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Jill Stein Makes Recount Filing Deadline in Wisconsin

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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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Worst case scenario, all three states accept recount and are unable to make the deadline, those electoral votes are voided. The decision for president moves to House of reps and they decide between the top three candidates who received the most electoral votes.

I'm not sure about who the third candidate would be, since only Trump and Hillary received any electoral votes, so third place could be anyone who was in the running with 0 points. Johnson received the most popular votes after Trump and Hillary, but it could be some kind of legal loophole; although I believe the goal is to get Trump below the 270 threshold and Hillary might have just enough politicians bought off to get the nomination.

Apart from this being an obvious money scam, it could be a meaningless gesture for the integrity of elections. But, in this election, anything is possible. Let's keep in mind, the elections weren't rigged, until the democrats lost.




posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: loam

omg, this guy has no idea what to say, and what he does say really doesnt make a whole lot of sense.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Conditions are simple in Wisconsin..if a candidate requests a recount and is willing to pay for it, they get it.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

to your knowledge is it the same in PA and MI?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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a reply to: annoyedpharmacist

Reading this story it seems that the process is similar in Michigan, except that the commision has to have evidence...

www.detroitnews.com...



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: loam


Ah , How You Say ?








posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

thanks. it seems from that article that the accusations of fraud are based on pre election polls and discrepancy to the actual reported results. If that is all they got, there is no way a recount should be allowed. We all know polls can be manipulated and results can be quite inaccurate at times.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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its on baby! My advice, by gun and ammo stock monday morning, once the first recount happens everybody is going to lock and load. And for yourselves buy guns and ammo.

We's about to have ourselves a good ole constitutional crisis.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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An interesting take by Nate Silver on Wisconsin's recount...
mobile.twitter.com...



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

So you know days in advance your candidate is about to file this recount. You go on national television to explain it...and that is the best he could come up with????

wow.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: annoyedpharmacist




Candidate-Initiated Options: While candidates cannot file a direct request for a recount, they may appeal the “order or decision of any county board regarding the computation or canvassing of the returns of any primary or election, or regarding any recount or recanvass thereof.” During the appeal process, the court may determine that a recount is necessary. See 25 P.S. 3157.


ceimn.org...

(edit) This is rules for PA recount

I was looking around, it seems that a recount can be initiated if 3 electors request it. So, if 3 of the 6 supposed faithless electors are in PA, then it is possible.

Trump has 306, he would have to lose all three states, the odds of that happening are astronomical....
edit on 25-11-2016 by GodEmperor because: edit



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

So you know days in advance your candidate is about to file this recount. You go on national television to explain it...and that is the best he could come up with????

wow.




Now you know Why this Whole Story is Ridiculous .




In Other News..... Black Lives Matter Protests Black Friday . Definitely a Black Day In America...



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: loam

This is totally ridiculous!!!
These states have better things to do with their time and money than cater to the whims of Jill Stein.
This gives Wisconsin --and maybe MI an PA----two weeks to do what may takes months....and possible negate the votes of everyone in those states....
If the recount isn't done by a certain date in December...those electoral votes may be gone.....IOW.....even if Trump hold his win.....if the cannot get it done in time.....he loses the votes.

Wisconsin's last statewide recount was in 2011 for a state Supreme Court seat and the outcome did not change. The recount showed Justice David Prosser defeated challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg by 7,004 votes — a slightly tighter margin than the 7,316-vote victory he had in initial returns.

That recount took more than a month. This one would have to happen more quickly because of a federal law that says must complete presidential recounts within 35 days of the election to ensure their electoral votes are counted. This year, that's Dec. 13.

"You may potentially have the state electoral votes at stake if it doesn't get done by then," said Haas.

www.jsonline.com...




Was waiting for some of these real issues to come up. The one that is being talked about online is the deadline. If the recounts aren't finished by the 13th the votes disappear and both are under the 270 and then someone else may be in.

However, was checking in to see if more info here could be gleaned from someone in the know.

Because, apparently if the deadline isn't reached, then the original stands which means of course he is over the 270.

If the amount changes, it would have to do so in all 3 states and MI is hand ballots. Not likely to recount those by hand by the deadline so the original would stand.

And if they somehow magically do this, and they all reverted to her, this would be tied up in courts.

But the fears that she hadn't rigged it enough so now would rig the recount still stands for many.
edit on 25-11-2016 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy

I still can't see how Stein wins in any of the three states in court, given that there is case precedence set forth by the SCOTUS that all lower courts are compelled to abide by. There really isn't any gray area here


I just read through a fair amount of the case results of Bush vs. Gore (link to source material below) and have to disagree that there is no grey area. In fact, it seems rather clear from the final opinion that the Supreme Court declared that the case was not to be used as precedence for future elections.

" The recount process, in its features here described, is inconsistent with the minimum procedures necessary to protect the fundamental right of each voter in the special instance of a statewide recount under the authority of a single state judicial officer. Our consideration is limited to the present circumstances, for the problem of equal protection in election processes generally presents many complexities. "

Analysis of Gore vs Bush



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:52 PM
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But the fears that she hadn't rigged it enough so now would rig the recount still stands for many.


I know that fear still stands for me. No matter how long the odds, or hurdles to jump over, I will never ever under estimate the lengths that the Clinton machine will go to get power.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: Unity_99

If, in the course of all three recounts, there is evidence of fraud, the results would be thrown out.

I think that's the only way it could work.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

There seems to be some debate on the electorals disappearing, ie the votes disappear, which would be blatantly corrupt to begin with, or the onus being on the person recounting to make the deadline and if not, the original stands.

I keep getting people citing different articles. This is the critical point.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: Voiceofthemajority

You're forgetting one very important ruling during that case. There was no possible way a recount could be done in a matter of time to accommodate the Safe Harbor. This would be in violation of us codes. We have the same instance here. It will not be until the second week of December that the Supreme Court would hear this, if they even do hear this. If that is not enough time to do a recount of 3 States. This is not going to stand. This is all being done to discredit Trump



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Unity_99

To Contest a Presidential Election , which Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party Have Not Done , there would have to be a Recount of Votes In All 50 States . Jill Stein's attempt at Disrupting the Final Results of this Election is Not going to Change the Results .



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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Hillary AKA Kankles at it again. This woman will never stop. Now she is using a surrogate to try and do a Bernie on the results.. We can only hope she strokes out soon.




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