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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: reldra
I think the percent chance is almost nil that pizza and double hearts will lead us to a vast conspiracy. It might even be a distraction from the real one.


Could be. But until the theories are fleshed out, it's just a guess.

Let people dig in. No one else is doing so.


There is no harm. But the percent chance of this being real is so low, I just think it should always be in skunkworks. But not covered up. Please go ahead and continue. It is just my opinion that this path leads nowhere and was made up by someone either to troll or to cover up something else.


What math are you using to come up with your percentages? What are your variables?

Again, it's just your opinion. I think this is exactly the kind of stuff those in power would do anything to bury. I think you give way, way too much credit.

Who is 'doing' child sex trafficking, in your opinion? It happens. We both acknowledge it.

So who is doing it and getting away with it? And why the hell should we mark those in authoritative, wealthy, powerful positions off the list?


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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: reldra

In the 1980s people made the same sort of comments that you are making. They too made such comments of utter disbelief berating people for making such slanderous comments about the wonderful Priests, Ministers of religion and let us not forget the Nuns. Then there were massive denials about Scout masters and teachers.

35 bloody years and the truth is surfacing. All those cases, hundreds of them now before the courts;

Go ahead Relda, bury your head in the sand. I have zero respect for your opinion!

Your attitude and the same attitudes is what allows these monsters to flourish.

It is a sad sad world. If I ever told my story people like you would come along and denigrade me.

Either open your eyes or just STFU.

It seems to me that you are very quick to defend these terrible shocking people.

P


There was also a RASH of FAKE satanic sex cult incidents in the 80s, pushed by over-zealous social workers.

My eyes are open.
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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: Darkmadness

Are you mentally challenged? Your businesses logo just got misinterpreted for some child porn thing, and you were informed. Do you keep it the same?

You think this is evidence?

Man... I just can't believe how ridiculous some of you are.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: reldra
I think the percent chance is almost nil that pizza and double hearts will lead us to a vast conspiracy. It might even be a distraction from the real one.


Could be. But until the theories are fleshed out, it's just a guess.

Let people dig in. No one else is doing so.


There is no harm. But the percent chance of this being real is so low, I just think it should always be in skunkworks. But not covered up. Please go ahead and continue. It is just my opinion that this path leads nowhere and was made up by someone either to troll or to cover up something else.


What math are you using to come up with your percentages? What are your variables?

Again, it's just your opinion. I think this is exactly the kind of stuff those in power would do anything to bury. I think you give way, way too much credit.

Who is 'doing' child sex trafficking, in your opinion? It happens. We both acknowledge it.

So who is doing it and getting away with it? And why the hell should we mark those in authoritative, wealthy, powerful positions off the list?



I doubt John Podesta is and I doubt the word pizza has anything to do with it. Ot pizza sauce or pizza places. Or double hearts or hands. Other than that, I do not know.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye


Your response was this: "Anything to keep people from talking about Der Orange Fuhrer right?"


When the same folks that were running the social media networks to get Trump elected are now pushing this crap, yeah I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that it's being done for a purpose that has something to do with Trump.


Children are exploited via sex trafficking. Why on earth should I assume that's fake? Professionals dedicate their lives to researching child sex trafficking and exposing it.


Why would you assume it's true? What's a better position? To be skeptical in the absence of proof or to believe anything until it's proven false? What about things that can't be proven false? They're just true? How many professionals are involved in this "investigation" again?


The prime suspects would most likely be the wealthiest, most powerful, and influential who could bury and control criminal and media investigations -- and they would move in the circles where they could find 'purchasers.'


The "prime suspects" for what? That doesn't even make sense. There wasn't a crime that was uncovered with known victims, incidents, etc. This isn't a crime that has been exposed where the perpetrators are being sought. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. This is people creating hypothetical crimes to accuse people of being guilty of.
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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: SignalMal
a reply to: Darkmadness

Are you mentally challenged? Your businesses logo just got misinterpreted for some child porn thing, and you were informed. Do you keep it the same?

You think this is evidence?

Man... I just can't believe how ridiculous some of you are.


