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originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: reldra
Of course not. Why would it? It's the blue launchpad of the US. However if someone is going to go through and count votes based upon the integrity of the machines and authenticity of the voters, it should be done everywhere.
This is a pipedream anyhow.
You want to recount everything when 3 states are contested? It would last a year.
originally posted by: JimSmith
a reply to: In4ormant
This is Stein, not Clinton. But for the Clinton argument, I agree.
Reached by email, Halderman pointed us to a statement he'd written at Medium. It's a lengthy examination of how vote-tallying systems have been rigged or manipulated in the past, but the most important line (for our purposes) is this one:
Were this year’s deviations from pre-election polls the results of a cyberattack? Probably not. I believe the most likely explanation is that the polls were systematically wrong, rather than that the election was hacked.
Halderman's concern is less about 2016 than it is broadly about the risk to our electoral systems. As it was in August, when he was featured in a Politico article warning of the same risks. (Halderman also notes that Sherman got the numbers wrong.)
originally posted by: In4ormant
"However, Some political statisticians, including FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver and The New York Times’ Nate Cohn ahve cast doubt on the claims. Both men have said that the suspicious results apparently disappear when the numbers are controlled for demographic factors like education and race."
Hey let's blow 2.5mil on an already conceded and lost race. Sounds like our government. Maybe this is one of many reasons you lost. Why not take this time to self reflect instead of counting votes.
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: reldra
funny, you say others whine, but the losers are the only ones butt hurt into riots and eliminating an integral part of our election process....because they lost.....and are not happy with that.
So they whine and bitch.
Also lets recount CA.
originally posted by: wdkirk
Folks still can't believe trump won. The media and Hillary and her supporters were just soooooo sure she would win. she did not win. Some of her own party were against her. Doesn't matter what I wanted. She lost. Time to get on down the road. Let's see what trump can and can't do. I for one am not worried.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: ketsuko
Well good luck with that to them. They are going to have to do this and a shorter amount of time then Gore had. If I remember correctly part of Bush's argument was that the Constitution called for a specific day for those electoral votes to be cast. So say early next week they file. Trump's lawyers wait for a couple of days and then file an appeal. Stein's lawyers then have to file an appeal with the Supreme Court. What end up happening is that Stein's lawyers either win or lose but the whole electoral process is cast into disarray for a candidate that can even assume to get even 3% of the vote. Is this woman really ready to discredit her whole party for posterity just for a couple of million dollars from the Clinton campaign?