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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

You will need to prove that statement about not understanding science neighbour. I also choose my faith, and my Gods, thus I know the difference between Science and Religion.




posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

I cant convince the average evolutionist that evolution is unscientific because they don't understand science.
That and they need evolution to be true

I don't need evolution to be true, I need better evidence


but evolution doesn't need you or your approval or your confirmation. i dont think you understand that. or maybe you just don't accept it. but it doesnt matter.
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

I cant convince the average evolutionist that evolution is unscientific because they don't understand science.
That and they need evolution to be true

I don't need evolution to be true, I need better evidence


but evolution doesn't need you or your approval or your confirmation. i dont think you understand that. or maybe you just don't accept it. but it doesnt matter.


Evolution doesnt ned my approval or confirmation, true

But it does seem to matter when I say I dont see enough evidence , also seems to cause serious issues when I question it

Yeah, it does seem to matter

What I understand is that me believing in creation theory
causes many people serious issues, if you dont, thats fine by me, there is no biblical laws demanding anyone does.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman

You will need to prove that statement about not understanding science neighbour. I also choose my faith, and my Gods, thus I know the difference between Science and Religion.


There are many who believe evolution is a science that is fact
Thats the proof neighbour



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

You have yet to disprove that evolution is a scientifically valid theory. In all the many posts you've made claiming it is not, you've yet to provide proof. Thus it can only be assumed you can not supply said proof.

Hitchen's Razor is this applied.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman

You have yet to disprove that evolution is a scientifically valid theory. In all the many posts you've made claiming it is not, you've yet to provide proof. Thus it can only be assumed you can not supply said proof.

Hitchen's Razor is this applied.


I dont have to prove anything, thats foolish, utter foolishness

Science by its very definition has the burden of proof placed upon it, only a goose cant understand that

Hitchens razor, yeah right, hitchens feather more realistically

I dont need proof for a faith belief/statement, thats nonsense, piffle, use your brain, think about it, thats moronic. I am not claiming a scientific foundation
Evolution claims a scientific foundation, meaning to the less well educated on this site, the burden of evidence is on scientists to prove evolution is indeed a fact or fiction with EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

You prove evolution is science and you wont need to ask the question of the thread title.
Show some empirical evidence and you wont need the thread at all, this conversation dies, you become the winner, I cower off with my tail between my legs, you become the atheist evolutionist hero who slayed the big bad christian dragons of ats

Bah Humbug on you and old man Hitchens, you are joking, I understand that???



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Science has passed the burden of proof requirements for demonstrating that evolution is a theory. You refuse to acknowledge this. You rant about empirical evidence (its been provided, and you ignore it), and throw buzz words around.

In the end, the burden of proof is on you to prove that evolution is not scientific. You always resort to calling those who accept evolution atheists. You've been proven wrong on several occasions on that as well.

Thus the most simple conclusion is you are here to troll.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman

Science has passed the burden of proof requirements for demonstrating that evolution is a theory. You refuse to acknowledge this. You rant about empirical evidence (its been provided, and you ignore it), and throw buzz words around.

In the end, the burden of proof is on you to prove that evolution is not scientific. You always resort to calling those who accept evolution atheists. You've been proven wrong on several occasions on that as well.

Thus the most simple conclusion is you are here to troll.


You are proof of my argument about people not understanding science as opposed to faith.
The burden is not on me.
If evolution is true, show me the empirical evidence its the truth, outside of the evidence, if there is no empirical evidence, then its a faith, just a belief, just a fairy tale for grown ups, unproven belief by people to ignorant to learn and study science


humansarefree.com...

www.scienceagainstevolution.org...


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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

This seems to me to be a little deeper and more personal than you are trying to make it out to be. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

Are you more concerned about how no one is convincing or that you are not convinced of anything? Or are you?



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

There is no one size fits all answer.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
Evolution doesnt ned my approval or confirmation, true

But it does seem to matter when I say I dont see enough evidence , also seems to cause serious issues when I question it


It matters to you, but not to the thousands of experts that have studied it for decades that happen to understand a heck of a lot more than you do on this topic. They all see the evidence that you pretend to ignore simply because you don't understand it and what the ramifications are.

Science gives probabilities based on evidence, it doesn't state things as 100% right or 100% wrong. The more evidence you have in support of something, the higher the probability. You don't just look at one single piece of evidence and say that it definitively proves evolution. You have to look at ALL the evidence together, and when you do that it's very difficult to honestly deny. You won't find any one single experiment or piece of evidence that proves evolution all together. But if you look at numerous experiments and all of the fossil evidence and all of the evidence evidence, there's pretty much no other explanation for the diversity of life. If you wish to argue against science you need to show evidence that points to another explanation or show evidence that conflicts with the existing evidence in favor of evolution. Whining that the evidence doesn't count doesn't matter in the slightest, because that's just your personal opinion based on confirmation bias and ignorance. Why is your case against evolution so unconvincing that it relies on you repeating the same nonsense over and over and over and not addressing the evidence itself?
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posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

You keep making statements like that, with out supporting evidence. Every time we get to talking actual science .... you run away.