Why did Besta Pizza change their logo in the last 2 weeks?

Oh you have no idea please go away.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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There was also a RASH of FAKE satanic sex cult incidents in the 80s, pushed by over-zealous social workers.


So bloody what?

So just stop investigating because Relda says so.

What about the thousands of children around the world that we now know were raped by people in positions of trust.

So bloody what if a few (fake to you) claims were made. Thousands were raped.

Your attitude is what allows these monsters to flourish.

I have no respect for you at all.

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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Darkmadness
If you guys had any brains or actually put any effort into doing any research you would actually provide evidence to prove that the information regarding the FBI's profiling methods for uncovering pedo rings is false information and then you would explain away why these images are used on all the pizza places in question.

Those making the claims shoulder the burden of proof.


But since you havent and most likely can't then you should just sit by and let the real critical thinkers do the work your to lazy to do.

They are doing a pretty poor job except in the eyes of those that don't need convincing.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: reldra

To be honest with you, not really. If I knew I was doing nothing wrong and Ive had that logo for years I wouldn't change it. The only reason why I would change it is Because I'm doing something dodgy and didn't want any more people looking into it.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Darkmadness

Double digit IQ it is... why bother?



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: ColaTesla
a reply to: Darkmadness

I agree, It appears the same people that always try to derail threads are on here at it again, Its somewhat bizarre that they are taking the effort to downplay this.

The best thing to do is not reply to them, That way they have no voice.


Derail? The OP asked a question. The question would have 2 answers. Or possibly 3. Yes, NO or Maybe.

Where do you get DERAIL from?



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
It's apparently a BIG thing now...Twitter has been extremely active with it: twitter.com...
...also: twitter.com...


Also Twitter

More here



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

There was also a RASH of FAKE satanic sex cult incidents in the 80s, pushed by over-zealous social workers.

My eyes are open.



Ah ha. It's true. Reports of fake news buried and destroyed the real news.

I think that's happening now, too. And the timing is so suspicious.

Disinfo has become so very important over the last month.

This fake-news thing has come to the forefront for a very good reason. If not 'Pizzagate,' then another very good reason.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Your 'doubts 'are fine, but no more convincing than someone else's 'hunches.'



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: reldra

There was also a RASH of FAKE satanic sex cult incidents in the 80s, pushed by over-zealous social workers.

My eyes are open.



Ah ha. It's true. Reports of fake news buried and destroyed the real news.

I think that's happening now, too. And the timing is so suspicious.

Disinfo has become so very important over the last month.

This fake-news thing has come to the forefront for a very good reason. If not 'Pizzagate,' then another very good reason.



The fake ones were fake. There were ones to do with the Catholic Chruch that were not fake. I am talking about the massive news stories. Look up the ones from the 80s, social workers used over active imaginations and in the end those were found to be not real.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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To deny child sex trafficking happens would be to deny the truth told by the victims, perpetrators, investigators, researchers, it would mean denying fact.

I'm not willing to do that because you cannot imagine that it happens.

I was kidnapped and raped at age 15 by a 37 year old. Children are exploited. It happens. I know it happens, first hand.

Lucky you that you think it might be fiction.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
To deny child sex trafficking happens...

Who is doing that?



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

They won't touch why Besta Pizza change there logo inthw last week or two with a ten foot pole.

Super damning.

Sick SICI SICK SIK



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: reldra

So how are you sorting fact from fiction?



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: pianopraze

Of COURSE conspiracy belongs on ATS. But this one should always be skunkworks, at the very least. This one is talked about more by the less serious conspiracy sites, like GLP and BIN. Reddit talks about it some, I know. But it is just has little to back it up.



I'm sorry, but there were emails that made no sense unless Podesta was talking in code. A plausible theory was made for what that code could allude to that made sense. I am still waiting for someone to come up with an alternative theory on that code that also makes sense.

So far no one has. The best anyone can do is tell us we're nuts, and that does nothing to dispel the disquiet.


This is exactly how it blew up. It was enough of those weird pizza emails to get people searching. No one new anything about comet pizza until it was put together. Then like dominos, it was one after another



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