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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Arcturian8

Those arguments aren't petty. They are true. r/The_Donald initiated this shameful fiasco. Petty would be me pointing out that the sentence in which you call my arguments petty mixes the singular and plural case in a way that's not grammatically correct. But let's look at your list.



- twittergate
- redditgate


It's almost as though you think you can just append "gate" to anything and thereby generate legitimate controversy. What exactly do you mean by Twittergate? Sources? Redditgate, so far as I can tell, has one element of legitimacy: that the CEO edited a post. That's a pretty serious transgression in my opinion. But the notion that these baseless accusations are true does not follow from his lack of self control in that regard.



- Epstein (a known pedophile) flight logs connected to trump and clintons as well as many other elite Hollywood stars and government officials


This is called conflation. It has absolutely nothing to do with Comet Ping Pong.



- satanic references and associations in podesta emails affiliated to podesta


1) Like what?

2) So what?



- the very strange child torture art work on display at comet ping pong


Prove this is true. Most of the things the perpetuators of #PizzaGate have been saying to this point have been patently false.



- the santanic bands playing at comet pizza, a place where children often go, which are affiliated with child sex symbolism


It's a music venue. There's a lot of music that revels in dark imagery and making sanctimonious Christians uncomfortable. The correct reaction is to sigh and move on.



- the FBI pedophilia connection code word similarities from podesta emails


When you're talking about something like "cheese pizza", everyone who eats pizza is suddenly demonstrably a pedophile. You need to find something very compelling, quote it, source it, and explain your argument if you want to be taken seriously by rationally minded people.



- the connections Laura sillsby has with alefentis


This Laura Sillsby?

www.reuters.com...

What connections? What do you think she has done wrong?



- the santanic ritual pictures of alefentis


What pictures? Where?

Let's recap:

Make a logically consistent argument. Provide sources for extraordinary claims. Be more like a detective and less like the people who used to burn witches.
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim


What exactly do you mean by Twittergate?

To put it simply, that is about allegations of illegal pornography being located on Twitter, as well as the apparent suspensions and ghost bans of people reporting it. As to what's true and what's not I don't know, but their shares certainly took a hit afterwards so I for one would call that news.


Sources?

Twitter Inc (NYSE:TWTR) Is Fighting an Uphill Battle


Redditgate, so far as I can tell, has one element of legitimacy: that the CEO edited a post.

That part is indisputable, but closing an entire sub is also rather controversial given the topic.


It's a music venue. There's a lot of music that revels in dark imagery and making sanctimonious Christians uncomfortable. The correct reaction is to sigh and move on.

Have you even watched the video of Heavy Breathing/Majestic Ape? If so, can you honestly say that it is normal? Would you honestly let your children sleep somewhere if you knew a band was performing in that kind of manner?


What do you think she has done wrong?

Laura Sillsby, having been charged with child trafficking, is not my idea of somebody who should be involved with children in any capacity whatsoever. I'm baffled as to why you even asked that question after linking to the story.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: Arcturian8

Those arguments aren't petty. They are true. r/The_Donald initiated this shameful fiasco. Petty would be me pointing out that the sentence in which you call my arguments petty mixes the singular and plural case in a way that's not grammatically correct. But let's look at your list.



- twittergate
- redditgate


It's almost as though you think you can just append "gate" to anything and thereby generate legitimate controversy. What exactly do you mean by Twittergate? Sources? Redditgate, so far as I can tell, has one element of legitimacy: that the CEO edited a post. That's a pretty serious transgression in my opinion. But the notion that these baseless accusations are true does not follow from his lack of self control in that regard.



- Epstein (a known pedophile) flight logs connected to trump and clintons as well as many other elite Hollywood stars and government officials


This is called conflation. It has absolutely nothing to do with Comet Ping Pong.



- satanic references and associations in podesta emails affiliated to podesta


1) Like what?

2) So what?



- the very strange child torture art work on display at comet ping pong


Prove this is true. Most of the things the perpetuators of #PizzaGate have been saying to this point have been patently false.



- the santanic bands playing at comet pizza, a place where children often go, which are affiliated with child sex symbolism


It's a music venue. There's a lot of music that revels in dark imagery and making sanctimonious Christians uncomfortable. The correct reaction is to sigh and move on.



- the FBI pedophilia connection code word similarities from podesta emails


When you're talking about something like "cheese pizza", everyone who eats pizza is suddenly demonstrably a pedophile. You need to find something very compelling, quote it, source it, and explain your argument if you want to be taken seriously by rationally minded people.



- the connections Laura sillsby has with alefentis


This Laura Sillsby?

www.reuters.com...

What connections? What do you think she has done wrong?



- the santanic ritual pictures of alefentis


What pictures? Where?

