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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Do you say they were fake because the "official"reports day they were fake or do you have actual proof that they were fake




posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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Pizzagate is indeed real. David Icke has been saying the world is run by pedo satanist for years. He was right all along.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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Everyone really needs to question what exactly they voted for when false news stories and blatant lies are such a HUGE and NECESSARY component of the Alt Right business model. The whole purpose of these false stories is to move Trump voters further into a false reality for the purpose of division and control. They not only separate you from the rest of the country, but much of the world. Look at the sources... look where this is coming from. Do not be a tool or victim to this deception. This stuff is extremely unhealthy.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Everyone really needs to question what exactly they voted for when false news stories and blatant lies are such a HUGE and NECESSARY component of the Alt Right business model. The whole purpose of these false stories is to move Trump voters further into a false reality for the purpose of division and control. They not only separate you from the rest of the country, but much of the world. Look at the sources... look where this is coming from. Do not be a tool or victim to this deception. This stuff is extremely unhealthy.


Why are you politicizing this? This is real. It's sexual torture of children. There is a mound of real evidence that is growing by the day. How does trump have anything to do with this? Do you have proof this originated from trump?
Your post seems like a political deflection from the real content. The question is why are you and many others on this thread choosing to deflect away from a very real investigation of child torture?
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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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This is a very effective effort to divide people and move them into a false reality. A reality where people begin to accept information from only the most unreliable sources. This is an effort by the Alt Right to segregate their supporters into a bubble of complete informational control. By using the justified anger toward the mainstream media they pivot their audience to reject any information provided in mainstream channels. This is an attack on people's minds.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: Arcturian8



This is a very effective effort to divide people and move them into a false reality. A reality where people begin to accept information from only the most unreliable sources. This is an effort by the Alt Right to segregate their supporters into a bubble of complete informational control. By using the justified anger toward the mainstream media they pivot their audience to reject any information provided in mainstream channels. This is an attack on people's minds.


That's a big problem and a different topic altogether. Much of the public has lost trust in corporate media due to collusion with an election campaign. This has forced many to look for alternative forms of media. Unfortunately alternative media is just starting to take off and has a few kinks to work out. This has all made the effort to find truth in anything that much harder.

With "pizzagate" there is definitely some false information, some blatant speculation, and some very real evidence which supports a formal investigation. The question everyone should be asking, is why haven't any of the corporate media agencies been covering this? Not even a whisper.
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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Everyone really needs to question what exactly they voted for when false news stories and blatant lies are such a HUGE and NECESSARY component of the Alt Right business model. The whole purpose of these false stories is to move Trump voters further into a false reality for the purpose of division and control. They not only separate you from the rest of the country, but much of the world. Look at the sources... look where this is coming from. Do not be a tool or victim to this deception. This stuff is extremely unhealthy.


I hear you but this thread is not about news stories - fake or otherwise. It is about what may have been discovered in the Podesta (and others) Wikileaks email.

And no one disputes the validity of those emails.

I know you're on a crusade about "fake" news from the other threads you've started and/or participated in, but this is *not* the thread for it. It's way OT.

Please stop.



Thanks for your support.

- The OP



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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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Alefantis getting questioned outside Comet P by a couple of people, if anyone is interested.
mobile.twitter.com...



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
Alefantis getting questioned outside Comet P by a couple of people, if anyone is interested.
mobile.twitter.com...[/q

Wow.

People are really trying to get to the bottom of this.

Maybe the truth will out as they say....



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter
Just have to keep him talking and hope he trips up. But you need to be asking the tough questions and not get nervous like the guy in the video. He wasn't alpha enough. Alenfantis wasn't under enough pressure, sure, he invited him in but so would I after I've had a week to destroy evidence. That's the problem with internet investigations, can't keep it quiet.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

This is absolutely a thread about fake news. In this case, the OP asks if there is any validity to Pizzagate.

Pizzagate Conspiracy - snopes.com - FALSE
www.snopes.com...

This is an alt-right misinformation and deception effort to further sway Trump voters away from reality to the alt right's bubble of informational control. It's purpose is to divide and conquer. Don't fall for it. Examine the sources for Pizzagate. Nothing but trash fringe.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: Arcturian8
The question everyone should be asking, is why haven't any of the corporate media agencies been covering this? Not even a whisper.


This right here. This is exactly the tactic perpetrated by alt right fringe news.

