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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are trying to play a game, please dont
It's not a game.
Surely you feel the same about the evolutionists you speak with.
Doesn't it bother you that you can't convince anyone of your side.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are trying to play a game, please dont
It's not a game.
Surely you feel the same about the evolutionists you speak with.
Doesn't it bother you that you can't convince anyone of your side.
It bothers me that they are so close minded they can't undeerstand that the evidence isn't there to prove evolution
It bothers me they can't see that the science is questionable
It bothers me the faith they have they won't admit
It doesn't bother me that they believe in evolution
As I stated, evolution it's a logical belief, my beliefs are the strange ones
I use to believe in evolution, how can I not understand why others do
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Raggedyman
Sorry for dragging you into that.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are trying to play a game, please dont
It's not a game.
Surely you feel the same about the evolutionists you speak with.
Doesn't it bother you that you can't convince anyone of your side.
It bothers me that they are so close minded they can't undeerstand that the evidence isn't there to prove evolution
It bothers me they can't see that the science is questionable
It bothers me the faith they have they won't admit
It doesn't bother me that they believe in evolution
As I stated, evolution it's a logical belief, my beliefs are the strange ones
I use to believe in evolution, how can I not understand why others do
you say evolution is a logical belief, but theres no evidence for it? ...hmm mkay.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: Raggedyman
You are trying to play a game, please dont
It's not a game.
Surely you feel the same about the evolutionists you speak with.
Doesn't it bother you that you can't convince anyone of your side.
It bothers me that they are so close minded they can't undeerstand that the evidence isn't there to prove evolution
It bothers me they can't see that the science is questionable
It bothers me the faith they have they won't admit
It doesn't bother me that they believe in evolution
As I stated, evolution it's a logical belief, my beliefs are the strange ones
I use to believe in evolution, how can I not understand why others do
you say evolution is a logical belief, but theres no evidence for it? ...hmm mkay.
Mmkay
How about its more logical than believing in a big sky fairy, spaghetti monster type being that has no empirical evidence I can see
It's not hard to understand, maybe it is
The fact you can't understand that doesn't surprise me
Aliens seem to be a logical belief, I don't believe in visitors from other planets. Simple?
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Raggedyman
Sorry for dragging you into that.
It's a valid thread
To convince me you only need valid science
Not the fossil record as it stands, that proves nothing,
Saying that there is a lot of undiscovered fossils is not evidence
Fruit fly evolving into fruit fly is not evidence an elephant evolving into a tusk less elephant is not rvidence, bacteria evolving into bacteria, you get the point
I would like to see the full fossil record, an evolutionary lineage, not some pictures of what is possible
I would like answers to the Big Bang and abiogenesis, relevant or irrelevant it's important to me
It does amaze me how those with an opposing view argue how irrelevant the BB and abiogenesis is to them it's not to me. They can just dismiss it, I can't
As a Christian, I accept other chtistians who believe in evolution, it's their choice, I can believe in evolution as well without it effecting my faith to much, just don't see the science
originally posted by: TzarChasm
Lets say someone wants to see gods full genome, dental record, and pedigree. if this is unable to be provided, does it thus follow that such a being is not real? in accordance with your standards in empirical evidence?
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TzarChasm
Lets say someone wants to see gods full genome, dental record, and pedigree. if this is unable to be provided, does it thus follow that such a being is not real? in accordance with your standards in empirical evidence?
I think you are failing to understand your own question
I dont try and convince people here God exists, simple?
I question the science of evolution, simple?
I am at a bit of a loss as to your common sense and question
I believe in God by faith, I have stated as such numerous times, I dont have the same faith in evolution or the pseudo science behind it.
Is that not a simple construct
what if I asked you.
You have faith in the science of evolution, why cant you have faith in God, if you are an atheist
originally posted by: TzarChasm
thats the thing though, or one thing anyways. there is less basis for theology than there is for evolution, but instead of critiquing theology, here ya be giving evolution a hard time because...you are bothered by a competent rivalry? rather one sided at this point id have to say. my skepticism has been largely laid to rest by the overwhelming number of advances we have made as a direct result of evolutionary research, to answer your question. advances that would not have been possible if mes were based in unreliable methods as you seem to suggest. A question in return - why exactly are you so unconvincing, raggedy?
i also noticed you avoided my question concerning your apparent disconnect between things that seem logical and your capacity for accepting them. evolution is logical, but has no evidence. you said that. you also said it makes more sense than sky fairies, but in your next post you asserted your theological leanings. whats with all the switching back and forth? you can't be consistent but accuse science of inconsistency. you criticize the sprinkle of faith in science while ignoring the pillars of faith that support theism. all faith is equal to you, but one kind is superior to another? why are you so unconvincing...I think i may already know the answer...the question is, has the op spotted it yet?
I am asking people to explain evolution scientificaly, not based on faith.
I am not telling anyone to believe in creation, just questioning evolution and the science it claims to be based on.
If I want to convince anyone anything, its that the science is not science.
I cant convince them because they are ignorant of science and poorly educated.
Evolution may even be right, I just dont see the evidence in science.
I am consistent, just not conforming to your standard
I criticise evolution simply because there is no room in science for any faith, even for, as you state "the sprinkle of faith in science" and I dont think its a sprinkle, I think its a big fat dollop
just not the that relies on assumption and imagination