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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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The art on the wall at these pizza places are unacceptable for children to see. Period. Allowing and encouraging your children to see images like that regardless of whether it's called "art" can easily be brought up as child abuse in a court of US law.

Secondly, I want the people that display this child sex torture "art" on their walls nowhere near the whitehouse, especially after all the pedophilia scandals-- so in that respect, I'm very grateful to wiki leak's for exposing this. I think 99% of Americans would agree.

Thirdly, it's true there is no smoking gun evidence to date of child sex trafficking or abuse linked to pizzagate, however the real evidence suggests at the very minimum this needs an investigation by authorities. Pizzagate has kicked up numerous other investigations with twitter and other social networks and have revealed very disturbing illegal sex trafficking and child pornagraphy. This has been verified. The evidence is growing by the day. This alone proves pizzagate and Wikileaks have had a significant positive impact on the fight against child sexual torture.

If the rumors are true that pediphilia rings are widespread throughout even law enforcement agencies and Hollywood (which history supports), then a grass roots investigation such as 4chan, Reddit, twitter, and ats, is the only effective way to combat this.

There are many here calling this "stupid" "political smear" and "art" to try and derail and discourage these discussions, which are all very ignorant statements going by the evidence uncovered to date. You don't have the moral high ground in this discussion and it's not even close....stop acting like you do.



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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Arcturian8

Here you are using the suspicion of real pedophile rings to justify accusations that Hillary Clinton and her staff are connected to one.

You use the debatable argument of the appropriateness of art hanging in a pizza shop as reason to believe a pedophile ring is hidden in its underbelly. If you have a problem with the art, take it up with the owner. Don't make baseless accusations that it means the owner is running a pedophile ring. That's completely irresponsible.

It's also irresponsible to justify your accusation of Hillary Clinton and her staff based on your judgment of pizza shop art and the claim that "we all know pedophile rings exist".

Your arguments are intentionally deceptive and disjointed.

Base your argument on proven facts and reputable fact-based sources. Do not blindly invest in sketchy social media and fringe sources.

These misinformation campaigns are attacks on the American people, attempting to divide and confuse the populace to migrate it under the alt-right umbrella.
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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: daskakik

No it doesn't. I said, can any other connections to that logo be made?

Yeah, it's a slice of pizza with cheese dripping off it and slices of pepperoni on top. It's pretty generic.

It's the sort of thing a graphic designer would knock out in 10 minutes without thinking about it. They certainly wouldn't have thought "Wow, I hope nobody in the future takes this to mean that this pizza place is a part of an international child rape ring"



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8
The art on the wall at these pizza places are unacceptable for children to see. Period.

I don't know what art you are talking about. I know the art of Kim Noble has been mentioned but I have not seen anything to indicate that this was actually on the walls.

I don't think a court would convict on just a rumor.

The following two cancel each other out:

Thirdly, it's true there is not smoking gun evidence to date of child sex trafficking or abuse linked to pizzagate however the real evidence suggests at the very minimum this needs an investigation by authorities.



If the rumors are true that pediphilia rings are widespread throughout even law enforcement agencies and Hollywood (which history supports), then a grass roots investigation such as 4chan, Reddit, twitter, and ats, is the only effective way to combat this.



There are many here calling this "stupid" "political smear" and "art" to try and derail and discourage these discussions, which are all very ignorant statements going by the evidence uncovered to date.

Opinions are just opinions.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie




I have been quite supportive of Assange and Wikileaks. However let's be clear. Assange nor Wikileaks have endorsed or supported this bogus conspiracy.


Assange doesn't endorse anyone. He has made that abundantly clear in the past.



This is the result of creative minds that were not satisfied with the leaked material so they invented a story where there was none.


lol. The leaked material did plenty to satisfy. It proved the DNC is as corrupt as a 3 dollar bill. Then there were the cryptic emails about pizza and spirit cooking...and the rest was history.




The fact that you try to suggest Assange or Wikileaks supports this is further evidence of the misinformation tactics being used to push this false story along.


I never said Assange supports this, I said the info comes directly from wikileaks were you seem to think there is no info. Yet you support Assange. Strange. You remind me of someone who doesn't really know what to think. You support Assange but you don't think the 50,000 email blitz he let out for a month has any pertinent information for us to draw conclusions from. So why is it you support Assange again?



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: FatherLukeDuke

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: daskakik

"Wow, I hope nobody in the future takes this to mean that this pizza place is a part of an international child rape ring"



Actually, you're 100% dead wrong on that. The owner of Besta Pizza is Andrew Klein who works/worked for the Human Trafficking Prosecution unit. Oops, that's a gaf. Got a pedo symbol for your business whilst working for the DOJ. I guess he didn't read the memo.
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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
lol. The leaked material did plenty to satisfy.

That isn't saying much.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall


lol. The leaked material did plenty to satisfy. It proved the DNC is as corrupt as a 3 dollar bill. Then there were the cryptic emails about pizza and spirit cooking...and the rest was history.


Conflation. I'm surprised it's taken astute members this long to call you out. You're pretty easy to see through.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall

originally posted by: FatherLukeDuke

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: daskakik

"Wow, I hope nobody in the future takes this to mean that this pizza place is a part of an international child rape ring"



Actually, you're 100% dead wrong on that.

I'm "100% dead wrong" on what? Are you seriously telling me it doesn't look like a pizza slice with cheese and pepperoni?



The owner of Besta Pizza is Andrew Klein who works/worked for the Human Trafficking Prosecution unit.

Show me your sources for this claim? Actual original source, not more gossip from some internet cesspool. Actual hard evidence.

