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Richard Branson's Virgin to bankroll secret Blairite campaign to stop Brexit

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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:15 AM
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I saw this article in The Independent yesterday and thought I'd share it.
I have had a feeling for some time that there were some powerful figures conspiring to delay or block the Brexit vote entirely for their own political or financial reasons, and now it seems they are coming out and stating their goals quite openly. No surprise then that figures such as Blair and Branson are at the forefront.


Richard Branson’s Virgin Group is to help bankroll a campaign set up in secret by Blairite former ministers and advisers to derail Brexit, The Independent can reveal.

An email seen by The Independent highlights the scale of backing the group has already secured. It shows the campaign has been months in the planning and claims “substantial progress” has already been made, including the identification of “an excellent potential CEO”. The memo was written by Alan Milburn, who was one of Tony Blair’s closest cabinet allies.


www.independent.co.uk...

This article comes just a couple of days after another article in The Independent that mentioned the moves by Blair to get back into the political sphere (as if he ever left) and moves to secure an operating base and move up to 130 people into a city based HQ.

Being the questioning type, I immediately wondered who could be bankrolling such a move (Blair wouldn't be spending his own ill gotten cash) and who these 130 people would be?
Well, now it seems a bit clearer with Branson involved, and I wonder what other financial backers are in the mix too, as yet unnamed.

Outside of the political and banking elites, Blair is, for the most part, despised by the ordinary people in the street - the taxpayers - so I can imagine there would be hell to pay if they tried inserting him back into any leadership role. But, unfortunately, that sure doesn't seem to have stopped them in the past.




posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:32 AM
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It will fail. The electorate will not allow, nor be deprived of their democracy unless the UK wants a civil war! Futile!



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:38 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
It will fail. The electorate will not allow, nor be deprived of their democracy unless the UK wants a civil war! Futile!


Do you really think the electorate would rise up if the decision was reversed? i don't think they would TBQH, there would be grumblings sure but apart from that, not much else.

Don't get me wrong, these "ELITE" tossers who number in the hundreds, trying to overturn a majority decision really pisses me off, obviously only in it for themselves. I used to respect Branson, not anymore.

Cameron knew what he was doing anyway, allowing the result to be "advisory" only ...... that's why he ran away, to let other elite cronies to pick up the pieces and try and "fix" it



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:39 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

Here is my take on this.

I am left leaning politically, and believe that a British exit from the European Union is the only way to take external support away from our current government, weakening them enough that they cannot possibly retain their power. Once that has happened, it is my deepest wish, my hope, and my expectation, that a strongly left leaning government, a Labour government under Corbyn, can be put in its place, which will be able to operate without interference from the EU.

There is another thing to consider. Currently the EU is suffering a crisis not of radical Muslim invasion, as Le Penn and her idiot bretheren would suggest, but of right wing extremism growing like the old cancer it is, in the heartlands of nations which should know much better than to allow it. Saxony is rife with white supremacy, the like of which has not been seen since the 1930s, as are areas of France.

These individuals must not be permitted to connect with the white supremacists in our nation, and create links which bolster both. If cutting certain ties with the EU will reduce the power that governments there (which I only see sliding further right as time wears on) have to influence our government, then that is all to the good.

I see the EU government as a corporatocracy which renders it an enemy of any left leaning individual, and furthermore as a catalyst for the rise of the right, who are reacting to a genuine problem, in a historically predictable but entirely illegitimate fashion.

Now... Blair and his ilk have ruined the left in this country previously, and allowing their muck to come back into the fold, allowing them back into the public consciousness as anything other than a marker of how NOT to do Labour politics, would be an error so enormous that it beggars belief, precisely because Tony Blair is NOT a left wing political entity, but a right wing, crusader psychopath, who has proven that he can lie his way into anything, including the leadership of a party with which he shares no common bond, and into the hearts and minds of people who have nothing in common with him either.

This situation that you have bought before us today, is easily one of the most concerning things I have heard this month, right up there with the tyrannical overreach that Mays Conservatives have enacted with regard to the internet and mass surveillance. I am confident of only one thing these days. The more we are controlled, the less reasonable we will become. That might seem fine, create balance in "the force" if you will, but I have noticed a tendency on the part of the unenlightened to swing right when they are under threat, when they should trench ever deeper into their labour values, if they hold any.

This is one of the most dangerous times to be a British citizen, that I can remember in a very long time, and it is becoming increasingly clear that some pretty drastic measures are going to have to be implemented at some stage, to cancel the power that is being wielded over us at the moment. This nonsense must end. The faux left must never speak for anything or anyone, ever again.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:43 AM
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Margerate Thatcher count tie the Peasants

To the fields anymore, So she tied them to

Their Mortgagees instead.


The Elite as they class themselves, Cant get there head around the Fact that this was a class vote

We the average " Joe " Voted out to cleanse the Political system off these Parasites.

