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It *is* a big deal Mr. President Elect....

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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: snowspirit

Even the slightest hint of a potential for any kind of conflict of interest is absolutely *intolerable* for the President of The United States. Are you kidding me?!?


a reply to: Riffrafter


🤔 This type of thing should have been figured out way before he was elected. It's almost like they (news anchors, etc) thought there was no way he would be elected......

Now it's one big kerfuffle......


It was brought up. It is just like how he promised to show his tax returns which never happened.

I brought this issue up in several threads, but people weren't listening or didn't care.




posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Christosterone
Dear Liberals,

Owning property and having [actual] money is complicated...

Sincerely,
Every Adult Who Has A Job

Dear conservatives,
You aren't the only ones with money and land.

Sincerely,
Everyone with a brain


Can I go to your progressive bible for proof?
Oops, I said "bible"....
Did that offend your delicate liberal sensibilities?
Are you triggered?
Do you have access to a safe space?

Anyhow, once your done wiping away your liberal tears take a read...
www.huffingtonpost.com...

-Chris

Judging by your short-cut to thinking buzzwords, I'd say someone is definitely triggered haha. Any original thoughts?

(Hint, those are tears of laughter.)


And of course a lot of rich people are conservative, the right definitely isn't the party of the common people, as made evident by your source. Thinking only conservatives understand finance is ignorant.

Makes you feel weird to find out liberals aren't really "triggered" by any of your words, huh?



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: FelisOrion
Bwhaha that will never happen though. You'd think a man who has literally lived off his fathers wealth, and influence would take the virtuous path, and do what normal aging parents do, and pass the legacy to his children. But no, he won't. The fact that he has not yet put his assets in a blind trust and the fact that he has been dancing around this issue proves he has no intention of doing so.

Right, you voted a con-man in. A con-man who can't even redeem himself with this last act of virtue; that virtue being sacrifice for the needs of the people.


Be ashamed,


We knew all of this...
And he still beat Hillary...

You lost...America is no longer a college campus full of pansies...

Obama will be relegated to a parentheses in the history...

I cannot wait to see his entire legacy erased in a matter of months...

Sorry progressives...it's over for ur little communist experiment...you lost...
Liberalism is an ethos bereft of morality and happily we see it's chief advocate, president Obama scorned and his ridiculous legacy mocked and erased...
He has become a shadow, a non factor whose effect on the world will be completely gone by mid summer and have zero lasting impact past the superficial idolatry of the leftist hoardes...



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: FelisOrion
Bwhaha that will never happen though. You'd think a man who has literally lived off his fathers wealth, and influence would take the virtuous path, and do what normal aging parents do, and pass the legacy to his children. But no, he won't. The fact that he has not yet put his assets in a blind trust and the fact that he has been dancing around this issue proves he has no intention of doing so.

Right, you voted a con-man in. A con-man who can't even redeem himself with this last act of virtue; that virtue being sacrifice for the needs of the people.


Be ashamed,

Very well said.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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Yeah that makes sense, I agree. He won't though. And there is no way there aren't going to be cases where there is conflict of interest. The author of Clinton Cash recently warned about Trump as a matter of fact.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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originally posted by: chuckk
a reply to: Riffrafter
Bottom Line: How is owning hotels and golf courses causing any negative effect on a federal level? Trump hates, please go away.


There was an example in the news of a building Trump owns that leases its property from the federal government. That would put Trump in a position to negotiate the rent of the building with himself. He could also favor laws that affect his companies legal abilities.

Take a look at some of the stuff the Clintons did, and you'll start to see what Trump could do and why there are definite conflicts of interest.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

You knew he had no intention of resolving his conflicts of interest or putting anything in a blind trust when he told his kids to have fun with his company during a rally. Why would you expect different?
edit on 11/21/2016 by MonkeyFishFrog because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:13 PM
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a reply to: Christosterone

It is hilarious how you right-wingers think just because a person criticizes Trump, they have to be a progressive or left. Also how the right claims to be for 'paying your fair share', but conveniently overlooks the fact that Trump has used loopholes to evade taxes, and has refused to release his tax returns. Or the fact that Trump has made a living off his fathers name, brand, and influence all his damn life yet you claim to be for 'working by the sweat of your own brow', not your father's.

You call taking advantages of loopholes to evade taxes, 'good business'. You call vulgarity "going against PC". You call virtue and class mocking a disabled reporter. You call going on a rant about Saturday Night Live and the cast of Hamilton expressing their grievances about Trump's rhetoric "a strong disposition and thick-skin".

You are by definition a cult follower. You literally have all the signs of it. All the symptoms, and anyone who had the misfortune of divorcing themselves from the cult followers' personality will tell you the same.

Again, be ashamed.
edit on 21-11-2016 by FelisOrion because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

Plutocracy (from Greek πλοῦτος, ploutos, meaning "wealth", and κράτος, kratos, meaning "power, dominion, rule") or plutarchy, is a form of oligarchy and defines a society ruled or controlled by the small minority of the wealthiest citizens. The first known use of the term was in 1652.[1] Unlike systems such as democracy, capitalism, socialism or anarchism, plutocracy is not rooted in an established political philosophy. The concept of plutocracy may be advocated by the wealthy classes of a society in an indirect or surreptitious fashion, though the term itself is almost always used in a pejorative sense.[


So, is he gonna change the name to Trump's USA?