Let's recap:

Make a logically consistent argument. Provide sources for extraordinary claims. Be more like a detective and less like the people who used to burn witches.


Little advice for you: you're arguments come off as weak when you start your posts off with spelling and sentence structure critique. I'm a scientist, and grammar was never my strength in college. If you want to start a new thread about your concerns regarding proper use of grammar on ats, knock yourself out.

Regarding twittergate you're going to have to go over to twitter and search "twittergate". There is also an ats thread as well. I'm at a family gathering so don't have time to link right now. Redditgate was my term however you're going to have to look at the ats thread for more detail.

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.

We re not just talking about comet ping pong. This investigation has expanded quite a bit. Please try to keep up.

Yes the podesta emails link podesta with a prominent satanic "spirit cooker". You're going to have research that too. There are ats threads and twitter info. Mainstream media also has a couple articles too.

Search twitter for alefantis picture.

Search Laura silsby and alefantis. Go to the link on the first post of this thread. Others have also linked summaries of the investigation on this thread.

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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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a reply to: Arcturian8


This is so big its a Paradigm shift for the average voter. When your reality gets shaken the first reaction is denial. Just go through the facts in a forensic way. Any reasonable person has to come to the conclusion that their is enough circumstantial evidence for an inquiry. Owing to the sensitivity regarding the national security, its got to be handled, quietly. If its not handled then we have a totalitarian regime, the consequences of that are more disturbing.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.


Let us know when you're available to hold our hands. I'll put on some lipstick and break out some hurtcore paintings.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Arcturian8

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.


Let us know when you're available to hold our hands. I'll put on some lipstick and break out some hurtcore paintings.



These are basic search engine functions. When I get home will try to post some links to help you out too. Really don't appreciate the condescension.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Arcturian8

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.


Let us know when you're available to hold our hands. I'll put on some lipstick and break out some hurtcore paintings.



These are basic search engine functions. When I get home will try to post some links to help you out too. Really don't appreciate the condescension.


You give and you get.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8

originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: Arcturian8

Those arguments aren't petty. They are true. r/The_Donald initiated this shameful fiasco. Petty would be me pointing out that the sentence in which you call my arguments petty mixes the singular and plural case in a way that's not grammatically correct. But let's look at your list.



- twittergate
- redditgate


It's almost as though you think you can just append "gate" to anything and thereby generate legitimate controversy. What exactly do you mean by Twittergate? Sources? Redditgate, so far as I can tell, has one element of legitimacy: that the CEO edited a post. That's a pretty serious transgression in my opinion. But the notion that these baseless accusations are true does not follow from his lack of self control in that regard.



- Epstein (a known pedophile) flight logs connected to trump and clintons as well as many other elite Hollywood stars and government officials


This is called conflation. It has absolutely nothing to do with Comet Ping Pong.



- satanic references and associations in podesta emails affiliated to podesta


1) Like what?

2) So what?



- the very strange child torture art work on display at comet ping pong


Prove this is true. Most of the things the perpetuators of #PizzaGate have been saying to this point have been patently false.



- the santanic bands playing at comet pizza, a place where children often go, which are affiliated with child sex symbolism


It's a music venue. There's a lot of music that revels in dark imagery and making sanctimonious Christians uncomfortable. The correct reaction is to sigh and move on.



- the FBI pedophilia connection code word similarities from podesta emails


When you're talking about something like "cheese pizza", everyone who eats pizza is suddenly demonstrably a pedophile. You need to find something very compelling, quote it, source it, and explain your argument if you want to be taken seriously by rationally minded people.



- the connections Laura sillsby has with alefentis


This Laura Sillsby?

www.reuters.com...

What connections? What do you think she has done wrong?



- the santanic ritual pictures of alefentis


What pictures? Where?

Let's recap:

Make a logically consistent argument. Provide sources for extraordinary claims. Be more like a detective and less like the people who used to burn witches.


Little advice for you: you're arguments come off as weak when you start your posts off with spelling and sentence structure critique. I'm a scientist, and English was never my strength in college. If you want to start a new thread about your concerns regarding proper use of grammar, knock yourself out.

Regarding twittergate you're going to have to go over to twitter and search "twittergate". There is also an ats thread as well. I'm at a family gathering so don't have time to link right now. Redditgate was my term however you're going to have to look at the ats thread for more detail.

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.

We re not just talking about comet ping pong. This investigation has expanded quite a bit. Please try to keep up.

Yes the podesta emails link podesta with a prominent satanic "spirit cooker". You're going to have research that too. There are ats threads and twitter info. Mainstream media also has a couple articles too.

Search twitter for alefantis picture.

Search Laura silsby and alefantis. Go to the link on the first post of this thread. Others have also linked summaries of the investigation on this thread.


