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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Considering I know people that work for and have worked for the NCMEC I'm pretty confident in saying they're not "in on it." John Walsh was even out at my brewery this weekend because we brewed a batch of beer where all proceeds go to the NCMEC. Just heading him speak you can tell he's extremely passionate about all the work they do there.


Im not saying theyre all in on it and in fact Im sure they arent but having a few beers with a bloke and him being passionate about his job is hardly an indication that its all above board.

Can you really see him saying "well yeah, I love little boy #@!$"

It wouldnt be the 1st time someone in a position of power in an organisation set up to combat something was in fact up to their neck in what it is they were meant to be combating.

Most Psycho and Sociopaths are quite charismatic and believable which is how they manage to avoid suspicion and exposure


Are you seriously implicating John Walsh, whose child was abucted and murdered by a deranged pervert, and who has dedicated his life to putting scum behind bars?



I dont have a clue who John Walsh is so Im not implicating anyone, what Im saying is just because someone works for the quit smoking campaign doesnt mean its impossible for them to be a smoker, just because someone works for the police doesnt mean they dont ever commit crimes and just because someone works in child welfare it doesnt mean they arent pedos




posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Wow. You've really lost some credibility here with this one.

SMH



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Why aren't any of the civilian groups that deal with pedophilia going near this? The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children have put away thousands of pedophiles and they're not touching this with a ten foot pole.


Because it's giant pile of sick BS...You need to have a effed imagination to read emails about fundraisers, Pizza etc. and cut out of context excerpts together into a collage themed around molesting children.

I'll be blunt...I think this says A LOT more about the people constructing the BS than it does the people that are being accused, like the Pizza Shop that just had a lunatic walk in with and AR-15.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: X88B88


While I believe there is some fire due to the smoke, I still have serious doubts as to the participance of Besta, Comet or any of the other businesses in that area. This is due mostly to the lack of one single email that specifically talks about child porn or other nefarious activities occurring there. So far everything has been circumstantial, and A LOT of baseless conclusions have been drawn.


1. No child has come forward and claimed they were abused.

2. No parent has come forward and claimed that they suspect their child has been abused.

3. Most of the children in the photographs appear to be happy, well fed, white children. They were clearly not smuggled in from Panama or Thailand. They are being raised by prosperous middle-class-or-better parents who would certainly report abuse if they suspected it.

Funny how the "investigators" have overlooked these three elementary clues. What's more, the locals who frequent the restaurant support it:


edit on 5-12-2016 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

John Walsh started the NCMEC after his son was abducted and brutally murdered by Ottis Toole. He wanted to make sure no parent had to go through what he did. Between his work with the NCMEC and America's Most Wanted he has personally helped put away thousands of pedophiles and violent criminals. But because the NCMEC doesn't feel there is enough evidence to pursue an investigation into Pizzagate you're going to imply he's a pedophile? Wow. That's all I can say.


Again I have not heard of this guy prior to 20 min ago so I wasnt accusing anyone of anything, my point was just because someone works in a position to combat pedophilia that does not automatically disqualify them from being a pedophile.
Plenty of people who have worked in orphanges and child protective services have been pedos themselves and Im sure prior to them being found out everyone would have said they were passionate about their role and combating this scourge.

Im sure this John Walsh blokes heart is in the right place especially given his loss so jump down from your high horse and chill



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: X88B88


While I believe there is some fire due to the smoke, I still have serious doubts as to the participance of Besta, Comet or any of the other businesses in that area. This is due mostly to the lack of one single email that specifically talks about child porn or other nefarious activities occurring there. So far everything has been circumstantial, and A LOT of baseless conclusions have been drawn.


1. No child has come forward and claimed they were abused.

2. No parent has come forward and claimed that they suspect their child has been abused.

3. Most of the children in the photographs appear to be happy, well fed, white children. They were clearly not smuggled in from Panama or Thailand. They are being raised by prosperous middle-class-or-better parents who would certainly report abuse if they suspected it.

Funny how the "investigators" have overlooked these three elementary clues. What's more, the locals who frequent the restaurant support it:



That reminds me of IStandWithDojoPizza.
I will let you Google Search how that turned out.
Protip- He is in jail for child trafficking and pedophilia



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: TheFlyOnTheWall

I'd like to know why everyone is so hung up on the "top 50 most powerful men in D.C." thing. Do you know who assigned him that honor? GQ magazine. Not exactly a hard-hitting news magazine. It's not like it's Time or Newsweek. They probably put him in there because he's a hipster who dresses really cool.