130 Dubious Non elected Huffing no marks are not going to make the slightest difference to the peoples mind-set.

We want are system back we want are Liberty back,


Fox.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Britguy

to cancel the power that is being wielded over us at the moment.


TrueBrit, do you really think "the power" will be cancelled under a different Government? show me how many times something like this has been overturned / abolished when a new government comes to power. I'm struggling to find any



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:50 AM
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originally posted by: Britguy
Outside of the political and banking elites, Blair is, for the most part, despised by the ordinary people in the street - the taxpayers - so I can imagine there would be hell to pay if they tried inserting him back into any leadership role. But, unfortunately, that sure doesn't seem to have stopped them in the past.


Tony Blair? a poison chalice by any ones estimation ....


I don't know where he gets the effrontery from.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

You make a valid point.

However, taking into account what has already come to pass, would you trust Theresa May with the power to edit what you may and may not see on the net? I would not.

Furthermore, if we do not at least TRY to make things as they should be, even if we are thwarted every time, then we cannot even say, when asked about our nations government "This is nothing to do with us. We tried, we bloody tried, but they stiffed us, again. Look it up.".

If we make damned sure that things like this cannot happen without more than just public outcry, but headline grabbing responses which cannot be easily brushed aside or buried, then there will be a marker for other nations, and our future generations, which will allow all who bear witness to it, to understand that there is something larger than the will of the people at play, that our citizens are not in control, that there is not a democracy in operation in this country but a tyranny, and that would remind everyone from our friends to our enemies, that however you wish to treat our government, you should know that our government is as much the enemy of its people, as is anything else in the world.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:57 AM
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originally posted by: Britguy
Outside of the political and banking elites, Blair is, for the most part, despised by the ordinary people in the street - the taxpayers - so I can imagine there would be hell to pay if they tried inserting him back into any leadership role.


They're just so bloody unimaginative. Branson, particularly, I'd expect a little more, has his inspiration run dry or is he just getting old and frightened? The mind boggles. Not least in the mind's of those of us who didn't vote Brexit. Still remains however that the voting majority did, is Blair really going to speak to those people? I'm far from interested in anything Blair has to say. Blair says whatever he is paid to say by whomever is, at any given time, paying him to say it. His 'service' as Prime Minister being the exception to prove the rule. Perhaps Virgin can redeem even an old whore like Blair, I'd be surprised if Blair is able to bring himself to the fore of the level of direct face to face conversations with a disgruntled members of the public that such a role could lead to. That'd take a lot of backbone and genuine feeling on his part. I don't fancy those odds. I expect, more likely, that Blair's involvement would be bankers and businessmen, that's where his contact-list will benefit them.

I'd still want Blair to address one or two key questions about his integrity while in office before he was again given access to any office. I don't see it as a possibility, not back into elected government, but there are still spheres of power in governance that operate outside of the democratic process, the permanent civil service, for example. His finding a place amongst those ranks would be more along par for the course.




edit on 22-11-2016 by Anaana because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

however,

I didn't see any public outcry when these surveillance / internet / CCTV / stealthy ANPR / Phone records retention etc etc, policies were being pushed through Parliament.

Unless you keep up to speed with what is happening in Parliament, what is being discussed, what is on the agenda, visiting our local MP's surgeries etc, we, the general populous only hear about it when it has been "passed" into law, we then grumble a little bit then move on



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:06 AM
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a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Hey, I am with you all the way there.

I think the main issue here is awareness more than anything else. If we remain aware of what is going on and coming up, then we can combat it more effectively and promote activism against it.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: Anaana
I'd still want Blair to address one or two key questions about his integrity while in office before he was again given access to any office. I don't see it as a possibility, not back into elected government, but there are still spheres of power in governance that operate outside of the democratic process, the permanent civil service, for example. His finding a place amongst those ranks would be more along par for the course.




Blair has the 'mark of the EU' on him .... That is the only place he holds court or

credibility, therefore his desperation to thwart *Brexit* and keep the UK in.

He is terrified of obscurity .... who is Blair without a position


A NOBODY



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:21 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

More than a poison chalice; he's up there with the leeches who benefited from the turmoil created by them in the invasion of the Middle East. Enemies of the common man, murderers of millions.

www.sourcewatch.org...:Carlyle_Group


Report: Tony Blair to Join Carlyle Group - In news from Britain, the Sunday Mirror is reporting that Prime Minister Tony Blair is expected to join the U.S.-based investment giant Carlyle Group after he leaves Downing Street. Nicknamed the Ex-President's Club, the investment firm already has on staff former President Bush, former British Prime Minister John Major and former secretary of state James Baker.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:21 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia
He is terrified of obscurity .... who is Blair without a position



Who are any of them? We live in the world where it takes claws to get to the top. That kind of ambition doesn't go well with self-reflection. Can you imagine the 'demons' that might invade their minds were they to bring them into 'mindfulness' on a daily basis? Heaven forbid, they might even develop some empathy for the collateral damage. Now that really wouldn't do.