I've answered (as have several others) your questions repeatedly.

I will also note, your sources you quote, prove why you are unqualified in discussing this topic.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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Besides EGO alone it would impinge on SO many factors,cultural ,individual history,vectored perceptions,I couldn't guess how.
I suppose the numbers game is fun but it all boils down to individual belief.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

I cant convince the average evolutionist that evolution is unscientific because they don't understand science.
That and they need evolution to be true

I don't need evolution to be true, I need better evidence


but evolution doesn't need you or your approval or your confirmation. i dont think you understand that. or maybe you just don't accept it. but it doesnt matter.




Evolution doesnt ned my approval or confirmation, true

But it does seem to matter when I say I dont see enough evidence , also seems to cause serious issues when I question it

Yeah, it does seem to matter

What I understand is that me believing in creation theory
causes many people serious issues, if you dont, thats fine by me, there is no biblical laws demanding anyone does.


LOL!! Really? What causes us "issues" is your stagnant, stubborn, irrational and obstinate refusal to even actually discuss the topic. Please show me where you have EVER provided academic back-up, or evidence, or any other sort of reason we should even pay any attention to you.

DO IT NOW, or forever be known as an apprentice troll who wore out his apprenticeship and alienated the only people willing to talk to him.
Please.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman

You keep making statements like that, with out supporting evidence. Every time we get to talking actual science .... you run away.

I've answered (as have several others) your questions repeatedly.

I will also note, your sources you quote, prove why you are unqualified in discussing this topic.


I would suggest your answers and all your sources are that of a child
See, it's no win, why drone on
I think it's about the sound of your own voice and how much you enjoy it

Dismissing my sources is dismissing science, you are happy to dismiss anything that disagrees with you
I believe you have disqualified yourself and science

Barcs, stop it
Show me the empirical evidence, not a pile of assumptions
All you have got is theory, nothing, zero



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs


To Padawan Raggedyman.
DO IT NOW, or forever be known as an apprentice troll who wore out his apprenticeship and alienated the only people willing to talk to him.


BuzzyWigs,

Padawan Raggedyman will always be a Padawan.

The evidence of this is demonstrable just like evolution. 😉

Coomba98
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posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

See there you go again. In the many threads, in the many replies, many of us have shown you evidence, including empirical, yet you always dodge that, and demand EVIDENCE!!!! (emphasis yours) .

You also imply that several of us are the same person.

You don't understand science, as evidenced by your inability to actually discuss it when it is discussed. Indeed you never partake in those discussions.

thus it has been shown, you are trolling.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

I cant convince the average evolutionist that evolution is unscientific because they don't understand science.
That and they need evolution to be true

I don't need evolution to be true, I need better evidence


but evolution doesn't need you or your approval or your confirmation. i dont think you understand that. or maybe you just don't accept it. but it doesnt matter.




Evolution doesnt ned my approval or confirmation, true

But it does seem to matter when I say I dont see enough evidence , also seems to cause serious issues when I question it

Yeah, it does seem to matter

What I understand is that me believing in creation theory
causes many people serious issues, if you dont, thats fine by me, there is no biblical laws demanding anyone does.


LOL!! Really? What causes us "issues" is your stagnant, stubborn, irrational and obstinate refusal to even actually discuss the topic. Please show me where you have EVER provided academic back-up, or evidence, or any other sort of reason we should even pay any attention to you.

DO IT NOW, or forever be known as an apprentice troll who wore out his apprenticeship and alienated the only people willing to talk to him.
Please.



I suggest you try about 5 posts above yours sweety
Plenty of scientists making statements, academics, evidence, issues

Now my friend, you read those issues, those problems from other atheists who don't believe in evolution, you come back to me with why they are wrong
Why those atheists who don't accept evolution are, well you know

Or I guess you will be labeled as that little under the bridge dwelling beast, no, no apprentice, you can be the master.

Did you note noinden attacking the atheists scientists in the links, saying they had no value.
They had no value because though like him they were atheists, they unlike him were actually scientists, see noinden refuses to accept anyone's credentials unlessey agree with him

I bet you are like that as well



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Except none of them are subject matter experts



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Raggedyman

See there you go again. In the many threads, in the many replies, many of us have shown you evidence, including empirical, yet you always dodge that, and demand EVIDENCE!!!! (emphasis yours) .

You also imply that several of us are the same person.

You don't understand science, as evidenced by your inability to actually discuss it when it is discussed. Indeed you never partake in those discussions.

thus it has been shown, you are trolling.


Did you show me pictures and then say
Look empirical evidence

Seriously my scientifically challenged opponent, can you show me repeatable, observable and testable scientific evidence that animals evolve into other animals

I feel I am beating up on a blind man, it seems cruel.
Sadly the blind man isn't just getting hit by me, he is walking into a tree, a post and falling over the fence as well in his blind fury
It's embarrassing for you noindy

And if I have implied you are the same person, my apologies, I don't mind or care either way



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