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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 01:02 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: anonentity

That actually brings up a good question. A search gives thousands of hits about the sketches but none of the ones I looked at bothered to find out about flight logs. So, what good did pointing out the sketches do? If the ring is as well connected as is claimed, why give them time to tie up loose ends?

Just like the guys claiming to have 2gb of hard proof taken from a computer in we the pizza. They posted that "an anonymous friend who works for an anonymous 3 letter agency tipped me off". Why not give the unencrypted videos to them?

They could have also handed that info over, anonymously, to the authorities with an ultimatum that the info of who it was sent to, along with the proof, will be outed, implicating those agencies in the cover up?

Instead they went on reddit and showed their hand, if it wasn't all BS, giving a heads up and time for things to get wiped. Like someone pointed out, somewhere, the proof could have been compiled from other sources and the claim about having been found in a computer at we the pizza made up and that is exactly what a lawyer would argue, especially if the authorities look and don't find anything, if it even got that far.


The problem is it's not really an investigation. It's people on the internet looking at whatever happens to be easily available on said internet, connecting dots whenever and wherever possible, like a big steam roller smashing every available fact into the form of their preconceived biases.

This is not the way one goes about establishing legitimate charges against a person of interest.




posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: daskakik


Here we have an interesting one where Putin actually denies Russian hacking and advises the accusers to look into the contents of the hacked e mails instead of blaming the Ruskies. en.wikipedia.org... Here we have in small script at the bottom of the information, a clear indication that Putin is directing focus on the subject of the e mails. Thanks for the heads up Ivan.


Here we have one where Johns best friend will be looking into the Weiner e mails pamelageller.com...


Here we have a report of John and Tony on the Saudi payroll...www.independentsentinel.com... nice work if you can get it.


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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 03:03 AM
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The whole 'pizzagate' bases on the ASSUMPTION that 'pizza' is a codeword for Child Porn.

There is no proof, that it is used as this code. It could be just pizza or a code for something else (drugs?).

So far i have not seen evidence of a single victim. No police reports tying any victim to any of the named names or places/businesses. Not a single one.

Not a single mom/dad that came forward with 'my daughter/son got molested or worse'.

Modern art, a guy wearing a T-Shirt with a "I love L'enfant' print (refering to the Architect L'enfant (which means kid in french), the family name of someone could sound like something in french and a Clinton Fundraiser. These are the kind of evidence which are presented in 'pizzagate'.

Nothing to do with nefarious or illegal activities at all.


Last but not least a shoutout to the 'pizzagate' 'researchers':

Take a moment to put yourself in the shoes of somebody working at a pizzeria and suddenly your place is filled with protesters, all restaurant review/rating sites are filled with accusations of child abuse, there are comments like 'burn this place to the ground' and direct death threats simply based on a whacky reddit thread.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: svetlana84

Da, but Nyet.

You are ignoring the role of Jeffrey Epstein in all this, and the fact that "pizza" and other secret pedophile symbols predate this scandal by many years.

For instance this very informative ATS thread from 2010 describing what we are seeing here



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: dashen

Just because people had delusions earlier does not make the delusions true.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: dashen

Just because people had delusions earlier does not make the delusions true.


These symbols were actually sourced from an FBI investigation into PEDO rings in the USA



but sure buddy, everyone is delusional but you



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: dashen

I don't see pizza or ping pong paddles.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 07:25 AM
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a reply to: dashen


You know I think that document is fake someone uploaded it to wiki leaks claiming it was an FBI memorandum to law enforcement. Unfortunately they don't look like that. Here is what one looks like that was recently sent to the police notice the differences including the official records stamp. See anything the FBI sends out has to be stamped and cataloged as an official record. Meaning no mater how long its been you can always go back and pull up the information by its record number. Also doesn't tell you which bureau actually issued it which I find strange. Now it may well be real but then again could be fake as well and I'm leaning towards it was a fake upload since the only place it can be found is on wiki.


Here is a memorandum the FBI sent to law enforcement to compare it with.





posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Ping pong paddles strike a strong resemblance to the butterfly and besta pizza literally had triangular spiral in their logo



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: dashen

If you come up with arguments like "pingpong paddles resemble butterflies, butterflies resemble pedo activities" and "there is a pizzeria with a pizza slice in the logo - therefore pedo" you pretty much proof my point that there is no evidence if any illegal activity.