I..dont even want to read these comments because I know the righties are going to be cheering on a overt corporate takeover of the USA...because its their man who is running the corporation.


We saw this happen in Canada with the Harper Government in 2011. He changed official letterheads from Government of Canada to Harper's Government of Canada. That kind of egotistical nonsense should be uprooted and thrown out.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: Riffrafter

"Liquidating all his holdings"

That doesn't sound very easy.....real estate all over the world......yep, this really needed to be figured out yesteryear


It doesn't have to happen overnight.

He simply needs to tell the American people in no uncertain terms that he will be liquidating his holdings since being the President of The United States is just a tad more important.

Then he and his team need to hire a very good lawyer and very good financial adviser to both oversee and complete that process. Sure it will take some time, but he needs to be hands off the entire process from day one and act is if the holdings are already sold and the money is in the bank or trust if you prefer.

It's not that hard. His children can then use that money to live fat & happy until their father is out of office in either 4 or 8 years. If it upsets them a little - tough crap. They can cry all the way to the bank. This nation and it's people are *far* more important than any one family or family's "feelings".

They all need to put their big pants on, suck it up and take one for the team. The team being the USA.


edit on 11/22/2016 by Riffrafter because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

You know what ..... You guys made your bed and i really have no sympathy ....

While you were all looking at the new shiny things you own somehow you all forgot to keep the government accountable for their actions, so you voted in an unscrupulous businessman to " make America great again "...the problem is that "hope and change " and "make America great again " are like mating calls and somehow you lot fall for it every-time....Seriously if people would put the same amount of energy into politics that they do into keeping their shiny things shiny perhaps those that work for the people would in fact work for the people...you know because they were being audited to do so ....meh

Trump will not be liquidating his assets to keep the population happy he cares about his name his wife his kids and his money....get used to it



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Christosterone
Dear Liberals,

Owning property and having [actual] money is complicated...

Sincerely,
Every Adult Who Has A Job


Lol!

But I'm not a Liberal.

And it isn't that complicated.

Buying and trading derivatives is complicated. This is a walk in the park.

Or is selling his real estate holdings and other hard assets too complicated for he & his team?

And remember - I voted for him.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Riffrafter

i got no problems with him owning property. if he steps down from the day to day running of the business and one of his kids takes over as CEO. he has the right to own all the property in the world if he wants and can afford it.

so long as we have paper wotrk showing he stepped down, and shows the one of the kids running the show, and that in no way his former company benifits from the U.S. Government it's all fine.

now if something like Cheney and Halliburton well hold up just a minute, and nip that in the bud.



So you don't believe his children running his businesses present a potential conflict of interest?

So what you're saying is that he will never think about and/or make a decision that would impact those businesses either positively or negatively? You are a very trusting soul my friend.

I on the other hand, am human. So is he. He won't be able to help it - especially if he loves his children.

To say nothing of all the thousand of Trump loyalists running all of those hundreds of agencies that regulate, well, everything. Do you also trust that none of them may factor that into their thinking?

There is only one answer.


edit on 11/21/2016 by Riffrafter because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




CNN was arguing the same point this morning. Since CNN wants Donald Trump to divest his FAMILY from interests in the Trump global conglomerate, I'm totally AGAINST him doing so


I assume you're being facetious here, especially in light of your second paragraph.

And you don't seem like the type that would cut off their nose to spite their face.




posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Riffrafter

You knew he had no intention of resolving his conflicts of interest or putting anything in a blind trust when he told his kids to have fun with his company during a rally. Why would you expect different?


I knew nothing of the kind.

Nor did I expect him to liquidate his assets before he actually won the presidency.

But yes, I did and do expect him to see what a no-brainer this decision is.

Hope springs eternal....or infernal in some cases.

We'll see.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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FYI - There was a conflict-of-interest thread started on 11.18.2016.
REF: www.abovetopsecret.com...

As is often the case, it deteriorated into a My Ego vs Your Ego blathering.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:47 PM
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Trump is something you haven't seen before. Everyone keeps saying "that's not how it has always been done".

Well, news flash. He's an unconventional, nonconforming, sly and possibly shady but successful businessman with world wide interests.

His campaign was unconventional, nonconforming and was out spent by outrageous amounts. The media was and is still in the tank for the opposition and yet he overcame these handicaps and not only went on to win but is still confounding the lame stream media.

The taking heads and many on here are still harping "that's not how it has always been done".

I don't expect him to release his taxes or divest himself of his business interests. He'll let his kids run the business while he runs the Country. I expect his management of the Country to be similar to his business style, from meetings with Congress, his Cabinet or World Leaders. I don't imagine typical, how it has always been done, diplomacy to take place in his Administration either. It will be just another business discussion, like with another CEO.

If there are significant improprieties over the next 8 years Congress can always exercise its powers.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer

America is not a business. Get that through your thick skull.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed




You know what ..... You guys made your bed and i really have no sympathy ....


You guys?

Who exactly is that? People that exercised their right to vote for change?

And he doesn't take office until January 20th.

There is a lot of time for him to understand the gravitas of his position and right his ship.

I am truly hoping he does what we, the American people deserve.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter




Who exactly is that?

The American voters



People that exercised their right to vote for change?

The change you are voting for is nothing more than a catch phrase ...



I am truly hoping he does what we, the American people deserve.

Good luck with that.....




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