Anyway, so even if true, this guy prosecutes human traffickers for a living? He's definitely one of the good guys then.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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This and the other Pizzagate thread(s) should be moved to the HOAX bin. Actually hoax is a kinder, gentler term for what this is. An intentional deceptive campaign designed to divide people away from truth and migrate them under an umbrella of misinformation. It is extremely irresponsible to make these accusations without any proof or evidence of wrong-doing.

Pizzagate Conspiracy : snopes.com : FALSE
www.snopes.com...

Fearing yet another witch hunt, Reddit bans ‘Pizzagate’
www.washingtonpost.com...

Fake News Onslaught Targets Pizzeria as Nest of Child-Trafficking
www.nytimes.com...



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Arcturian8

Here you are using the suspicion of real pedophile rings to justify accusations that Hillary Clinton and her staff are connected to one.

You use the debatable argument of the appropriateness of art hanging in a pizza shop as reason to believe a pedophile ring is hidden in its underbelly. If you have a problem with the art, take it up with the owner. Don't make baseless accusations that it means the owner is running a pedophile ring. That's completely irresponsible.

It's also irresponsible to justify your accusation of Hillary Clinton and her staff based on your judgment of pizza shop art and the claim that "we all know pedophile rings exist".

Your arguments are intentionally deceptive and disjointed.

Base your argument on proven facts and reputable fact-based sources. Do not blindly invest in sketchy social media and fringe sources.

These misinformation campaigns are attacks on the American people, attempting to divide and confuse the populace to migrate it under the alt-right umbrella.


Proven facts that you are too lazy to go find yourself:
- clintons are connected to comet ping pong pizza through affiliation with alefantis and podesta
- podesta and alefentis are connected to satanic rituals and child torture "art"
- the pizzagate investigation opened a huge child porn and trafficking network on twitter and other social media networks
- multiple credible ex government and Hollywood whistleblowers have gone on record saying this is real
- the FBI has linked certain food language to pedophila
- multiple similar past pedophilia investigations have proved the connection to elite government and religious officials around the world
- a social worker just died investigating child trafficking in Haiti with connections to the Clinton foundation
- there are documented conmections from Jeff Epstein (a convicted pedophile) and the clintons as well as other very prominent government officials and Hollywood stars. Trump is also connected to Epstein.

There is quite a bit more as well. If you're interested in having an intelligent debate on this topic I encourage you to go read up on the Material. It's moving fast so try to keep up.

I never made a "baseless accusation "that the owner is running a pedophile ring....I said the evidence warrants an investigation. That is my opinion. A very valid opinion based on the very real evidence.

The accusations are coming from you....not me...

How are my arguments "intentionally deceptive and disjointed" ?

Show me the evidence this is from "alt right".



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8
I never made a "baseless accusation "that the owner is running a pedophile ring....

You missed the point, that is what pizzagate is.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: FatherLukeDuke

I concede, It's not the same Kline. I checked it out.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Arcturian8
I never made a "baseless accusation "that the owner is running a pedophile ring....

You missed the point, that is what pizzagate is.


That's your interpretation. My interpretation is this is an active grass roots investigation based on some very disturbing evidence.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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this is a great YouTube video with all the evidence and much much more to it



even if much of it is fake this is just to much to all be a fantasy this i sreally going on and has been going on since the ancient days.. this is why our world is such a #ing mess because these #iing people run it and have been running it for a long long time.... ''For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.''

alex jones gave us the bohemian grove, alister crawly, protocols for the elders of zion spilled the beans and



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: Arcturian8
That's your interpretation. My interpretation is this is an active grass roots investigation based on some very disturbing evidence.

And that disturbing evidence points at what?



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: Arcturian8

Proven facts that you are too lazy to go find yourself:
- clintons are connected to comet ping pong pizza through affiliation with alefantis and podesta

This may be the closest thing to truth.


- podesta and alefentis are connected to satanic rituals and child torture "art"

FALSE


- the pizzagate investigation opened a huge child porn and trafficking network on twitter and other social media networks

FALSE


- multiple credible ex government and Hollywood whistleblowers have gone on record saying this is real

FALSE


- the FBI has linked certain food language to pedophila

FALSE


- multiple similar past pedophilia investigations have proved the connection to elite government and religious officials around the world

IRRELEVANT


- a social worker just died investigating child trafficking in Haiti with connections to the Clinton foundation

IRRELEVANT


- there are documented conmections from Jeff Epstein (a convicted pedophile) and the clintons as well as other very prominent government officials and Hollywood stars. Trump is also connected to Epstein.

IRRELEVANT - Does not prove or even show evidence of guilt



How are my arguments "intentionally deceptive and disjointed" ?


They lack any solid evidence of wrong-doing or proof and yet vehemently claim to be both.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 12:30 AM
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I am kind of amazed how willing people are willing to circle the wagon. This is very interesting not only on how people support their internal findings but also how they will devour their own psyche to make sure their meme is the standard. In an individual regard, my children aren't being murdered and molested physically right? So this is all bull#, right?

The only thing that matters here is what the actual law finds. And believe me chickens, it is coming. What doubters should be more concerned about is what comes after.

PS. I love adult porn and weird #, but when it comes to children and animals, well if you think that is ok. GROSS.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: Fools
my children aren't being murdered and molested physically right? So this is all bull#, right?

Nobody has said that.


What doubters should be more concerned about is what comes after.

What seems to be coming is a fight against fake news. Censorship. Provide the problem and the solution comes to mind.



posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie


The New York times is owned by Murdoch, and the Washington Post by Clintons Mexican Billionaire friend, who got his money the same way Clinton did. They are the fake news outlets.



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