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The Friends of Science Society (FoS) is a Canadian non-profit group based in Calgary, Alberta, that is "made up of active and retired engineers, earth scientists and other professionals, as well as many concerned Canadians, who believe the science behind the Kyoto Protocol is questionable."
In an August 12, 2006, article The Globe and Mail revealed that the group had received significant funding via anonymous, indirect donations from the oil industry, including a major grant from the Science Education Fund, a donor-directed, flow-through charitable fund at the Calgary Foundation
originally posted by: Astrocyte
a reply to: lordcomac
Indeed. Ask the mayor of Miami whether climate change is real. Florida's biggest and most vibrant city probably wont be around 30 years from now - as the Leonardo Dicaprio movie "Before The Flood" documents.
If people have any shred of selflessness in them - they will not put their selfish and extractive materialism ahead of the continuity of our species - or existence in general on this beautiful and amazing Earth.
originally posted by: lordcomac
Just ask the banks- there are entire cities in florida where you can't get a 30 year mortgage because they're already leveling neighborhoods to raise the ground by a couple of feet every few years.
Estimates say it'll be under water in 15.
They don't make their money back on a 30 year mortgage if the homes are literally under water in 15.
Still, many coastal cities face disaster - and the economy and civilization we have built may be vulnerable under the stresses of frequent natural disasters.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Wow, an ad hominem attack on the Pentagon is your way to denounce anthropogenic climate change.
The ignorance is strong with you my friend.
On third thought, I think the conservative arm of the beast will continue to say it's a non-issue until it is, then blame their liberal arm for allowing it. lol
originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Astrocyte
If there is one thing I've learned the hard way, it's that people believe what they want to believe.
You can tell them the truth, but you can't make them believe it.
It will all become clear at some point and better minds will prevail. Even those who realize what is happening are not doing enough to suit me. Maybe when the human race has to move underground to survive, they will shut up and listen.
On second thought, I doubt it. People have a tendency to listen to who is the loudest. The ignorant are very loud, I've noticed. There are times when it's important to not be shouted down.
Hurricane frequency has increased in my lifetime. In the early 90's an average Atlantic hurricane season had 9 named storms, now an average season is around 12 storms. Also the frequency of category 5 hurricanes has increased.
Figure 2: Atlantic tropical storm counts adjusted for likely missing storms. Once an estimate for likely missing storms is accounted for the increase in tropical storms in the Atlantic since the late-19th Century is not distinguishable from no change. Figure adapted from Vecchi and Knutson (2008, J. Climate)
That is not how this works....
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: network dude
Wow. That is not how this works....for a seasoned poster here, i am surprised you would make such a claim, unless you are intentionally trying to be obtuse here.
It is obvious the concept of radiative forcing is over your head unless.....
Climate change is real: Just ask the Pentagon