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Here’s what I have to say to American liberals and leftists: instead of listening to the strategists, who don’t believe it’s possible to dramatically change our society, can we finally be bold and listen to the artists and the outsiders and the radicals and the freaks and the avant-garde and the base and the youth and the anarchists and all those who don't want to do business as usual with the limousine liberalism of both the elite Democrats and Republicans? Can we listen to the dreamers instead of the doubters?
This is the dream of solidarity and coalition among the down and out that the leadership of the Democratic Party has abandoned, favoring instead a chummy cosmopolitanism with the globe-trotting financial brokers whose ultimate allegiance is to capitalism, not to country. The white majority has chosen white identity politics and rejected this, but our response should not be more anemic liberalism or our own version of a limited identity politics.
Trump has led a revolution, but it will not be the kind that leads to a more just society. The version he offers is the strongman’s revolution, executed from the top in the name of those on the bottom. Even as they are entertained by the spectacle of a shoot-from-the-hip president and by the scapegoating of undocumented immigrants, even as they yawn at the videos of black people shot dead, they will not likely see genuine economic change, for it is doubtful that a strongman can or will create more and better jobs for them. A strong man, by definition, respects other strong men, not the weakness of the masses or of women.
originally posted by: underwerks
The white majority has chosen white identity politics and rejected this, but our response should not be more anemic liberalism or our own version of a limited identity politics
scapegoating of undocumented immigrants,
they yawn at the videos of black people shot dead,
I see a return to classic liberal values, and a movement away from identity politics.
originally posted by: LifeMode
Choose your words wisely is all I can say. Everyone who has attacked Trump got weaker while he got stronger. Journalism is suppose to be objective in that it does not form an opinion, only forms facts and let's the reader decide.
A good example of this is when Hillary said during the debate to use fact checker on Trump. It sounds like a great idea on the surface but dig deeper and it is a LW attack dog.
Fact checker uses a meter, it doesn't say if something is true or false. Like Hillary stealing items from the WH which she did and had to return those items. This is the fact checker determination:
There is a grain of truth to this claim, but we found multiple problems -- the amount is off, and "stolen" is an inaccurate word to describe Clinton’s actions. Also, despite the graphic's use of the word "force," it’s important to note that law enforcement did not come into play in this episode
Do you see the bias? "grain of truth" "amount off". It's this kind of journalism that angers people and one of the main reasons she lost. Keep doing it and it will be impossible for Democrats to ever recover.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: underwerks
The white majority has chosen white identity politics and rejected this, but our response should not be more anemic liberalism or our own version of a limited identity politics
White people! amirite!!!
scapegoating of undocumented immigrants,
This just in, illegal aliens will now be referred to as "undocumented immigrants"
also, crack dealers are now just "undocumented pharmacists"
they yawn at the videos of black people shot dead,
that's what happens when you attack police, yep.
But when that isn't the case, outrage is across the board. cameras on cops!
sadly the big blm martyrs are almost all a bunch of thugs trying to kill cops...you don't attack police, that's how you get shot.
I see a return to classic liberal values, and a movement away from identity politics.
From the article you put forward, not off to a good start given its almost exclusively buried in identity politics.
looks like its gonna be 8 years of this nonsense. doubling down...yeah, the liberals woke up indeed..and voted for Trump to send a message or actively chose not to vote.
originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's obvious were going to need a "Safe Space Crybaby" Forum added for all the posters who still can't cope with Trump winning the election.
What you're actually experiencing is an echo chamber.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: underwerks
The co-opting of the liberal label was one of the travesties of 20th century progressivism. It's good to see that some are interested in taking it back from the far left.
originally posted by: underwerks
Actually it'll be 4 years. 4 short years. I respect your opinion, but reality doesn't agree with you.
originally posted by: LifeMode
Choose your words wisely is all I can say. Everyone who has attacked Trump got weaker while he got stronger. Journalism is suppose to be objective in that it does not form an opinion, only forms facts and let's the reader decide.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: underwerks
How anyone can claim that Trump's presidency will be the catalyst to divisiveness or an unjust society is speaking out of ignorance as to what's happened in the last eight years.
These type of predictive op-ed pieces do nothing but fuel hatred in and of themselves--the author is fear-mongering to those most apt to believe such soothsaying (the apathetic youth who might find this cross their social-media feed), and if these dire predictions come true, I will chock it up to being a self-fulfilling prophecy more than the way that it would have naturally happened, because these media types have been feeding this nonsense into Americans' heads since this past election cycle started, and now that Trump won, they are in overdrive trying to scare people into believing this stuff.
Here's a novel idea--let's wait and see how the Trump presidency shapes up before we start prematurely ejaculating such nonsensical ramblings. Not one person that I know who classifies themselves as 'conservative' "yawns at videos of black people shot dead" or want's a "shoot-from-the-hip president," nor are the "entertained...by the scapegoating of undocumented immigrants."
There are myriad 'creatives' around the country who hold libertarian ideals, too--the implication that most are classic liberals is, in my experience (and I hold a BFA in Graphic Design), being too kind. Most of whom with which I have interacted are super-progressive, divisive individuals, more than one of whom called me out as racist when I would speak out against Obama's policies, or completely base their opinions on feeling more than logic or facts. I literally had a professor tell me that he didn't want me participating in classroom critiques because when I called out problems with design (backed with reason and logic as to why I saw it as a problem), it would hurt some students' feelings. This professor is now the head of that art department.
So, the prospect of reinvigorating such a voting bloc does not, to me, represent a resurgence of classic liberalism, but instead a larger group of vitriolic, divisive people, no matter what their political ideology.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology that values the freedom of individuals — including the freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and markets — as well as limited government. It developed in 18th-century Europe and drew on the economic writings of Adam Smith and the growing notion of social progress.