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The Psychology of Pizzagate

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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:46 AM
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Pizzagate looks sick and evil. There is no doubt it in my mind. I'm wondering what it is that's drawing so many people to Pizzagate when most people ignored the following stories.

5,200 Pentagon Employees Bought Child Pornography – Investigation halted after 8 Months:


www.youtube.com...

In the video above you've got a U.S. Senator saying that the investigation was closed without it ever having been taken seriously. No one was even charged with a crime. It's been years since the investigation was reopened, and I haven't heard a word about any repercussions or anything about it since.

I find the following story to be even worse.

U.S. Soldiers Told to Ignore Sexual Abuse of Boys by Afghan Allies

Where's the outrage over that? There was a little outrage briefly when the story was reported. Everyone seems to have forgotten about it.

What's the difference between Pizzagate and the stories above?

I've come to the conclusion that too many people are out of their minds in the following way:

If it's reported in clear, black-and-white terms that the U.S. government isn't doing anything about child abuse, cognitive dissonance will cause most people to ignore it. They can't deal with the truth when it's unequivocally in their face.

If it's hidden in mystery like Pizzagate, then it's acceptable to demand justice.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

Exactly profusion, 5200 employees and barely a word.

I remember talking to people about that and pointing towards the Franklin Cover up and people eye's would just gloss over.

Pizzagate is having a similar effect, people are demanding hard evidence that is literally impossible to hand over.

What people on the internet have done is collated information that merits a full investigation from every agency, with some sort of transparency due to their past failures.

Powerful people are being exposed and their best friend is cognitive dissonance from the average MSM viewer.


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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 05:59 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

I'm disappointed. I thought this thread would be an examination of why certain people create elaborate fantasies about huge pedophile rings that enjoy advertising their activities with cryptic symbols. Some people look at a photograph of children playing and think they're cute. Others see sexual exploitation. Why is that? That's what I would like to know.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:05 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Profusion

I'm disappointed. I thought this thread would be an examination of why certain people create elaborate fantasies about huge pedophile rings that enjoy advertising their activities with cryptic symbols. Some people look at a photograph of children playing and think they're cute. Others see sexual exploitation. Why is that? That's what I would like to know.


Of course that is what you would wish to see, it fits your narrative.

How does the image of a "German Baby" for $1200 fit into your narrative of innocence?

Pizzagate is not just about a photograph or 2 DJ, but enjoy thinking people are having fantasies, when dc politicians have a history of this sickness, Franklin Cover Up/ Dennis Hastert or do you deny this history?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:18 AM
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I guess you're after the whole Law & Order SVU bust up of children locked in a basement on the live news to start taking it seriously?

You're not going to get it. Great efforts are being made to shut the investigation down.

But what we do have here is a long, long list of coincidences and double entendres documented in publicly available data that lead most people to believe that further investigation is warranted. If this was John Everyman the FBI would launch an investigation asap to uncover whether a crime was in fact being committed but because it's a bunch of rich powerful white Clinton buddies the Media and TPTB are doing all they can to bury the story and halt any investigation.

People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.

This should outrage EVERYONE.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:21 AM
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Dennis Hastert or do you deny this history?


Dennis Hastert didn't publicize his activities with covert signals. There are all sorts of illegal and/or immoral activities going on at all levels of society. Criminals generally do not advertise their activities on social media. It is the people who weave random innocent statements, photos, and corporate logos into "evidence" who are creating a bizarre narrative. Why did an aging pedophile like Hastert go to prison when he could have plea bargained by testifying against this ring of yours?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:22 AM
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Owning a small Pizza place makes you 'rich and powerful'?

Can you even comprehend how many people are this 'rich and powerful'?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi


People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.


And people with something to hide hide it, not post it to Instagram.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:28 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Profusion

I'm disappointed. I thought this thread would be an examination of why certain people create elaborate fantasies about huge pedophile rings that enjoy advertising their activities with cryptic symbols. Some people look at a photograph of children playing and think they're cute. Others see sexual exploitation. Why is that? That's what I would like to know.


"EYES WIDE SHUT" is an apt description......Fear is a great motivator for dismissal....It is human nature to WANT to believe depravity such as this is not possible.....Because IF one allows themselves to even CONSIDER this as a possibility, it destroys the last vestiges of trust in your fellow man......It's truly scary to allow yourself to entertain the option that ......
NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS AND NO ONE CAN BE TRUSTED



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:30 AM
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originally posted by: imjack
Owning a small Pizza place makes you 'rich and powerful'?

Can you even comprehend how many people are this 'rich and powerful'?


GQ named Alefantis as one of the most powerful men in DC long before any of this came out... begs the question, how is the owner of a small pizza place on that list?
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:47 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Kalixi


People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.


And people with something to hide hide it, not post it to Instagram.


What about Serial Killers? They love to taunt the police, have trophies from the victims 'hiding in plain sight' in their homes, insert themselves into the investigation not to find out what the police know necessarily but to live the thrill of the chase. There's a psychological game at play with such people. And the whole #twittergate investigation has exposed thousands of profiles openly posting and sharing child pornorgaphy on twitter, so yeah they actually DID post it on twitter



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: imjack
Owning a small Pizza place makes you 'rich and powerful'?

Can you even comprehend how many people are this 'rich and powerful'?


The guy was running with The Clinton's inner circle and hosted many private fundraisers for the Clinton Campaign. There were multiple pizza restaurants with the same ownership



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi


What about Serial Killers? They love to taunt the police, have trophies from the victims 'hiding in plain sight' in their homes, insert themselves into the investigation not to find out what the police know necessarily but to live the thrill of the chase. There's a psychological game at play with such people.