The obvious answer to your question is because the story is trash. However, because of the effort to migrate people to a false reality, they will use this kind of question to lead their followers to the conclusion that the media not touching the story is evidence of guilt. Expect them to hammer this point as proof of a conspiracy.

This is an extremely toxic effort to separate Trump voters from the rest of society. Do not fall for it.
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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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Nonsense. Snopes is a disinfo rag itself. What exactly was proven FALSE? Saying it's false because Snopes said so is circular logic. Albeit, all information so far has been purely circumstantial, but circumstantial evidence is...circumstantial. It doesn't prove nor disprove any of the aforementioned evidence.

Oh ffs. Snopes is citing NYT as it's source. Nuff said. You're going to have to do better
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posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Nonsense. Snopes is a disinfo rag itself. What exactly was proven FALSE? Saying it's false because Snopes said so is circular logic. Albeit, all information so far has been purely circumstantial, but circumstantial evidence is...circumstantial. It doesn't prove nor disprove any of the aforementioned evidence.


See what I mean. Now Snopes is a disinformation rag despite the fact that it is a highly reputable fact checking site?

Factcheck.org : Snopes.com
www.factcheck.org...

Is Snopes accurate?
www.reference.com...#



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Nonsense. Snopes is a disinfo rag itself. What exactly was proven FALSE? Saying it's false because Snopes said so is circular logic. Albeit, all information so far has been purely circumstantial, but circumstantial evidence is...circumstantial. It doesn't prove nor disprove any of the aforementioned evidence.


See what I mean. Now Snopes is a disinformation rag despite the fact that it is a highly reputable fact checking site?

Factcheck.org : Snopes.com
www.factcheck.org...

Is Snopes accurate?
www.reference.com...#


No, not "now" always. I've discovered tons of crap they pull. They base their journalism off cherry picking and straw man arguments. They used NYT as their source but didn't even cite NYT as their source under "sources" Have you read the NYT version? They cite themselves. The CEO of NYT Mark Thompson also was busted lying years ago about Jimmy Savile. UK's notorious PEDO scandal. Sorry, do better.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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momentary i just ask myself if the police sketches of the alleged raptors of madeleine mc cann are real or not.
and why isnt there general uproar about the twitter thing? is it even real ? if so many people are worried about stuff journalists should show up and investigate, and maybe debunk things reasonably. i can´t see much of that- all i see is bashing "false news sources" in a very general, broad and dangerous way.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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Snopes uses the following sources in it's debunk:


Hayes, Laura. "The Consequences Of 'Pizza Gate' Are Real At Comet Ping Pong."
Washington City Paper. 15 November 2016.

Peterson, Eric. "This Salt Lake City Day Care Has Become a Magnet for Conspiracy Theories."
Vice. 23 February 2016.

Sommer, Will. "Alt Right Conspiracy Theorists Obsess Over Comet Ping Pong."
Washington City Paper. 6 November 2016.


Of these, there is a thread regarding one of the stories, "SLC Creepy Daycare Saga"

The other is this:


Type Alternative weekly
Format Tabloid
Owner(s) SouthComm
Publisher Eric Norwood
Editor Liz Garrigan
Founded 1981, as 1981
Headquarters 1400 Eye St. N.W., Suite 900
Washington, DC 20005
Circulation 68,059 weekly in 2011[1]
Website washingtoncitypaper.com


Wikipeadia

Two of their 3 references are the same tabloid paper.

alt-left much?



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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That's all they do. They bash the alternative news but don't bother to disprove anything. How can they call it fake news BEFORE they even do a story on it? See? It's bs



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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Let's cut to the chase...

There is not a single reputable source that supports the Pizzagate conspiracy.

This is an effort by the Alt Right to further pull Trump voters away from truth. Misinformation and lies are a major component to their business model. They use your justified distrust of media to migrate you into a false reality where they control the information you trust. A false reality where people completely ignore all reputable fact-based sources.



posted on Nov, 22 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: TheFlyOnTheWall
a reply to: glowdog

That's all they do. They bash the alternative news but don't bother to disprove anything. How can they call it fake news BEFORE they even do a story on it? See? It's bs


The Alt-Right is pushing for a story by mainstream news. The result will be the MSM will accurately state Pizzagate is baseless. However, by penetrating the mainstream media and making millions of people aware of the term Pizzagate who previously never heard of it, the Alt-Right (or whoever is behind this) will hope to use that new attention and the "baseless" claim by MSM to say this is proof of a massive conspiracy that the MSM are involved in. It's all a bunch of mind-f#cking and lies and it's meant to confuse and divide people.
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