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Fake News Just For Right-Wingers: A Huge Industry

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posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
The OP seems sorta bias.

If this information was presented in a neutral way it could have went a lot further.

When you insult and deride your target audience it's a lot harder to make a point.


"Seems?"

Lulz.




posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Let's pretend that we're starting over :-)

The waters have been polluted - this guy pretends it was all about good intentions, but the money didn't hurt

Less button pushing than the Daily Kos - but NPR is hopefully a little more trustworthy?

:-)

Coler says he has been talking it over with his wife and may be getting out of the fake-news racket. But, he says, dozens, maybe hundreds of entrepreneurs will be ready to take his place. And he thinks it will only get harder to tell their websites from real news sites. They know now that fake news sells and they will only be in it for the money.


"The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler says.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe



Thank you for this find desert, very interesting article.


You're welcome. It is all part of understanding background. How one thing leads to another. Especially the next step, blindly to incorporate fake news into one's worldview. Here's more

Brainwashing of My Dad Seeks to Unravel the History and Impact of Right-Wing Media


Senko draws a straight line from the once-fringe ideology of the John Birch Society to the Tea Party currently championed by Fox and taking up residence in the Party of Lincoln. We are told that agendas are pieced together weekly from a patchwork of conservative interests at Grover Norquist’s Wednesday meetings. That buzzwords (like “death tax”) are incubated in Frank Luntz focus groups and grow up to become broadcasted relentlessly to inculcate popular support for elite opinions. That talking points from Ailes cascade from early-morning memos down to the primetime arias of Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.


Senko's How Fox News and the Right-Wing Media Machine Made My Dad Crazy



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: desert

That is an excellent article, and I thank you for posting it.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm



Basically doom porn 24/7.


Yes. For decades.

Someone tried to warn us now, but no one listened.


Don’t assume that a candidate like Donald Trump can’t be elected president.



The radical right has a radical plan for America. If we don’t wake up soon, we’ll find ourselves in a country controlled by big-money bosses, no-government libertarians, radical Christians, and old John Birchers.


Radical Trump Fever

What she predicted would happen happened. We're here now.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: desert

Yes, it was a decent article.

Specifically the part where as the father rejected the ideals that others were forcing upon him. Eventually being ostracized by his family because he had different beliefs.

How progressive and inclusive.

I don't think folks realize that many Americans don't really care what others do, really. They also don't want to be told how to think or act or that their opinion is grounds for unfounded labels.


Gradually, my Dad had become a completely different person. He was angry all the time, and you couldn’t discuss anything remotely political with him. At the same time, he tried to engage everyone he met to talk about politics, and always tried to find out what “team” they were on. If we didn’t agree with him, he got angry with us. And he wouldn’t stop sending these strange emails. My older brother blocked him first, then I did, and then my younger brother did.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: imwilliam


Yeah, here you're going well beyond the click bait that was the subject of the op.

I'm not sure that the solutions for this type of state sponsored propaganda and the click bait problem are the same.

If the motives are different, the results are the same. People react to fake news, and make decisions and choices based on fake news

This one example posted in the OP is not all we're looking at here in our own country



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: JinMI



How progressive and inclusive.


Nope. No all holding hands and singing kumbaya. That's right.
And out of fear of losing voters, the Republican Party did NOTHING except to say good-bye to those who left, and then immediately regrouped into an ever increasing fearful worldview. Not all who remain in the Rep Party believe as a John Bircher or in Koch ideology, but they do nothing to stop it. They own it now, lock, stock, and barrel.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

No. Buzzy is pointing out that many of the articles floating around are not fact-based in sense of the word.



Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.


What you are engaging in is false equivalence. You are saying because those words are out there, they're fundamentally equally legitimate and we can all have a vote as to whether or not they are true. But facts are not democratically selected nor are they negotiable.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm


Apparently when the brain is reacting to a shock of some kind emotionally it becomes more suggestible. So for example, frightening someone or making them angry, etc. puts them into a more suggestible state of mind where it will accept information more easily than if it is relaxed and stable.

Now, to what degree this works I don't know. But it seems to me that by putting people in a state of constant fear, through, oh let's say always having terror threats and stories about enemies everywhere, etc. Basically doom porn 24/7. That after a while of that being hammered into the minds of people you'd basically put them into a hyper suggestible state almost constantly where you could almost convince them of a completely different reality without them being able to stop it.

This is precisely correct, to the best of my knowledge.

The cortisol levels in the newborn brain are determined by the stress-reactions to a large degree. Genetic temperament and inherited talents or shortcomings also vary. The mother's emotional level during gestation has an impact on the baby.

The baby is born with a preliminary set of wiring......to be tried out as its brain grows into the environment....

so few people are aware of this stuff, or interested....but it is very real.

