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reply posted on 4-5-2005 @ 06:07 AM by Legalizer
Check your local Barnes & Nobles if you live in New Jersey, they should carry the books currently in print on this subject.

There is a good story in the anthology "Cthulhu 2000", about the pine barrens and energy vortices.

Go here to discuss New Jersey Mysteries

When I was a kid the Jersey Devil was all the rage, every one of us used to think the Devil lived in the woods behind the school, occasionally someone would say "The Jersey Devil!" and point at a window, all the kids would go scurrying up to the windows to see. I for one knew I was totally BS'ing all the other third graders. But still, the Devil occupied our imaginations and artistic ambitions for a good year.

There is a recent movie called "The 13th Child", which is supposed to be about the Jersey Devil, its low budget and not very scary (man in latex custom ya know), but if you are studying the folklore it adds to the fun. About 15 years ago there was a documentary on the subject, it was aired on a local UHF channel, not sure if that ever made it to video or dvd yet.

Some descriptions of the New Jersey devil say that it moves about like a whirlwind, or minor tornado.
Until about ten or 15 years ago such weather conditions were not well known in New Jersey.
Now we get seasonal Tornado warnings in New Jersey, with an occasional devestating touch down, so it could very well be that "the devil", was simply a weather phenomena that most people didn't expect to see on the east coast, and therefore couldn't explain any other way but superstition.

If the "feral child", or "unknown animal", ever did exist, he's long gone now. There hasn't been any sensational occurance of the ookie spook in ages.

Red Ponds in the pine barrens? That is weird. Normally I would suspect red clay, like the lakes of Georgia, but I'm not aware of that much clay in New Jersey, mostly the pine barrens is sand, and peat bogs. Makes me think there is some industrial pollution, but it could very well be just trapped clay deposits. Ok just googled clay deposits in New Jersey and Woodbridge (a mid-southern NJ town) is "Universally known for its fine clay deposits", so that pretty much clears the mystery of red lakes and ponds.





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reply posted on 4-5-2005 @ 08:22 PM by Legalizer
According to this
The devil is most likely a sandhill crane, and all "devil" associations to this creature are pure mass hysteria and religious superstitous nonsense.


reply posted on 5-5-2005 @ 12:40 PM by Gazrok

Classic depiction of the Jersey Devil


H. Monstrous Bat

Could this be the culprit???

Original credit to member NotTooHappy…


The single species, H. monstrosus, is found from Gambia to southwestern Ethiopia and south to northeastern Angola and Zambia (Hayman and Hill, in Meester and Setzer 1977; Koopman 1975; Largen, Kock, and Yalden 1974).
Head and body length is about 193-304 mm, there is no tail, and forearm length is 118-37 mm. The wingspan in males is as much as 907 mm. This genus has the greatest sexual dimorphism in the Chiroptera; Bradbury (1977) found that males, which averaged 420 grams, were nearly twice as heavy as females, which averaged 234 grams. The coloration is grayish brown or slaty brown. The breast is paler, and the lighter color extends up around the neck, forming a sort of collar. A white patch is present at the base of the ear. Shoulder pouches and epauletlike hair tufts are lacking in both sexes.
Male Hypsignathus may be recognized in flight by the large, square, truncate head. The muzzle is thick and hammer-shaped, hence the common name. Other distinctive features are enormous and pendulous lips, ruffles around the nose, a warty snout, a hairless, split chin, and highly developed voice organs in adult males. Females have a foxlike muzzle similar to that of Epomophorus.
In referring to this genus, Lang and Chapin (1917) commented: "In no other mammal is everything so entirely subordinated to the organs of voice." The adult male has a pair of air sacs that open into the sides of the nasopharynx and can be inflated at will, as well as a great enlargement of the voice box (larynx) and vocal cords. The larynx "is nearly equal in length to one half of the vertebral column," actually filling most of the chest cavity, pushing the heart and lungs backward and sideward. The voice thus produced, a continuous croaking or quacking, is quite remarkable and probably attracts the females. The gregarious chorus reminded Lang and Chapin of "a pondful of noisy American wood-frogs, greatly magnified and transported to the treetops."
The hammer-headed bat inhabits forests, being most common in swamps, mangroves, and palms along rivers. It usually roosts in foliage but has been found in a cave. Bradbury (1977) stated that Hypsignathus roosted at a height of 20-30 meters during the day and would forage up to 10 km from the roost at night. With the ripening of certain fruits, this bat often seeks the high forest or native clearings to feed. It may take the juices of mangoes, soursops, and bananas. Van Deusen (1968) reported that Hypsignathus killed and ate tethered chickens.


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