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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: DBCowboy
I do not agree that this is a free speech issue. It's an issue of whether or not a paying customer has the right to not be harassed by employee's.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Realtruth
I'm all for free speech, and the 1st amendment, but what a bunch of whining a-holes. Typically the audience are the patron's/guest to be treated with respect for even showing up.
The message was condescending, presumptuous, directed at one person, and racist. Pence went to see a play that he paid for, not to listen to a flippin lecture on racism, because the play said all that already. smh
Pence should have asked for his money back, because singling an audience member out, then giving him a condescending presumptuous lecture is way over the top ignorant.
Trump ran a campaign which sought to completely destroy what we used to consider conventional politeness and common courtesy. Political correctness was out the window - saying it like it is, no matter how many people it offended - was supposed to be our new way forward
People were told to toughen up, shake it off - not be such whiny snowflakes
Pence will face much worse than this. He's Vice President. He's an elected official - not a deity
The cast of Hamilton was actually quite polite even if what they did was unusual
I love how people crave conventional politeness and decorum when it's for their people - but insist other people just suck it up when the crap is flying in the other direction
The hypocrisy is pretty thick these days
But let's give him the benefit of the doubt, ignore years of his political discourse and his voting record on certain matters, and give him the ball to run with? I mean, it's only the nation and its unit cohesion that is on the line here, nothing important or major at all!
originally posted by: Logarock
originally posted by: Hefficide
Leader of movement that was largely built on rejection of political correctness and a hatred of SJW nonsense... Tweets this two hours ago:
But really where have we seen the cast of something act like this? Was their something they thought Mike missed? Was what they said to Mike germain to any part of the production? And they would have been called racist or something it the shoe was on the other foot. They have Trumps response coming.
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: BlueAjah
55% of eligible voters, voted. Less than half of half of American voters support Donald Trump.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
According to any standards of decency, it was rude. Remember when we kept our politics and religion to ourselves?
originally posted by: mobiusmale
I think that they handled this in a respectful and low key manner...it kind of put Pence in a tough spot, but I am sure his shoulders are broad enough, and there is nothing wrong with people in power listening to people's concerns (however unfounded they may be).
Personally, I place the blame for all of this post-election hysteria squarely on the shoulders of two networks. Those are the MSM and Democratic Party, who hard-sold the concept of Trump and his supporters (fully half of the Country!!) as sexists, racists, fascists, homophobes, xenophobes and generally crazy and dangerous people (with guns!) and...night after night, broadcast after broadcast, speech after speech...kept pounding this message out that a Trump Presidency would mean the end of the world as we know it.
So, of course, thousands - if not millions - of people felt disoriented, scared, confused, helpless and hopeless after Trump won. Of course these media sponges were shocked and horrified. Because the MSM and Democratic Party had brainwashed them all into believing that a win by the Republicans would mean their lives were over.
Never underestimate the power of propoganda, delivered by sober-faced and serious-sounding "experts", pundits, special interests and politicians - especially when it is uber-coordinated behind the scenes (spend some time with Podesta's Wikileaks file), to create a fog of fear within the populace.
I say, let these folks (the frightened ones) have their say, let them cry and pet their stress dogs, let them hold up their signs and chant their slogans for a while. Pretty soon they will begin to wake up to the fact that the sun is still coming up every day, and their lives are unchanged.
Longer term, assuming Trump is able to deliver on his platform...the immigration system will begin to function properly again, jobs and prosperity will begin to come back, women, African Americans, Hispanics, LGBTQ people (and others) will be treated fairly and equally under the law.
The true travesty here is the mind-screw that has been perpetrated on the masses by the MSM and the Democrats (with the help of the entertainment industry of course), and how many people have ended up with the hard-implanted notion that it is okay to fear and hate Republicans, white (privileged) people, masculinity, conservatives, the religious (unless they are Muslim of course), the successful (the evil 1%, capitalists), the climate change "deniers", the politically incorrect, etc. - all the while accusing these groups of being the hateful ones and the ones creating fear.
I truly do hope that the Trump Administration will be able to put the lie to the "ist" attack tactics of the MSM and the Democratic Party - and that they will come to understand that this is not a winning strategy for future elections. Maybe then there will be more rational discourse about the actual issues of the day, as opposed to the trading of character assassination attempts.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Realtruth
He is the willing Vice President to a bombastic tool (which, nice choice of words)