Same thing happens in groups. Small groups like families, or medium like coworkers, or large like Trump or Sanders.....

anyway.
Your last couple of posts have been very much appreciated, although I'm a little unclear as to about whom you are referring. If you see me as being too ignorant to know that I am wrong, then please explain more to me about where my education is lacking. It pains me to hear you say that, and I want to take immediate action to not be included under that umbrella term, please.

Thanks again for your contribution.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Right wingers? Why so selective?

There are fake news sites that capitalize on confirmation bias. Its not just right wingers that get suckered. Abortion articles, right/left wing articles, stories about old ladies being picked on, sensationalism about The Rock being hauled out in cuffs....fake news is everywhere. If it takes me 10 minutes to bang out an "article", post it to my blog, then share to FB, its a good chance it'll happen. The clicks, man.....the clicks.

No, its not just right wingers. Don't make this partisan. Doing so just turns this into fake news, too.


That all sounds very reasonable, but here's the thing:

www.businessinsider.com...

(One example among many.)

Fake News authors overwhelmingly target the American Right because that audience has a drastically higher click-through rate. So while there's Fake News of all stripes, there is much, much more of it targeting conservative audiences and that's because in the experience of Fake News authors, conservatives are more likely to accept it, propagate it, and even click on the ads displayed with it. That's not partisan, it's just true.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

That is a fantastic link. Thank you.

Earlier I was mocked by a member scoffing that I had taken indepth training over a period of a couple of years; to learn about how to tell a crap site from a real one. And how to build a "real" site that won't assault people with fake virus warnings and flashing animated CLICK HERE NOW arrows in neon pink green and yellow.

There is nothing 'cute' to mock. It is, indeed, a skill to be learned. How many of us have elderly parents who are active on the internet, but can barely connect a printer or a new telephone land-line? Hell, I can barely keep up with the technology upgrades myself!

How many of those people read Infowars and think it's all real? How many do not know that they need to check for other sources instead of listening to that one messenger while knowing it could be all a bunchobulls#.



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posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 11:56 AM
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But facts are not democratically selected nor are they negotiable.


YES. This. ^

The truth is not determined by a show of hands.

Nor will it ever be unless the show of hands represents the real truth.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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wow, so, I just now took a look-see at the thread in total. I've been screening the replies I look at, because I (like many of us) still feel scorched.

I see after I shrugged and logged off for not even 24, the thread started to become muddy. Pity.

Anyway - At least there was some reasonable investigation and admission of possible evidence of things nefarious and contrived, to which we are all - perhaps routinely - exposed.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Huff post: bad news is NO WHERE near as damaging as fake news. News about 12 weird looking cats is not fake news, it's just terrible reporting.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Funny you should mention, Infowars. It along with Alex Jones's other media are a main purveyor of the fearfully paranoid John Birch Society worldviews. He calls one of their publications, "the quintessential primer to understand the New World Order." Decades ago it used to be only the JBS members I knew who talked like this, but now one doesn't need a membership to have this worldview. Instead of speaking out against such an irrational fearful worldview, the Rep Party courted it, enabling such thinking to take over their party and giving it the political power it never should have had.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: Shamrock6

No. Buzzy is pointing out that many of the articles floating around are not fact-based in sense of the word.



Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.


What you are engaging in is false equivalence. You are saying because those words are out there, they're fundamentally equally legitimate and we can all have a vote as to whether or not they are true. But facts are not democratically selected nor are they negotiable.


Yea I'm not really sure where I said any of that. Particularly the false equivalence bit. Where did I say that we all get to sit around and decide what's a fact and what isn't?

I ask because that's pretty antithetical to something I do say quite often, which is that there's your side, my side, and then there's the pure truth of what actually happened.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
wow, so, I just now took a look-see at the thread in total. I've been screening the replies I look at, because I (like many of us) still feel scorched.

I see after I shrugged and logged off for not even 24, the thread started to become muddy. Pity.

Anyway - At least there was some reasonable investigation and admission of possible evidence of things nefarious and contrived, to which we are all - perhaps routinely - exposed.



So you've been looking for an echo chamber all along?

Go figure.



posted on Nov, 27 2016 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: desert


Funny you should mention, Infowars. It along with Alex Jones's other media are a main purveyor of the fearfully paranoid John Birch Society worldviews. He calls one of their publications, "the quintessential primer to understand the New World Order."


Your graciousness is noted, but it's not "funny" at all that I mentioned it, and you know that, my dear!


Alex Jones and Infowars and PrisonPlanet are withou question among the most nefarious instigators of all of this. Trump either got suckered into their black hole of oppositional defiance, or it's all still a sick prelude to Trump TV - a network that will make Rupert Murdoch blush ----

It's terrifying on that level. And it's imperative that people KNOW THIS. Maybe the victory is still too sweet to savor, and the reality won't set in for a few more (or several) months. Maybe it will take two full years until the next Midterms.....but it will be happening in slo-mo, as per usual....

I heard a veteran Congress guy say "It's designed to go slowly. That is deliberate."

Maybe they can teach their leading man that before it's too late.

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