David Icke's Matrix Theory

The only ICke book i've completely read was 'Alice in Wonderland and 9/11'. However I've recently completed 'The Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot and from the authors initial post, I can see many parellels with David Icke's 'Matrix Reality' and the 'Holographic Universe'.

For those of you that havent read 'The Holographic Universe', I suggest you go out and buy it. It will defintely change your world view. I managed to finish the 300+ book in a couple of days. However, for those that arent going to rush to their nearest B&N, let me give you a extremly brief breakdown.

In the book the theory of a Holographic Mind as well as a Holographic Universe is proposed. So in reality, we would be a hologram living within a hologram. I'm sure you've heard of the Fish tank/Camera as this is one of the most known analogies of the Holographic Universe (If not, do a quick search on ATS).

However in a nutshell, our universe is better explained and understood if our reality was actually a hologram. Law of Parisomony at its best.

[edit on 3/7/2005 by Simulacra]

Originally posted by mickmeaney
Jon Ronson met Icke, for his book THEM, and his TV series Secret Rulers of the World.. according to Ronson, Icke had an affair with the babysitter, split with his wife and went nuts claimng the be the son of God.

HAHAHAHA if ever there was an illuminati Agent here it would be you.....

Originally posted by paranoia

Originally posted by Logical_M
Icke writes fiction and uses it to replace his reality, because it's the only way he survives. The idea that we all exist in a plane controlled by technology even remotely fathomable to humans is laughable.

Oh dear. Time and time again those most opposed to Icke's work, or those that comment so against it, clearly show they haven't read any of it. Read before you post, please. He is well researched, he presents lots of sources, and he explicitly says he doesn't care whether you believe him or not. The Matrix theory doesn't refer to us being plugged into computers.

[edit on 6-3-2005 by paranoia]

I am quite familiar with Icke's work. His only evidence for some of his far-out theories is the lack of evidence they aren't true from his critics. Maybe all of his advocates should read some of his articles, they're quite entertaining. It's like when someone says there IS a god just because we can't proof he doesn't exist.

Originally posted by Logical_M
I am quite familiar with Icke's work. His only evidence for some of his far-out theories is the lack of evidence they aren't true from his critics. Maybe all of his advocates should read some of his articles, they're quite entertaining.

It's like when someone says there IS a god just because we can't proof he doesn't exist.

Not really true, he uses sources which he names and references countless other materials. Care to quote where he has said "it must be true because we cant proof it doesnt exist?". If he had said that, i would have stopped reading a long time ago. You are quite familiar? Ok.

Well, I find his theory very well researched and creative. I applaud him for doing something so bold as to contradict many religions. For this, many critisize his ideas and I think that he is a very interesting person we can all learn something from. Although his theory is very, as some call it, "outrageous" I find it very believable except for one factor. Pain. In my opinion, that is so uncontrollable, it can not be simulated. But, everything else I completely agree with. First, people say that it would have to be an extremely advanced computer to create a flawless 3d world. How do we know its flawless. This is the only thing we know of, other than 2d. For all we know of, this could be a very basic program.
The second question is, if we were a program controlled by someone else, would we question this? My reponse is that the program has been "aborted" inefficiently. that would explain evolution, flaws in people such as mental disease and suicidal thoughts.
My question now is if we program a "being" to react to a certain event or other action, would that be fear? The survival instinct? Would that be a matrix like ours? Is the theory crazy or are people too faithful to religion?

I can attest to this theory. All my life growng up, I used to stare off into space or into the distances at 5 -8 years old while other kids played. I inherently knew something was "up" at that age but couldn't figure it out. Later in life in my early 20's I became a Christian Mystic and had the most profound spiritual awakenings I ever thought possible. These experiences freed me from the grip of the illusion and allowed my a peak behind "the curtain," so to speak.

It was only since then that I have realized that many of these conspiracies you read about and people who have been killed (stan meyer, philip schnieder, willam cooper auther of Behold the Pale horse) ring truth.

