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Trump suggests jail, loss of citizenship for burning U.S. flag

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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Not individuals...groups. There are too many 'groups' of people in my eyes these days. No one looks as themselves as a collective but a 'give me rights' because of this and 'give me rights' because I do not agree with you.

There was a time when we were a country and did things for all not the few.


Yay! I do agree with you on "give me this, give me that". I'm a Globalist, remember - - I support the collective.

I just don't see how that applies to this particular subject.




posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Oh please, don't act so coy. Your 'time machine' post was just itching to tell us things would have been different if someone else was elected.

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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Annee

Oh please, don't act so coy. Your 'time machine' post was just itching to tell us things would have been different if someone else was elected.


That is your personal interpretation. Own it!

I wasn't saying that at all.

Fact is Trump will probably end up being more of what I want then his average supporter.

I'm just not susceptible to the Pied Pier effect of Trump.

IMO - - he says this kind of stuff to rile up his base. And it works every time.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Indigo5

And you also lived to see CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES rule to protect that political expression.



The USSC should not be taking Liberal or a Conservative side in reality, should it?

Should it not be just making decisions via Constitutional Rights?


Correct...that is why I cited Justice Scalia as ruling in favor of protecting political speech in the form of flag burning.

I just find it ironic that the right wing is sliding so far toward tyrannical disposition that they now view Scalia as liberal...or more accurately they view the Constitution itself as "liberal".



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Because the 'majority' thinks it is wrong. I do not see 300 million people burning flags.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: LSU0408

You guys need the safe place a place where you can't burn a flag because you don like freedom of expression.
Heck you guys have all turned into the ultimate snowflakes .


LULZ



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Annee

Oh please, don't act so coy. Your 'time machine' post was just itching to tell us things would have been different if someone else was elected.


That is your personal interpretation. Own it!


Try telling that to the trendy lefties and social justice radicals, but it would probably fall on deaf ears.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Annee

Oh please, don't act so coy. Your 'time machine' post was just itching to tell us things would have been different if someone else was elected.


That is your personal interpretation. Own it!


Try telling that to the trendy lefties and social justice radicals, but it would probably fall on deaf ears.


Why?

Your post was directed at me. Not them.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:01 PM
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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Because the 'majority' thinks it is wrong. I do not see 300 million people burning flags.


You don't support Majority in the presidential vote.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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Trump diehard followers cannot be persuaded


The only thing we will have to do is wait for the carnage he will bring on the country…


Like him appointing anti Medicare congressional representatives to destroy it and privatize it


The virtual military junta he erecting with all these JSOC and Blackwater connections, now he wants to remove citizenship from people!

The writing is on the wall folks

we tried to warn you



visupview.blogspot.com...



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Nope. Especially when only 1/3rd of the country actually votes. I believe in the EC. If Trump would have won the majority and lost the EC I would have simply accepted it. Whats fair is fair.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: LSU0408

The nazis said the same about their flag. Sorry but if you want freedom it should be allowed....Its only a flag...


The Nazis were unified, too. Just because they valued their flag like patriotic Americans do and wanted to protect it, doesn't mean patriotic Americans are Nazis for wanting to protect their flag at all costs.

I wonder what would happen if a white guy jumped up on a table in the school cafeteria at lunch time and screamed "n*gger." It's only a word...

No they weren't. The Nazi's claimed the national elections in Germany in 1930 over the sitting party and by 1932 when they became the largest party they still didn't have a majority.


So the Nazis weren't unified and didn't want to protect their flag? I'm trying to see where any of what you said ties in with that.

Just saying the country wasn't unified under Nazi rule. There were many dissenting opinions in Germany and saying they were unified is a lie. Get your facts straight.


Of course it wasn't, we all know that. I believe you're either overanalyzing my post or misinterpreting it. When we say Nazis, we're talking about those who followed Hitler, no? Not all Germans. They seemed pretty unified from what I've read. What facts am I missing?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Trump diehard followers cannot be persuaded


The only thing we will have to do is wait for the carnage he will bring on the country…


Like him appointing anti Medicare congressional representatives to destroy it and privatize it


The virtual military junta he erecting with all these JSOC and Blackwater connections, now he wants to remove citizenship from people!