Just for the sake of the argument, let s assume there is a pedo ring operating a pizzeria (or a pizzeria operating a pedo ring) - why would they have obvious pedo logos?
It just makes no sense at all.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: svetlana84

It makes no sense because you are likely a nice mild mannered human being.
but criminal pedophiles who operate in the shadows make subtle methods to communicate and cooperate.
So having a symbol in say a pizzeria, a place where children frequent, and people wouldnt be as suspicious if an adult and child were there together



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: svetlana84

It makes no sense because you are likely a nice mild mannered human being.
but criminal pedophiles who operate in the shadows make subtle methods to communicate and cooperate.
So having a symbol in say a pizzeria, a place where children frequent, and people wouldnt be as suspicious if an adult and child were there together


What purpose does having the symbol on the sign serve?

Are they advertising children for sale? Think about it. It's absolutely absurd that such a covert operation would advertise to ANYONE publicly. These codes may be secret from the general public, but not the FBI and others.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:11 AM
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What do the deniers think about the Papa kills baby children from the UK. www.liveleak.com... How about Breitbart calling out John Podesta as a bascially a child trafficer back in 2011? All the creepy posters from the bands that play there, shows at 10 p.m. for "all ages" wtf. It is time to wake up my friends. And the truth is Cathy O Brien and others have been telling the truth and the world is run by freakiing pedophiles! But I am very hopeful that it will not be this way for long.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: Greggers

Oh did i mention that a government official dealing with child trafficking is directly involved with the pizzeria .
They have protectia



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Greggers

Oh did i mention that a government official dealing with child trafficking is directly involved with the pizzeria .
They have protectia


The last I heard, the Mr. Kline alleged to have been involved in a position of ownership was NOT in fact the same Mr. Kline who worked for the government. So I don't think that connection exists.

Even if it did, one cannot count on having the same protection across various administrations and government organizations or various branches of law enforcement. It's absurd.
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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: flyingdutchman2112
What do the deniers think about the Papa kills baby children from the UK. www.liveleak.com...


A proven hoax from a vindictive mother who coached her children as part of a divorce settlement.



How about Breitbart calling out John Podesta as a bascially a child trafficer back in 2011?

More information needed. What was Breitbart's motivation for making the tweet? What evidence did he have to back up his claims? To whom, other than Podesta, was he attributing blame?

Why didn't he go to the authorities?



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: Greggers

And yet these nests of the pedos are being busted left and right in highest levels of govt



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Greggers

And yet these nests of the pedos are being busted left and right in highest levels of govt


And these nests of pedos are known for advertising publicly, are they?

As in, hanging a sign on the street so passers-by can say, "Wow. This seemingly innocent pizza place has kids for sale. What a coincidence. I just happen to be walking by, and I'm craving some kids! I need to do some window shopping."
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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Greggers

And yet these nests of the pedos are being busted left and right in highest levels of govt


And these nests of pedos are known for advertising publicly, are they?

As in, hanging a sign on the street so passers-by can say, "Wow. This seemingly innocent pizza place has kids for sale. What a coincidence. I just happen to be walking by, and I'm craving some kids! I need to do some window shopping."

i didnt say they sell kids.
But you can bring a kid, and use the hidden bathrooms to commit unspeakable crimes without drawing attention



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: dashen

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Greggers

And yet these nests of the pedos are being busted left and right in highest levels of govt


And these nests of pedos are known for advertising publicly, are they?

As in, hanging a sign on the street so passers-by can say, "Wow. This seemingly innocent pizza place has kids for sale. What a coincidence. I just happen to be walking by, and I'm craving some kids! I need to do some window shopping."

i didnt say they sell kids.
But you can bring a kid, and use the hidden bathrooms to commit unspeakable crimes without drawing attention


Please find me one brick-and-mortar organization that has been legitimately busted for such activities who had signage advertising their deviant behavior to the general public via secret pedo symbols.

Hey, maybe such a thing exists. If so, it shouldn't be hard to Google.

As far as I know, those secret symbols are used in gatherings where known pedos will be in attendance, as a transitive display, often on items like jewelry or necklaces. They are not hung in windows, where they would basically act as a calling card for all manner of law enforcement.
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