Spiritual awakenings and leaving the physical body at physical deah are the only two ways out of the hell hole that's about to be put in place on our globe

Down with Icke. I'm sooo sick with his schtick. It's sooo predictable.

Step 1: Get a crackpot idea.
Step 2: Write book based on crackpot idea.
Step 3: Get crackpot idea laughed at.
Step 4: Lose interest in crackpot idea once you've made enough money on book.
Step 5: Return to step 1.

Originally posted by Illuminous
Yeah I have experienced 13 shape-shifters at the foot of my bed, and they told me that David Icke was Christ and that we should all worship him

Dude Icke is a looney and a fraud and a tool of the NWO. I cant prove this, but thats my theory. Yes, he has some intersting points, but anyone can see what he explains in their everyday life. I see the illusion we live. But I dont see Icke's illusion, I see a deeper illusion than he does with his reptilian nonsense. Its far more complex than a race of reptoids controling the 13 elite families, its about Satan's war against God, and the illusion is the mask than Satan has put over all of this world. Its all about God vs. Satan. Thats what this whole "Matrix of evil" is. Dont be fooled by folks like Icke who are trying to make people look the other way, when they really need to turn to Christ.

Just my 2 cents.

I love to hear people criticize someones work they have never read.I am a David Icke follower myself but could see where some people might not be.Regardless how crazy it is ,it dont touch how cracy the bible is.Where exactly did Satan come from hum...thats right god/christ.But then again god turned off his "all knowing powers" when he made him and didnt know he would become pure evil.Even though when he did realize this, Satan was no longer good enough to live by his side in heaven (understandable).So what does he do with this pure evil being.Cast him out of heaven but not to hell (the place we all go if this master of manipulation who can literally take over our minds ,create illusions we can see with our own 2 eyes,create 100s of thousands of false religions),he also wasent sent somewhere by himself or among other evil beings b/c he was the first,but down here to good ole earth,where all Gods loved ones/children would be soon to live.This is kind of like saying if your dog turns on you instead of putting him down you lock him in your kids bed room (you go to jail for that these days)Thats ok though he creates man and gives him the garden of eden/heaven on earth.But wait here comes a talking snake(aliens in a infinite universe is crazy though ,the trillions of stars weve seen all with possible planets are all vacant b/c god just put them there for fun) this talkin snake gets "eve" to bite a piece of fruit and mankind is punished forever now.Mankind would have lived in paradise forever and just had to avoid one little fruit tree.Boy I wish I would have had that oppurtunity for myself to make.The guy above is right though dont be fooled b/c if you are eternal fire awaits you.The place where the loving god puts his children if they dont make it through the maze of religions and belief systems to the right finish line.Oh before i go let me add Satan also went back in time and made at least 10 religions i know of identical to the bible.But the bible didnt copy them satan got in his time machine and went back 4-5 thousand yrs ago and just made them all look alike.Satan also gave David Icke and many other researchers the power to find this information.Once again I advice you not to read it ,its not woth goig to hell.Your better off just preying to the invisible man in the sky and following a book a bunch of men you never met before wrote.

go to the Toorrent networks and search for David Icke.
I downloaded a 4.21 GB DVD series he made...(brain Fart the name) and it was astounding.

Great stuff, and healthy attitudes towards living and conciousness.

Even his 4d reptoid theory was well based thru history.

Also check out his interview with Project Cameloott... youtube it mate!

Chow!

While Icke makes many valid points, he is also flawed just as are many other conspiracy researchers when it comes to anything spiritual. Icke, like his predecessors, is right on with things he can prove such as, the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, CFR, Tri-Lat Commission, UN, Federal Reserve, etc, but other than that, he's all conjecture. If there is no such thing as a God or bible, how can Icke, "with a straight face", lay any kind of foundation that is remotely believeable about his shapeshifting reptilians?

