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Is Pizzagate an actual "thing" or is it limited to ATS & a few other sites

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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: reldra

I rarely, if ever agree with you, but alas...you are making a valid point in this thread that others are ignoring and dismissing. I agree that reading through the threads that many are looking at connections through their own pre-perceived biases.

I admit that I have seen it from both sides throughout this past election. Pictures and emails taken out of context...that have been promoted as proof of disgusting behavior. I agree that those researching this pizzagate issue, should temper their 'enthusiasm of discovery' with more diligent digging and questioning.

I believe you are correct in your opinion that if this becomes tagged as a simple witch hunt, all will be for naught, and many will turn away from the real truth hidden and found.





posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

not about elijah woods but other big names involved
www.youtube.com...

( link to documentary "an open secret" An investigation into accusations of teenagers being sexually abused within the film industry.
Director: Amy Berg )

www.theguardian.com...

not surprised that this docu did not get exposure...


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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: glowdog

You must not be in the U.S.

WHen i tried seeing the video I got this message from Youtube:




This video contains content from BR Music Copyrights. It is not available in your country.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:06 AM
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Twitter has a major CP problem of it's own. It's now protecting pedophiles and censoring those attempting to expose them.
Remember: Saudi Arabia owns a major stake in Twitter...also Twitter's CEO is on the board of Disney.

An ex-Anon (0HOUR1) just exposed hundreds/thousands of operational CP Twitter accounts (these were serious) and he was immediately banned by Twitter.
Fortunately, he/they tagged the FBI on each of them.

The CP accounts have remained operational for years, yet those who expose them get banned immediately. WTF?

www.reddit.com...

twitter.com...
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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:52 AM
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I have no idea if this "pizzagate" thing is a thing or not. That's not to say that anyone found guilty of such horrendous crimes shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law.Wwith that said, how do we know by 'researching' such a possibility on places like reddit, 4chan etc. that they aren't seriously impeding law enforcement from investigating these allegations. Could they in fact be initiating the destruction of evidence by guilty parties? In essence warning the perpetrators to bury their sick perversions even further into the muck or obliterating any leads legitimate investigators have of catching such deviants.

I pray not!!



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

Not sure if it'll work in this scenario but it's certainly worth a shot...

convert2mp3.net...

Put the video's URL in there and convert it to MP4, download when ready and away you go.

a reply to: Kukri

Law enforcement don't act on it, we've seen the proof. For instance, MI5 told the Metropolitan Police to not investigate claims of wanton paedophilia within the upper echelons of Whitehall. I'm sure the same is happening in the US as well, nobody's going to be investigating themselves for killing children, are they?



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Twitter has a major CP problem of it's own. It's now protecting pedophiles and censoring those attempting to expose them.
Remember: Saudi Arabia owns a major stake in Twitter...also Twitter's CEO is on the board of Disney.

An ex-Anon (0HOUR1) just exposed hundreds/thousands of operational CP Twitter accounts (these were serious) and he was immediately banned by Twitter.
Fortunately, he/they tagged the FBI on each of them.

The CP accounts have remained operational for years, yet those who expose them get banned immediately. WTF?

www.reddit.com...

twitter.com...


My god...where will it end?

And who's looking out for the children?

WTF is wrong with people?!?

If true, in this instance I think we should bring back public executions by firing squad. And televise it for all the world to see.


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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: flyingdutchman2112

So, it's a thing in the sense people like you don't actually know what the word proof means.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: fractal5

"The other thing is that people that rich generally don't have either pizza parties or hot dog parties"

You might actually be a moron. Seriously. Then you actually say, "They have a basis in sound reasoning, like the reasoning outlined above." Yes, sound reasoning, such as you believe people that makes a certain amount of money don't like pizza parties, lol.

Facebook and Twitter are correct to silence people like you. Now, if you ACTUALLY want to do something, why don't you bust into Comet Pizza and dig up the tunnels. Take one picture. That's all. I mean, if these horrendous crimes are occurring, no one is investigating because you don't actually have any evidence of anything, doesn't not doing anything to obtain evidence make YOU complicit?



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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Its not a thing and a lot of people here have come off like child pornography obsessed perverts themselves. There are a lot of degenerates on ats. When people are seeing the kiddie porn smoke in hopes that there's a fire then we have a huge problem with the demographic of users on this site. If anything, a decent person would hope there was no fire, but people here keep convincing themselves there is still something going and yet...no real evidence. So in reality, who's the actual obsessive perverts here? Well it's the freaks who keep projecting their sick fantasies to the world.

Anyone who brought stuff like this up in the workplace would be fired for making others uncomfortable. It's so gross.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: reldra

I rarely, if ever agree with you, but alas...you are making a valid point in this thread that others are ignoring and dismissing. I agree that reading through the threads that many are looking at connections through their own pre-perceived biases.

I admit that I have seen it from both sides throughout this past election. Pictures and emails taken out of context...that have been promoted as proof of disgusting behavior. I agree that those researching this pizzagate issue, should temper their 'enthusiasm of discovery' with more diligent digging and questioning.