You still look ignorant. Satanism strictly prohibits rape, in any form, and harm to children. Marina is a shock artist, I highly doubt she's actually a satanist, but if she is, that actually gives less credit to the claim of child molestation. Christianity condones child molestation more than satanism does.

If somebody replaced the word "guitar" in my emails with "child molestation", I'd look like a bad man.

Obama is a Chicago style hot dog and pizza aficionado. This is no secret. He fed his crew his favorite meals. There is some code word stuff going on with Podesta, but it sounds like drugs to me.

Most really rich people are on drugs. This is nothing new.
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8
Really don't appreciate the condescension.


Likewise.

For the record, I don't need your links, unless you have some compelling point you'd like to make. I've already read most everything that's been offered up on this subject.
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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Double.
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: LordAhriman


Satanism strictly prohibits rape, in any form, and harm to children.

You say that as though satanism is a perfectly legitimate thing to practice.


Christianity condones child molestation more than satanism does.

If anybody whom holds a position within the Church condones paedophilia in any way, shape or form, then they have deceived the Church. Christianity is all about the way of the Christ, now you go find me some scripture which tells us that it is permissible for children to have sex at all, let alone with adults. We certainly have a very clear indication that there is an organised effort to make harlots of our children, but do rest assured that it is not something which a real Christian would ever endorse or engage in.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: JohnnyElohim
To put it simply, that is about allegations of illegal pornography being located on Twitter, as well as the apparent suspensions and ghost bans of people reporting it. As to what's true and what's not I don't know, but their shares certainly took a hit afterwards so I for one would call that news.


Thanks for taking the time to explain your thinking. I think that the controversy is more about Twitter's struggle to properly police the platform in general and preventing abuse of the platform in terms of passing around illicit material like child pornography is one aspect of the struggle. I can see why investors would be concerned with their track record. They can't seem to reign in the abuse in a way that doesn't seriously upset a lot of people. I think saying this is about child pornography, however, is a bit of cherry picking.



That part is indisputable, but closing an entire sub is also rather controversial given the topic.


Their platform was being used for what can reasonably be described as a witch hunt. These are the grounds on which they closed it. I think they were right to do so.



Have you even watched the video of Heavy Breathing/Majestic Ape? If so, can you honestly say that it is normal? Would you honestly let your children sleep somewhere if you knew a band was performing in that kind of manner?


No. What exactly do you think it proves? Perhaps you could provide a link to the video you find relevant and explain what you think it tells us.



Laura Sillsby, having been charged with child trafficking, is not my idea of somebody who should be involved with children in any capacity whatsoever. I'm baffled as to why you even asked that question after linking to the story.


The story is very ambiguous. I think one can reasonably interpret from it that the Haitian government made an example of this group to demonstrate that they were serious about gaining control of the situation. What makes you think this has anything to do with organized child abuse? In what way is she connected to Comet Ping Pong?



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: LordAhriman


Satanism strictly prohibits rape, in any form, and harm to children.

You say that as though satanism is a perfectly legitimate thing to practice.


It most certainly is, ever heard of our first amendment?

I don't practice religion, but I know a lot of satanists. Every single one of them are peaceful, harmless, selfless people.

I can't say the same for Christians.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim

originally posted by: Arcturian8

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Arcturian8

Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.


Let us know when you're available to hold our hands. I'll put on some lipstick and break out some hurtcore paintings.



These are basic search engine functions. When I get home will try to post some links to help you out too. Really don't appreciate the condescension.


You give and you get.


Wake up sorry for the cap


THIS IS REAL LIFE FOLKS. WE ARE BEING MASS CENSORED. OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT IS INDIRECTLY BEING ACTIVELY BEING ATTACKED BY CENSORING AND CONTROLLING THE PLATFORMS THAT ALLOW FOR OUR DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION! Links below do not contain any CP. Evidence of ban: imgur.com... Other sources: imgur.com... imgur.com... imgur.com... Active Twitter Tags for 0hour and #TwitterGate: twitter.com... EDIT: The point is... why would Twitter allow accounts that have been tweeting child pornography with hundreds of other followers doing the same on their platform for more than 6 months ban someone so fast for exposing them? This is especially worrisome because all of this is also related to #PizzaGate which is not being allowed to trend even though it has enough organic tweets to trend. What are Twitter's priorities? EDIT2: MASSIVE 25,000 Twitter accounts associated and hosting child pornography dumped by gamer girl on a 3 hour whim scripting whim. docs.google.com... hP17kNYNX3ffm0YWJbE/htmlview#gid=879848743 I ASK AGAIN... WHAT ARE TWITTER's PRIORITIES? WHY IS PIZZAGATE NOT TRENDING?