Still, that's the system for you.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

You would not want it to be any way else, now, would you? Unless you are in favour of extreme methodologies, that explicitedly forbid anything that was not dictated by the party in charge..

What happens here seems quite normal to me: this is simply democracy in action. Because democracy is more than just voting and parliament - as the "Brexiteers" themselves so aptly point out whenever the need arises (and even if it does not). It includes ADVISORY referendums, social upheaval, demonstrations, companies that push their agenda's, labour groups and trade groups chiming in etc. etc. - all so that in the end PARLIAMENT and the House of Lords will be able to decide. That's what is happening now.

Don't forget: roughly half of the Brits (and in many parts of the UK - more) are against Brexit. Plenty whom voted "out" would gladly reconsider, given the samples of leadership provided by your pro-Brexit politicians as of lately. The Courts also recently decided against invoking chapter 50 without consent of parliament - and we all know where parliament stands - on EU soil.

So, you're not out yet to say the least.

Movements like that adressed by OP are simply part of a socio-political movement of disgruntled Brits that feel THEIR rights have been taken away from them.

BTW: I must admit to have smiled reading TrueBrits IMHO somewhat naive but nevertheless sympathetic opinion that it might well come to pass that the UK would be a socialist republic of sorts after the Brexit. I don't think that will happen: the right wing is very strong in the UK and will no doubt try to eliminate TB's Keynesian ideas. No state should ever meddle with business in their eyes.

But one can always hope. The Socialist Union under the Queen, long may she live! Hip hip!

edit on 22-11-2016 by ForteanOrg because: he made spelling errors.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite
It will fail. The electorate will not allow, nor be deprived of their democracy unless the UK wants a civil war! Futile!


Do you really think the electorate would rise up if the decision was reversed? i don't think they would TBQH, there would be grumblings sure but apart from that, not much else.
Don't get me wrong, these "ELITE" tossers who number in the hundreds, trying to overturn a majority decision really pisses me off, obviously only in it for themselves. I used to respect Branson, not anymore.

Cameron knew what he was doing anyway, allowing the result to be "advisory" only ...... that's why he ran away, to let other elite cronies to pick up the pieces and try and "fix" it
UK history is my judge. You would see protests like you have never seen since Cromwell! This would be the straw that broke the awaken lion's back!!
Cameron got it all wrong. The Labour party under Milliband new it would be risky to offer a referendum! I predicted that BREXIT would win months before the vote. See my ongoing thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: Britguy

Part of me would like to see this happen.

It would be interesting to see how the electorate would react.

Would it be an opportunity for 'the people' to assert its authority over Parliament, to reform its outdated and restrictive party political system and to begin the process of stripping the established elite of its stranglehold over UK society?



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: ForteanOrg

Don't forget: roughly half of the Brits (and in many parts of the UK - more) are against Brexit.


And in many parts of the UK more voted for OUT too....

And less than half in total voted to 'remain''?



Plenty whom voted "out" would gladly reconsider, given the samples of leadership provided by your pro-Brexit politicians as of lately.


Sources??

Because from where I am that is definatley not the case!!




The Courts also recently decided against invoking chapter 50 without consent of parliament - and we all know where parliament stands - on EU soil.


NOT FOR LONG!!


So, you're not out yet to say the least.


To say the least *WE WILL BE OUT*



Movements like that adressed by OP are simply part of a socio-political movement of disgruntled Brits that feel THEIR rights have been taken away from them.


They were, and they (the people) intend to get them back .... like the US?

People are realising that they do have the power, and intend to use it. In all

the recent elections more people have used their votes ... there is less and

less inertia among the voting public these days.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: eletheiaDon't you mean a rich nobody. In reply to Truebrit, I think that the brexit vote was more to do with a vote of no confidence in the Conservative party and the people thought that a brexit vote would lead to a general election. I also think that the people were lied to about coming out of the EU. Nearly all of the information given out by the brexiteers have vanished in the smoke and mirrors. So many million to the NHS (gone), regaining our borders (we never, ever lost our borders), regaining our sovereignty ( we never lost our sovereignty), stopping immigration (immigration was always on our government to ratify not purely an EU directive), the list goes on and on.
I also think David Cameron was never in the frame for staying in, I think that he was part of a campaign to get a brexit vote by muddying the waters of the stayers.
As for Blair, I always though he was a closet Conservative. He certainly was not for the working class and his tenure in the Labour party he filled it with like minded people and it will take a while to rid the party of these new age Labour (soft Conservatives) people before we have a true Labour party again.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

UK history is my judge. You would see protests like you have never seen since Cromwell! This would be the straw that broke the awaken lion's back!!


Vacancy for a NEW *Guy Fawkes*

The people are revolting



Cameron got it all wrong. The Labour party under Milliband new it would be risky to offer a referendum!





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