The writing is on the wall folks

we tried to warn you



Yes, he is appointing anti people to everything - - - except military.

I haven't decided if the military appointees are Pro or Con yet. Depends on where you stand.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Hmm, Bluegrass also happens to be a term used for grass roots politicians from the south.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: DisUglyBoyHere

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: RickinVa
this thread is pointless.

I am going to burn a damn flag in protest of this thread.


Make sure it's a rainbow flag so you can see how these 1st Amendment patriots act when it's a flag they feel represents them.

Take a rainbow flag, put it next to a American flag, tie it together with a Mexican and rebel flag. then stuff it in a koran and bible and burn the whole thing

Because there are no objects that trump the freedom of expression, and if you are for one form and want to make illegal the other, then you are anti-American and its you personally who needs to be burned in order to MAGA


Ironically, because of how patriotic I am, I'm in favor of punishing anyone who burns the US Flag. So basically, I'm so patriotic I'm anti-American according to you... What a world. Our ancestors would be ashamed of the way things have turned out so far, IMO.


No, no, no, that's not called anti-American, that's called having a right-wing authoritarian mindset. Making such a law would set a dangerous precedence on people who express their disdain towards the government.

Who's to say that after flag burning is done, it then becomes illegal to make fake tabloids (which is extremely prevalent) on the government or president, so they outlaw that too. Keep sliding down the slippery slope and conspiracies and speculation that criticizes or attempts to whistle blow at the government is illegal.

Then they outlaw anyone who vehemently protests against the government (peacefully).

Onwards to outlawing any type of criticism, verbal or nonverbal, towards the government. Then we'll live in Mussolini's paradise!


Lets put it this way... I loathe anyone who burns the American Flag. To make such a thing illegal wouldn't bother me at all. I couldn't care less what those who disagree call me. The names and insults fall on deaf ears today.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Nope. Especially when only 1/3rd of the country actually votes. I believe in the EC. If Trump would have won the majority and lost the EC I would have simply accepted it. Whats fair is fair.



You Can NOT twist that.

You argue for one that its because MAJORITY want it.

Then against MAJORITY vote for president.

You are making up excuses.



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: LSU0408

The nazis said the same about their flag. Sorry but if you want freedom it should be allowed....Its only a flag...


The Nazis were unified, too. Just because they valued their flag like patriotic Americans do and wanted to protect it, doesn't mean patriotic Americans are Nazis for wanting to protect their flag at all costs.

I wonder what would happen if a white guy jumped up on a table in the school cafeteria at lunch time and screamed "n*gger." It's only a word...

No they weren't. The Nazi's claimed the national elections in Germany in 1930 over the sitting party and by 1932 when they became the largest party they still didn't have a majority.


So the Nazis weren't unified and didn't want to protect their flag? I'm trying to see where any of what you said ties in with that.

Just saying the country wasn't unified under Nazi rule. There were many dissenting opinions in Germany and saying they were unified is a lie. Get your facts straight.


Of course it wasn't, we all know that. I believe you're either overanalyzing my post or misinterpreting it. When we say Nazis, we're talking about those who followed Hitler, no? Not all Germans. They seemed pretty unified from what I've read. What facts am I missing?


You must have missed the famous part of the story where they politically abolished different parties one by one. Unification at what cost?

"First they came for the Socialists..." sounds like who again?



posted on Nov, 29 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Hmm, Bluegrass also happens to be a term used for grass roots politicians from the south.

So what? First off, why should I or anyone else have to be up-to-date with regional political dialect? Second off that expression originated to talk about and describe Bluegrass music. If you didn't know that, that is your fault. So you put your foot in your mouth by just assuming my avatar's meaning instead of asking about what it meant.
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