GQ (formerly Gentlemen's Quarterly) is an international monthly men's magazine based in New York City. The publication focuses on fashion, style, and culture for men, though articles on food, movies, fitness, sex, music, travel, sports, technology, and books are also featured.


en.wikipedia.org...

I think we can drop the top 50 comment as any kind of valid argument for him being a pedophile.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Considering I know people that work for and have worked for the NCMEC I'm pretty confident in saying they're not "in on it." John Walsh was even out at my brewery this weekend because we brewed a batch of beer where all proceeds go to the NCMEC. Just heading him speak you can tell he's extremely passionate about all the work they do there.


Im not saying theyre all in on it and in fact Im sure they arent but having a few beers with a bloke and him being passionate about his job is hardly an indication that its all above board.

Can you really see him saying "well yeah, I love little boy #@!$"

It wouldnt be the 1st time someone in a position of power in an organisation set up to combat something was in fact up to their neck in what it is they were meant to be combating.

Most Psycho and Sociopaths are quite charismatic and believable which is how they manage to avoid suspicion and exposure


Are you seriously implicating John Walsh, whose child was abucted and murdered by a deranged pervert, and who has dedicated his life to putting scum behind bars?



I dont have a clue who John Walsh is so Im not implicating anyone, what Im saying is just because someone works for the quit smoking campaign doesnt mean its impossible for them to be a smoker, just because someone works for the police doesnt mean they dont ever commit crimes and just because someone works in child welfare it doesnt mean they arent pedos


In principal you're correct. But I would certainly hope we wouldn't go throwing around accusations without proof. There is no evidence that John Walsh is guilty of anything.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

You want REALLY scary...

Trumps new National Security Advisor?...Flynn?..His son Flynn junior is his Top Aide...and was just given his .Gov email...and he is still pushing Pizzagate on Twitter..Even after this almost shooting at the Pizza Place.

www.cnn.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: X88B88
Well this case would be the one to mess up on and not do the full research on a single guy. It only goes into a dark rabbit hole of f'n CP with millions of connections I really wish I didn't know about any of this its just so disheartening.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470
Reply to Greggers:



You're free to investigate it here. Earlier I was trying to compile a list of facts so we can clarify what's been debunked and what hasn't been. No one tried to stop me or anyone who disagreed with me.


Try making a new thread about it. I'm curious to see what will happen. Even threads created about the shooting that just happened are shut down and redirected to this thread with the mod using the excuse that the shooting is already being discussed here... After the 52nd page! If those new threads were not created, a lot of people on ATS might not have learned about that incident. Everything pizzagate is being silenced/censored on ATS!

I've never seen anything like it in my life.


Yes the attempts at damage control here, are at unbelievable levels. Reasonable sounding claims of not having minds made up...not everyone, but a few, 24/7...while every bit of languaging is dripping in straight out of the book mind control and persuasion techniques, tells me they really are worried that the fences are going to be trampled.

And they will.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Reply to Greggers:



You're free to investigate it here. Earlier I was trying to compile a list of facts so we can clarify what's been debunked and what hasn't been. No one tried to stop me or anyone who disagreed with me.


Try making a new thread about it. I'm curious to see what will happen. Even threads created about the shooting that just happened are shut down and redirected to this thread with the mod using the excuse that the shooting is already being discussed here... After the 52nd page! If those new threads were not created, a lot of people on ATS might not have learned about that incident. Everything pizzagate is being silenced/censored on ATS!

I've never seen anything like it in my life.


Yes the attempts at damage control here, are at unbelievable levels. Reasonable sounding claims of not having minds made up...not everyone, but a few, 24/7...while every bit of languaging is dripping in straight out of the book mind control and persuasion techniques, tells me they really are worried that the fences are going to be trampled.

And they will.


Gee, I hope I'm not part of this "damage control" using "mind control and persuasion techniques." If so, I'm vastly underpaid.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Enderdog

originally posted by: 3n19m470
Reply to Greggers:



You're free to investigate it here. Earlier I was trying to compile a list of facts so we can clarify what's been debunked and what hasn't been. No one tried to stop me or anyone who disagreed with me.