Ho and the file is real got my first copy before they suspended her off Twitter mine has 14.6 K exlec
but it gone now and by next week most of what on twitter will disappear also
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: JohnnyElohim
Laura Sillsby, having been charged with child trafficking, is not my idea of somebody who should be involved with children in any capacity whatsoever. I'm baffled as to why you even asked that question after linking to the story.


The story is very ambiguous. I think one can reasonably interpret from it that the Haitian government made an example of this group to demonstrate that they were serious about gaining control of the situation. What makes you think this has anything to do with organized child abuse? In what way is she connected to Comet Ping Pong?



TextThe individual in question is one Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children’s Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.

Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura’s NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.

Sources:

https://__._/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://__._/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization:

https://__._/clinton-emails/emailid/2772

One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:

harvardhrj.com...

And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:

https://__._/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html

Even more disturbing, we uncovered an email in Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:

https://__._/clinton-emails/emailid/3741

Again, this was the same group that got busted by Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.

en.wikipedia.org...

They’re in the Clinton Emails;

https://__._/clinton-emails/emailid/3741



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8
Little advice for you: you're arguments come off as weak when you start your posts off with spelling and sentence structure critique. I'm a scientist, and grammar was never my strength in college. If you want to start a new thread about your concerns regarding proper use of grammar on ats, knock yourself out.


I'm surprised that, as a scientist, you're not very concerned with presenting evidence, arguing a case, or being logically consistent in general. You derided my logical argument as petty. I pointed out that picking at your grammar would be petty and you rightfully responded to it thusly. My argument, however, is anything but petty. We are living in dire times when an unprecedented amount of propaganda is circulating, much of which seems designed to push us towards fascism. I take this very seriously.



Regarding twittergate you're going to have to go over to twitter and search "twittergate". There is also an ats thread as well. I'm at a family gathering so don't have time to link right now. Redditgate was my term however you're going to have to look at the ats thread for more detail.


Another poster helpfully pointed to what is meant by this and I've commented in that reply as to my thoughts.



Sorry not in a position I can hold your hand explaining all of this right now.


I'm not asking for hand holding. I'm challenging the hysteria and listening for rational responses.



We re not just talking about comet ping pong. This investigation has expanded quite a bit. Please try to keep up.


I'm surprised a scientist would call this an "investigation". It is a witch hunt. The sheer number of lies that have shown up on the last several pages of this thread alone are alarming. The goal posts pop in and out of existence like subatomic particles in quantum foam. People bring up paintings in Europe to support accusations levied at the employees of Comet Ping Pong.

You say keep up, I say how about you act like a scientist and narrow the inquiry to a specific set of falsifiable claims so we can attack the theory.



Yes the podesta emails link podesta with a prominent satanic "spirit cooker". You're going to have research that too. There are ats threads and twitter info. Mainstream media also has a couple articles too.


Oh, I'm quite familiar with this hysteria, unrelated though it may be. You're staring at tea leaves and seeing Baphomet. Not very scientific.



Search twitter for alefantis picture.

Search Laura silsby and alefantis. Go to the link on the first post of this thread. Others have also linked summaries of the investigation on this thread.


You people are the ones making the outlandish claims. "Go educate yourself" is a cheap way of acknowledging that you cannot substantiate your argument.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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That's a lot of pictures of hysterical people making tall claims with no substantive evidence. I believe I saw one link that looked suggestive. Why should I believe you or them that these claims are accurate? I see "Citizen Deplorable" and I become suspicious of motives immediately. I would not at all be surprised if this was a disingenuous frame up performed by Trump-supporting far-right radicals because Twitter, like Facebook and pretty much every other successful silicon valley company, is overwhelmingly liberal in their sensibilities.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

I ask again, how is she connected to #PizzaGate? What in any of this implies pedophilia? To me she looks like an irresponsible and sanctimonious Christian who felt she was above the law and received some comeuppance for it.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: LordAhriman


Satanism strictly prohibits rape, in any form, and harm to children.

You say that as though satanism is a perfectly legitimate thing to practice.


It most certainly is, ever heard of our first amendment?

I don't practice religion, but I know a lot of satanists. Every single one of them are peaceful, harmless, selfless people.

I can't say the same for Christians.


Isn't it telling that one of the vocal proponents of this #PIzzaGate business is implying that freedom of religion shouldn't be a thing? Creeping fascism.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: Trillium

That's a lot of pictures of hysterical people making tall claims with no substantive evidence. I believe I saw one link that looked suggestive. Why should I believe you or them that these claims are accurate? I see "Citizen Deplorable" and I become suspicious of motives immediately. I would not at all be surprised if this was a disingenuous frame up performed by Trump-supporting far-right radicals because Twitter, like Facebook and pretty much every other successful silicon valley company, is overwhelmingly liberal in their sensibilities.


Ya guess your not interested in a real world data dump with 14.6 K name
Could it be that your name is on it ???????????????????????????????



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