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Reddit Pizzagate shut down

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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

You keep using the word hoax, but you do not know what it means. It is a conspiracy theory. For the most part there is not purposeful deception. You are the one claiming an investigation is a hoax before it can even be proven. This is why I threw a straw man at you. Because if you do not like an investigation it must be a hoax, because you feel so.

you have not debunked anything, claiming hoax is pointless.

you claimed it hurts the poor, where is it hurting the poor? how? show me your fact.

Of course people are receiving death threats, people are idiots, just like trump gets death threats, trump supporters get death threats, electors of the electoral college are getting death threats. I condemn everyone who sends death threats. All serious death threats should be investigated.
death threats do not mean we must shut any investigation of conspiracy theory down.

The straw man had its desired effect, to get you to beat on it without actually saying anything.




posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: talisman

That looks very fake. As stated already, it's virtually impossible to substantiate somebody's claims of downloading 2gb of illegal porn from WeThePizza without actually seeing it and thus breaking the law. Suffice to say, it's therefore extremely difficult to verify that image.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: jellyrev
a reply to: JohnnyElohim

You keep using the word hoax, but you do not know what it means. It is a conspiracy theory. For the most part there is not purposeful deception. You are the one claiming an investigation is a hoax before it can even be proven. This is why I threw a straw man at you. Because if you do not like an investigation it must be a hoax, because you feel so.

you have not debunked anything, claiming hoax is pointless.


Oh? So the fact that it is rather transparently a partisan political smear that originated on r/The_Donald and was composed in part of deceptions in the form of pictures have been harvested from social media accounts and then misrepresented as the strange contents of the owner's Instagram feed doesn't smack of hoax?

I've been watching far-right fascists pull tricks like these for many months now and the signature of their activity is easy to read and I think it's deeply unethical to contribute to a hysteria that hurts real people with baseless accusations.



you claimed it hurts the poor, where is it hurting the poor? how? show me your fact.


You're being obtuse. I made the point that employees of the restaurant are being harassed and threatened, and many people who work in food service are near the poverty line. These aspersions are damaging to the mental health, economic health, and reputation of everyone connected to Comet.



Of course people are receiving death threats, people are idiots, just like trump gets death threats, trump supporters get death threats, electors of the electoral college are getting death threats. I condemn everyone who sends death threats. All serious death threats should be investigated.
death threats do not mean we must shut any investigation of conspiracy theory down.

The straw man had its desired effect, to get you to beat on it without actually saying anything.


Simply because you choose to ignore the substantive elements of my argument does not mean they cease to exist.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

Okay, I didn't really want to post this but I will to make a point.


Is the woman throwing this symbol, per chance?


Honest question, give me an honest answer.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

Pizzagate originated on twitter from the leaked podesta emails. People saw in the emails code words commonly used in the online pedo community. From there dots were connected and things blew up and spread to reddit and 4chan.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

If you look through the podesta emails, you will see pedo related code words used in sentences that don't even make sense.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Gothlander

Of course, but I'm making a particular point about this picture. This one isn't from Wikileaks.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

In my opinion her gesture is quite common:

goo.gl/SF7vT7

(Google image search for "heart with hands".)

To be very technical, it's not as though her hands could mimic the recursive aspect of the second image, so we can't adequately guess at the intent: is this her approximating that symbol as closely as she can, or is she making a pedestrian heart symbol like the many in the Google image search? Statistical distribution suggests to me that the latter is far more likely.

There's my honest answer. What are your thoughts?



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

Fair enough, it's a reasonable way to put it. You could be right, I hope you are actually.

Now what if I told you that the woman is the mother of one of the children whom were pictured in Comet Ping Pong having a "sleep-over"?



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

Googling "Heart gesture" gives 25.4 million similar hits. I'd say that it doesn't mean anything.

It's like a thumbs-up or waving good-bye.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: booyakasha
why does every media outlet downplaying this have satanic ties or pedo ties or clinton foundation ties. Heres another forum on cannibalism at reddit.



Clearly it's because everyone in the world except for you and a few others are part of a ring of elite Satanic baby eating cult members.

I paid my dues this morning.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: JohnnyElohim

Okay, I didn't really want to post this but I will to make a point.
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Is the woman throwing this symbol, per chance?


Honest question, give me an honest answer.


Long before I ever heard of any of this Pizza-gate stuff or secret pedo-languages, I bought my wife a necklace with that EXACT double-heart symbol. That particular pattern is extremely common in women's jewelry, and a heart's a universal symbol of love.

She is saying, "I love you."
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posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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Rudy Juliani was caught covering up molested girls with lacerations on their vaginas.

archive.is...

This has been going on for a very long time. I am very skeptical of anyone in denial about this situation.

Had #pizzagate actually been a BS conspiracy theory, i don't think we would see so many people trying their hardest to debunk it with no actual debunking happening. Most of the time people who disagree with someone don't stick around for hours and days trying to debunk something that is "the dumbest conspiracy ever"

This is the big conspiracy that David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, Santos Bonacci, and Freemanperspective have all been talking about for years.

Now we are seeing leeks everywhere and people trying to cover their asses best as possible.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: JohnnyElohim

Fair enough, it's a reasonable way to put it. You could be right, I hope you are actually.

Now what if I told you that the woman is the mother of one of the children whom were pictured in Comet Ping Pong having a "sleep-over"?


As is usually the case, I would ask for you to explain yourself and provide citations.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Gothlander
a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

If you look through the podesta emails, you will see pedo related code words used in sentences that don't even make sense.


Feel free to provide some examples. I've read everything that's out there, as far as I know, and I didn't see anything directly relate-able to a known pedo code.

The closest thing was the word handkerchief, which is actually part of a code for gay guys, not pedophiles. And the way it's used, it doesn't appear to be used in a fashion consistent with that code.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

We're talking about a Jewish political editor here - I'm not citing my sources.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: booyakasha
I am very skeptical of anyone in denial about this situation.

Had #pizzagate actually been a BS conspiracy theory, i don't think we would see so many people trying their hardest to debunk it with no actual debunking happening. Most of the time people who disagree with someone don't stick around for hours and days trying to debunk something that is "the dumbest conspiracy ever"


Now we are seeing leeks everywhere and people trying to cover their asses best as possible.


So just to be clear, are you accusing me and others in this thread of being part of the pedo ring, or employed by it?



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: booyakasha

You do realize that it's probably a cognitive defect to interpret the existence of evidence to the contrary of your positions as evidence of your unassailability, right?



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Greggers

no not saying that. But i wouldn't hang out with you real life, thats for sure.



posted on Nov, 24 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: JohnnyElohim

We're talking about a Jewish political editor here - I'm not citing my sources.


So, you're asking me to speak to something you assert to be true with no evidence whatsoever, and I'm supposed to understand that's legitimate because Jews? Are you an anti-Semite? Honest question.




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