Only on TV and in movies. With the notable exception of the Zodiac Killer, most serial killers are discovered by accident.


And the whole #twittergate investigation has exposed thousands of profiles openly posting and sharing child pornorgaphy on twitter, so yeah they actually DID post it on twitter


Actual child pornography, or pictures of children you consider pornographic?



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:10 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Kalixi


What about Serial Killers? They love to taunt the police, have trophies from the victims 'hiding in plain sight' in their homes, insert themselves into the investigation not to find out what the police know necessarily but to live the thrill of the chase. There's a psychological game at play with such people.


Only on TV and in movies. With the notable exception of the Zodiac Killer, most serial killers are discovered by accident.


And the whole #twittergate investigation has exposed thousands of profiles openly posting and sharing child pornorgaphy on twitter, so yeah they actually DID post it on twitter


Actual child pornography, or pictures of children you consider pornographic?
I did not see them, but they were described as actual porn. I spent all day yesterday delving into this madness. Although most of the evidence is circumstantial, the artwork hanging in the podesta's homes are pretty damning. Those artists frequently exibit at this pizza joint.
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Artists like marina bromovich, kim noble, another lady, whom i cannot remember how to spell
Bands like heavy breathing, sex stains, and more. These bands videos are full of underage girls and pedo symbology. There is tons of connections being made. I don'blame anyone for not digging to the bottom of this rabbit hole but there are a lot of coincidences if this isn't at least halfway true.

I do see a lot of benign items being brought up as damning evidence but there is plenty really bad stuff to raise an eyebrow.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:14 AM
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Well it's was "pornographic" enough for reddit to bann thousands of acounts. It was pornoraphic enough for Reddit to shutdown various subreddits. In general, the whole story created enough uproar for the NY Times to post a fake article, various other media outlets to copy said article.

As a matter of fact, the amount of censorship and propaganda we're seeing,please to God, spend 10 minutes browsing through still existing reddits such as /conspiracy.

At this point, if you're still denying the plausibility of pizzagate:

- You've either not spend any time researching, other than going to google (which is proven to have been compromised), typing in Pizzagate and reading the New York Times article.

- You've researched but cognitive dissonance is kicking in, and there is absolutely no way, no way jose, that a conspiracy this big could possibly be true.

- You're a shill.


Concidering what i've seen on Reddit the past couple of days, aswell as certain posters on ATS in pizzagate related topics, there's far to many people in any of those 3 categories.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: Profusion

I am doubting 5,200 Pentagon employees and or contractors are guilty of this. I am also certain an investigation was bungled. The ones that really downloaded CP were not all found and/or charged. I am pretty sure, still, this is not pizzagate.


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The 5,200 number reminds me of the hoax scares in the late 80s early 90s.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Kalixi


What about Serial Killers? They love to taunt the police, have trophies from the victims 'hiding in plain sight' in their homes, insert themselves into the investigation not to find out what the police know necessarily but to live the thrill of the chase. There's a psychological game at play with such people.


Only on TV and in movies. With the notable exception of the Zodiac Killer, most serial killers are discovered by accident.


And the whole #twittergate investigation has exposed thousands of profiles openly posting and sharing child pornorgaphy on twitter, so yeah they actually DID post it on twitter


Actual child pornography, or pictures of children you consider pornographic?
I did not see them, but they were described as actual porn. I spent all day yesterday delving into this madness. Although most of the evidence is circumstantial, the artwork hanging in the podesta's homes are pretty damning. Those artists frequently exibit at this pizza joint.


The photographs are in Tony Podesta's home, photographs from a famous photographer, some a little sketchy, but not exactly porn. They were shown in galleries for years before. They are not in John Podesta's home. No one seemed to catch that fact.

Or, they caught it, but didn't seem to want to point it out.
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posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Profusion

I am doubting 5,200 Pentagon employees and or contractors are guilty of this. I am also certain an investigation was bungled. I am pretty sure, still, this is not pizzagate.

The number was 1700 suspects



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:29 AM
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The paintings are shown to be in john podestas house in a magazine spread about his home. Also john and tony have many pieces of art that are currently loaned out to various exibits. You gotta dig for the meat in this stew hun



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: Profusion
Pizzagate looks sick and evil. There is no doubt it in my mind. I'm wondering what it is that's drawing so many people to Pizzagate when most people ignored the following stories.

5,200 Pentagon Employees Bought Child Pornography – Investigation halted after 8 Months:


www.youtube.com...

In the video above you've got a U.S. Senator saying that the investigation was closed without it ever having been taken seriously. No one was even charged with a crime. It's been years since the investigation was reopened, and I haven't heard a word about any repercussions or anything about it since.

I find the following story to be even worse.

U.S. Soldiers Told to Ignore Sexual Abuse of Boys by Afghan Allies

Where's the outrage over that? There was a little outrage briefly when the story was reported. Everyone seems to have forgotten about it.

What's the difference between Pizzagate and the stories above?

I've come to the conclusion that too many people are out of their minds in the following way:

If it's reported in clear, black-and-white terms that the U.S. government isn't doing anything about child abuse, cognitive dissonance will cause most people to ignore it. They can't deal with the truth when it's unequivocally in their face.

If it's hidden in mystery like Pizzagate, then it's acceptable to demand justice.
I don't really like infowars anymore. But Alex Jones had it right when he said that the American people are in a trance, i.e. brainwashed.

I know what people mean by seeing people's eyes glaze over when they are confronted on uncomfortable ideas. It's like when I bring up the real nature of US foreign policy.




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