If anybody knows their bible, it's full of ufo's, reptilians, the bohemien grove Owl "Molech", the nephilum, the annunaki, the gibroim, and the sons of God(the giants). The "matrix" theory is nothing new, for the bible is an entire encoded and encrypted book. Man, with the use of computers is just now unlocking these codes. For more info on that, just contact either Chuck Missler or Jim Marrs. people are simply "afraid" of things they can't readily give an explanation for, and spirituallity is no different.

God created the matrix, and that's a fact also! For if we came from a big bang theory, I am yet to see anybody get pregnant from smacking 2 rocks together, and the monkies are still in the zoos! The matrix is nothing but a radical numbers system that was encompassed by someone who has a mastermind. We are all numbered by dna, the hairs on our head, and the days we're alotted to live. The bible has all of this for those who wanna read it seriously! God rules while satan drools!

Where Im not a christian I do believe the whole "bible code thing" has some real meaning.Could a superior being "god" have created the matrix defenely possible.But it is no more fact than the reptoids are.I hate modern day christianity belief,but those like "Edgar cayce" for example Im willing to listen to .Im "guessing" the comment above was reffering to something similar to that.

reply to post by trey85
I can fully understand why you would hate today's modern christianity! It has gotten completely away from the teachings Jesus was giving when he was here on the earth. Things have gotten so far outta hand that some preachers are telling their congregations that it'll be okay to take the "mark of the beast"! God doesn't want them or their families to starve. I also use to be a non-believer, but there were some things that happened in my life personally that changed my mind due to the fact that nobody, not even the doctors could give an answer for. I just thank God daily for allowing me to be here!

I stopped taking David Icke seriously after "the elites are reptillians". Come on, that would make a great story, but a theory about the royal families of the world? Even that's enough to make one take off their tin-foil hat and scratch their heads.

Originally posted by Dr Love
I don't really know if this has anything to do with his Matrix theory, but here's a little something I've noticed about myself. There was a time in my life when everything seemed to be a struggle. Over a period of years I've forced myself to go through a reawakening so to speak. I treat myself better. I treat others better. I always try to do the right thing now. I try to always have compassion for my fellow man even when there are others who stand against me. What I notice now is that good things are always happening to me. If I need money, something happens and money will just fall into my lap. My relationships are better than they have ever been. This has nothing to do with religion, it's just something I forced myself to do and it has really paid dividends. I do believe that each of us really do control our own destiny and that our minds are the key. I hope this makes sense to someone else out there.

Peace

Dr Love, i have read much of what you have posted over the years here. This post, however, is profound beyond all others.

What you say is true. The same has happened to me. About 12 years ago i read "Way of the Peaceful Warrior" by Dan Millman, and completely changed the way i treated the world. Life has gotten to be much easier, with much less anguish and struggle.

My mother can say the same. She does sweepstakes as a hobby (2-3 hours a day) online. What she wins is most often given away to family (her Christmas presents are virtually all from sweepstakes, often bought with gift cards she wins).

In the last year, for example, she has won:

1 XBox 360 (given to my sister)
12 XBox 360 games, including Call of Duty 5 (split between me and my sister)
2 Nintendo Wii's (given to a neice and another to a different niece)
1 Dell Dimension Laptop (mom kept this one)
Several thousands of dollars in gift cards (VISA, Wal Mart, Best Buy, etc).
2 Nintendo DS (one to my son, the other to my nephew)
1 PSP (given to my oldest son)

This is just a scratch on the surface. LOL, she even won 10k on a scratch off lottery ticket.

When she was recovering fro lymphoma, she had to spend about 2k every 3 months on a CAT/PET scan. Like clockwork, every 3 months she would win a couple of 1k dollar VISA cards.

When my sister was in high school, my mom walked into a casino with her cousin, swearing that she would only play 1 dollar worth of nickels on the slots (she was just visiting some family and went to be cordial). She lost her first 95 cents, then ended up walking out with over 3k.

If you are interested in this subject you could read this book :

The code to the Matrix :

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