Try making a new thread about it. I'm curious to see what will happen. Even threads created about the shooting that just happened are shut down and redirected to this thread with the mod using the excuse that the shooting is already being discussed here... After the 52nd page! If those new threads were not created, a lot of people on ATS might not have learned about that incident. Everything pizzagate is being silenced/censored on ATS!

I've never seen anything like it in my life.


Yes the attempts at damage control here, are at unbelievable levels. Reasonable sounding claims of not having minds made up...not everyone, but a few, 24/7...while every bit of languaging is dripping in straight out of the book mind control and persuasion techniques, tells me they really are worried that the fences are going to be trampled.

And they will.


Gee, I hope I'm not part of this "damage control" using "mind control and persuasion techniques." If so, I'm vastly underpaid.


In a post truth era..."mind control and persuasion" is code for logical and objective thinking.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

Interesting. I found someone else who stands with comet.
archive.is...
sor.informe.org...



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: JetBlackStare
a reply to: MotherMayEye

This situation is so dangerous, it's surreal, even if there are no children at risk. What's most assuredly at risk is the American populace and their internet freedoms, which are both clearly being manipulated toward some end.


Well, on this I agree with you. Not necessarily about the manipulation part (although I acknowledge it's always possible), but moreso that if people can't differentiate fact from fiction, our liberties are in jeopardy.. In the end, we'll be responsible for stealing our own rights.

We'll look back and say, "I remember when we used to have true freedom of the press and freedom of speech, but people were stupid and pissed it away."


This is a valid concern. We all know it isn't only the elite or government officials who participate in child porn. Regular, everyday people are also guilty of it. It may get to a point that authorities will justify heavy monitoring of everyone's internet use, to catch the bad guys. Now, as for myself, I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear, right?



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: DJW001

You want REALLY scary...

Trumps new National Security Advisor?...Flynn?..His son Flynn junior is his Top Aide...and was just given his .Gov email...and he is still pushing Pizzagate on Twitter..Even after this almost shooting at the Pizza Place.

www.cnn.com...



Because you have better Intel than a high-ranking govt official.
Plausible?



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

I never said because of that he's a pedophile. I question wtf makes this guy so special in DC



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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Incoming national security adviser's son spreads fake news about D.C. pizza shop
www.politico.com...



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

Considering I know people that work for and have worked for the NCMEC I'm pretty confident in saying they're not "in on it." John Walsh was even out at my brewery this weekend because we brewed a batch of beer where all proceeds go to the NCMEC. Just heading him speak you can tell he's extremely passionate about all the work they do there.


Im not saying theyre all in on it and in fact Im sure they arent but having a few beers with a bloke and him being passionate about his job is hardly an indication that its all above board.

Can you really see him saying "well yeah, I love little boy #@!$"

It wouldnt be the 1st time someone in a position of power in an organisation set up to combat something was in fact up to their neck in what it is they were meant to be combating.

Most Psycho and Sociopaths are quite charismatic and believable which is how they manage to avoid suspicion and exposure


Are you seriously implicating John Walsh, whose child was abucted and murdered by a deranged pervert, and who has dedicated his life to putting scum behind bars?



I dont have a clue who John Walsh is so Im not implicating anyone, what Im saying is just because someone works for the quit smoking campaign doesnt mean its impossible for them to be a smoker, just because someone works for the police doesnt mean they dont ever commit crimes and just because someone works in child welfare it doesnt mean they arent pedos


In principal you're correct. But I would certainly hope we wouldn't go throwing around accusations without proof. There is no evidence that John Walsh is guilty of anything.


No one said he was and the fact he is even being brought up and people are implying I accused him of something reeks of diversionary tactics and desperation.
I havent accused anyone of anything, not even Podesta or Alefanti



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: CrazyK22
a reply to: X88B88
Well this case would be the one to mess up on and not do the full research on a single guy. It only goes into a dark rabbit hole of f'n CP with millions of connections I really wish I didn't know about any of this its just so disheartening.


If this is all true, I would think that something else more substantial would have already surfaced.

If it's just a matter of time before it does, then I hope time passes quickly.

As a father of 2 young boys, I find that this is an issue that really affects me.

Personally, I'd actually pay to be allowed the privilege of executing people that have been found guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt of hurting or exploiting children. I would relish in their death(s), quite honestly.




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