

Tweets are more like passing thoughts than ideals.


Or perhaps a medium in which his true thoughts are expressed.


...In 146 characters or less. Not even the most concise can express their thoughts with such a limit.


And yet Trump was able to say so much with just one tweet.


Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!


How many characters did it take to express the idea that perhaps people should be jailed or lose their citizenship for burning a flag?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: introvert




The only thing he has shined a light on is his propensity for authoritarian ideals. Obey the state, pay homage to the flag...or else.

Is he not allowed to express his opinion?
Or is his opinion now law?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I SAID that people who want to punish people for desecrating the flag are analogous to the Muslims who want to punish people for desecrating Mohammad.

So people who have patriotic feelings are comparable to those who have religious beliefs.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Vasa Croe



I'm not a school teacher. Feel free to hone up on socialism and it's FULL meaning (not just your "economic" tunnel vision) in your free time.


I'm a socialist. I know quite a bit about socialism and it's many facets. That is why I am confused by your comments.



If you can't speak intelligently to the argument and only resort to insults then you are already losing.


How did I insult you? I made the statement that I believe you are talking out of your ass and I stand by that. I don't believe you know what you are talking about. It seems to me that you injected the "ultra-socialist" remarks to counter my comments about ultra-nationalism, but it doesn't have anything to do with the topic.


Again...not a school teacher.

And if you're a socialist then you know full well the political and societal implications of being such and exactly how they apply to the opposite side of the argument.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I SAID that people who want to punish people for desecrating the flag are analogous to the Muslims who want to punish people for desecrating Mohammad.

So people who have patriotic feelings are comparable to those who have religious beliefs.

WTF is with this strawman? Do people just fail at reading here? Or do you just not want to clearly read my words correctly?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

I hope so or we may evlove into a society that elects the Kardashians.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

"I SAID that people who want to punish people for desecrating the flag are analogous to the Muslims who want to punish people for desecrating Mohammad."

So you are saying that people who have patriotic feelings for their countries flags are the same as those who get offended by a drawing of Mohammed.

Is that correct?

Pretty big stretch of the imagination


edit on R172016-11-29T10:17:21-06:00k1711Vam by RickinVa because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: luthier

I thought we already did?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: introvert




The only thing he has shined a light on is his propensity for authoritarian ideals. Obey the state, pay homage to the flag...or else.

Is he not allowed to express his opinion?
Or is his opinion now law?


Yes, he is allowed. And we are allowed to criticize his opinion.

Trumps wants to jail those that exercise their free speech.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Damn it.

Oh well bring out the power aide.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: Krazysh0t

"I SAID that people who want to punish people for desecrating the flag are analogous to the Muslims who want to punish people for desecrating Mohammad."

So you are saying that people who have patriaotic feelings for their countries flags are the same as those who get offended by a drawing of Mohammed.

Is that correct?

NO! I called it a strawman. Do you not know what a strawman is?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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Just another day of 5D chess, I truly think he is worlds greatest troll.


wording in small, highlights are "Hillary Clinton" and "100k fine with 1 year in jail"
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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe



And if you're a socialist then you know full well the political and societal implications of being such and exactly how they apply to the opposite side of the argument.


So you don't know what you're talking about.

Got ya.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Have you ever been on one?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: 4N0M4LY

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
Jail and loss of citizenship, loss of whatever for burning or defacing a symbol of a thing?.

...Ok...And there are those who have issues with Muslims cutting off people's heads and tearing stuff up over insulting the Prophet Muhammad, or burning the Q'ran or whatever symbol the babies wanna be sensitive about on this or that day...

Grow the # up and realize your current president is a #ing idiot who wants to respond to trivialities the same way as those he claims to be against...

I don't usually call people idiots, but this # is just getting #ing ridiculous.

Don't be one.


Some here don't look at the US flag like a company logo...call me crazy but I find the fact that a LOT of people died to keep that flag from falling is something important to remember.

And our current POTUS is Obama...and yes he is everything you just described and then some.


Back in the 1920-1940's you would have been arrested for desecrating the flag. Times indeed have changed hahah and not always for the better.

You probably would have been labeled a Nazi sympathyzer in those times.


Well apparently I am already being labelled an ultra-nationalist because I care about what the US flag stands for.

It's all background noise to me really. I just hope these same feelings that the ultra-socialist lefties have now don't ever extend to those that actually defend our country, and by defend I mean die for it, not protest about it. If that happened we can all just wait for the super peaceful takeover by another country who just hasn't gone to sensitivity training yet.

I'm a veteran and I support the right to burn a flag. In fact I could care less what someone does to that piece of cloth. My idea of what America is and represents extends BEYOND a simple cloth. It's a nice stop gap representation but only a shallow person would put that much weight behind a symbol that they'd pursue legal actions against people who ruin it.

You sound like the crazy Muslims who will lynch you if you portray Mohammad in a bad light.


Yes...I am just one step away from a good lynching. /sarcasm

So if I have pride and respect for my country's symbol of freedom I am a radical now? Wow....just really wow.


Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never said you shouldn't respect the flag and I didn't say that people who did are radicals. I SAID that people who want to punish people for desecrating the flag are analogous to the Muslims who want to punish people for desecrating Mohammad. Reading comprehension. Give it a try sometime.


Oooo...a sarcasm burn....ouch my non-comprehending eyes.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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Burning the flag = one year of community service for the organization you are protesting FOR. If you feel strongly enough about an issue to burn the physical symbol of our country, then you can work for that issue for a year, mandatory.




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