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Trump May Violate Constitution As Soon As He Takes Oath

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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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Trump is likely to violate the emolument clause of the constitution if he takes the Oath of Office in January without removing himself from his business.


No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


An emolument is defined as 'a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office.'

A few links on this; Donald Trump and the Emoluments Clause, explained

Trump's International Business Dealings Could Violate The Constitution

Does the Constitution put limits on a president’s private business ties?

Here’s Why Trump’s Business Interests Could Trigger A Constitutional Crisis

If he continues earning money from his private business while in the office it will violate the constitution unless congress exempts him from it, which would be unprecedented for the nation.




posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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How is this related to his businesses? That clause is saying he cannot be a king or prince of another nation and be president.

Edit to add: I missed this part. I see your point now.



The Constitution says that no elected official can take an “emolument” of “any kind whatever” from a king, prince, or foreign state. The restriction, known as “the Emoluments Clause,”is intended to prevent political officials from receiving gifts from foreign governments.


www.vox.com...

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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:32 PM
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King, Prince or foreign state? How does he violate this?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: links234
Trump is likely to violate the emolument clause of the constitution if he takes the Oath of Office in January without removing himself from his business.


No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


An emolument is defined as 'a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office.'

A few links on this; Donald Trump and the Emoluments Clause, explained

Trump's International Business Dealings Could Violate The Constitution

Does the Constitution put limits on a president’s private business ties?

Here’s Why Trump’s Business Interests Could Trigger A Constitutional Crisis

If he continues earning money from his private business while in the office it will violate the constitution unless congress exempts him from it, which would be unprecedented for the nation.


Congress can't "exempt" anyone from a constitutional provision. For example, the Constitution says that anyone born in the US is a citizen. Congress can't legally pass a law saying only people born in Texas are citizens.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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Isn't he taking the 1 dollar salary deal ?

nullifies it does it not ?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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He and his children have already said, in separate instances, that his children will be running the family business.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:35 PM
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So which "King, Prince, or foreign State" would be giving Trump an emoluent?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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But, if this only refers to gifts, then I still don't see how he would be in violation. I assume you are talking about Saudi diplomats staying in his hotel? At least that is the first thing that pops into my mind. But I would not consider that "gifts." They are paying for a service.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:36 PM
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Get ready for President Pence !!!!




posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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That would apply more to Hillary wouldn't you think?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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This refers to holding public office other than President of the United States, and that you can't be a foreign noble.

Not sure where private enterprises come into that.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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Hillary taking campaign contributions from foreign countries would violate this also. Those funds are used to help her get the job, to me that means it is a personal thing. You might as well throw that whole law into the landfill, nobody seems to follow it, they skirt the laws to find a legal loophole.

Not one cent of any campaign money should come from other nations or big foreign companies, even if it goes through a local company office in the USA. Just because a corporation has a business location in America does not mean it is an American company. Some companies like Toyota should actually qualify as an American company though, it's vehicles here are probably more American made than Fords are.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Get ready for President Pence !!!!





And another Christian crusade.




posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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The keyword is emolument.

The emolument is Trump's salary as CEO of his private business. If he continues to receive his salary as CEO of The Trump Organization (which is an international business) then he violates the constitution.

It's not simply a matter of 'the kids' running the business. Trump would have to divest himself entirely from his business, liquidate his assets and place them in a blind trust, meaning he has no idea what his business is doing while he's president. He can't hold foreign diplomatic meetings while his daughter (who is running his business) sits in, he can't receive a salary as CEO of The Trump Organization while simultaneously receiving $1 salary as POTUS.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: links234
The keyword is emolument.

The emolument is Trump's salary as CEO of his private business. If he continues to receive his salary as CEO of The Trump Organization (which is an international business) then he violates the constitution.

It's not simply a matter of 'the kids' running the business. Trump would have to divest himself entirely from his business, liquidate his assets and place them in a blind trust, meaning he has no idea what his business is doing while he's president. He can't hold foreign diplomatic meetings while his daughter (who is running his business) sits in, he can't receive a salary as CEO of The Trump Organization while simultaneously receiving $1 salary as POTUS.


Emolument from a king, prince etc according to the information you supplied. Not from his own business.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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Trump is already taking leaps and bounds so that he won't have any conflicts with our laws. Unlike Obama and Hillary who would have teams of scammers coming up with various schemes on how to "Skirt" our laws, rather than be in compliance with them like Trump is doing.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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The president and vice president are exempt, this doesn't apply.

Not sure why people keep bringing this up.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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Well that would have applied to Hillary via the Clinton Foundation as well.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: links234
The keyword is emolument.

The emolument is Trump's salary as CEO of his private business. If he continues to receive his salary as CEO of The Trump Organization (which is an international business) then he violates the constitution.

It's not simply a matter of 'the kids' running the business. Trump would have to divest himself entirely from his business, liquidate his assets and place them in a blind trust, meaning he has no idea what his business is doing while he's president. He can't hold foreign diplomatic meetings while his daughter (who is running his business) sits in, he can't receive a salary as CEO of The Trump Organization while simultaneously receiving $1 salary as POTUS.


There are two parts. There needs to be a "King, Prince, or foreign State" involved.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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This to-do is just more proof of how petty the Trump-haters are.

Grab your blankie and get your a** in your safe space.

The adults are talking.



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