I believe you are correct in your opinion that if this becomes tagged as a simple witch hunt, all will be for naught, and many will turn away from the real truth hidden and found.



I just hope you are 100% sure about what you are saying. 100%. I also think you have not really looked into this by yourself as nobody who actually did, can come away with your and redra's opinion.

So I say it again. I hope you are 100% certain that this is absolutely nothing, which I really hope it is [nothing]. I really hope it is just silly, sex mad rich people making fun of kids and liking teens in underwear art. I really hope they used the paedo signs because they are naive. I hope they encode stuff because it is embarrassing and not illegal. I really hope so but I am not 100% sure. How an you be, and can you afford to be?

Did you think Jimmy Saville would also not go and pay wardens to go into homes for disabled kids and have sex with them there? Regularly! Because there was no actual evidence of that at first either. It took many people and many accusations before he was taken seriously. Some people were 100% sure he was just a funny looking DJ.




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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Hecate666

Maybe you should have used 100% a few more times in that post. Can never have too many strawmen.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: oddnutz
an update to pizzagate.

in the last hour an account on twitter "(0) @0hour" (associated with the group anonymous) started sharing accounts of pedophiles on twitter, these accounts had hundreds of followers and some had images and videos displayed right on their twitter feeds. I did not personally verify any of this for obvious reasons and because there are some things I just do not want to see in the name of denying ignorance.
0hour was also tagging the FBI in the tweets and has since had is twitter account suspended.


He had his twitter account suspended?!?

WTF is up with Twitter?

It's getting to the point where I may look for an alternate means of communicating in that manner...



Ya and here the DataBase that they made in 6 hours before they got suspended

Some Proof

Safe link to see
link
link



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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it´s a tough topic...a taboo. talking about it won´t make friends at work or anywhere. and i think the silence around it is what is most hurtful for the victims.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: BrokedownChevy

I think you grossly misunderstand. There is an abundance of people who are taking this matter so seriously that they will trawl through the evidence potentially at the risk of their own sanity, integrity and possibly even security, so as to better understand the situation and figure out how we can fix it.

Accusing people of getting off on this subject is an appalling attitude. It's like saying a paramedic likes to see people die, or social workers like to see children suffering, or that undertakers are necrophiliacs, or that firefighters are arsonists. I mean, come on now.

I'm personally looking into this because I already knew there is a genuine problem with cannibalism, let alone paedophilia. And I'm a vegetarian, so good luck accusing me of getting off on that side of things. In fact, I'm became a vegetarian specifically because I realised that this is indeed a problem.

One good thing that has come out of this for me is that I know to avoid places if they're blatantly flaunting symbols and other indications that they are a front for paedophilia. I'd never even thought about this until a few days ago, now I know some of the signs (like the Time Warner logo) and I know to stay away from places and products that use them.

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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: glowdog
it´s a tough topic...a taboo. talking about it won´t make friends at work or anywhere. and i think the silence around it is what is most hurtful for the victims.


What's stupid is they are using the taboo specifically as a weapon to justify the claims.

Disbelieving in Pizzagate = Supporter of Pedophilia

is the bulk of their argument.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: BrokedownChevy
now I know some of the signs (like the Time Warner logo) and I know to stay away from places and products that use them.


I love how you think consumerism boycott is the appropriate response.

That will show them!!!



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: imjack

Disbelieving in Pizzagate = Supporter of Pedophilia

is the bulk of their argument.

Not really, everybody is entitled to their opinions and not everybody will agree.

Persistently claiming the situation is absolutely false and routinely attacking people is, in my opinion, supportive of what we are truly fighting against here. Take your side if you will, just be prepared to take your place against the wall if you choose wrongly.


originally posted by: imjack

I love how you think consumerism boycott is the appropriate response.

It's not a boycott, I just take my health and sanity very seriously. I don't really like the idea of accidentally eating a child.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Hecate666
Not sure where you are getting the idea that I or others are 100% anything. My point was not dismissing the need for investigative work, but the fallacy of declaring one is 100% positive in their biased analysis. Where there is smoke, there is a fire...one just needs to remember that smoke blows in the winds. It seems more are following the smoke trails and becoming engulfed in the smoke. Best to crawl out and find a way to look out over the whole field to see where the smoke really is coming from.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: pianopraze

Of COURSE conspiracy belongs on ATS. But this one should always be skunkworks, at the very least. This one is talked about more by the less serious conspiracy sites, like GLP and BIN. Reddit talks about it some, I know. But it is just has little to back it up.



I'm sorry, but there were emails that made no sense unless Podesta was talking in code. A plausible theory was made for what that code could allude to that made sense. I am still waiting for someone to come up with an alternative theory on that code that also makes sense.

So far no one has. The best anyone can do is tell us we're nuts, and that does nothing to dispel the disquiet.


Nobody has come up with an alternative because the only people "investigating" this topic are the people who want it to be all about a secret pedo ring. Those threads are the epitome of an echo chamber.



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