originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: AnkhMorpork
You are sadly mistaken about this supposed Jesus character.
Any idiot can read the Bible and see no victory was had, he died for nothing and the PTB were emboldened and stronger than ever.
This has got to be the funniest thing I have read on ATS in almost a year.
No, I think you're sadly mistaken and missed it, the nature of the double bind that he placed on them by using their own violence against him, against
Jesus Christ the Magus
A few little details that lends the story a high degree of authenticity, imho, is the spear in the side with the blood and water pouring out
), how his legs were not broken like the others since he expired quickly
after drinking from a sponge on a hyssop stick, the lunar eclipse that evening (April 3rd, 33AD), how Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea petitioned
Pontius Pilate to take the body down early (lest it defile the Passover) and take it to a newly minted tomb owned by Arimathea, to which Nicodemus
took 70 pounds of aloa (that's quite a lot) to coat the body, and how after three days in that tomb and walking around again, no one seemed to
recognize him unless he wanted them to (think disguise - ie: what they can do to a man once they can try to do a 2nd time).
Leonardo da Vinci appears to have understood it perfectly, but seemed to think that Jesus got off relatively easy and that John the Baptist was the
real unsung hero as the first martyr for the cause and the likely originator of this great hoodwink, which was aimed squarely and directly at the PTB
of their day including a corrupted temple and administration under Roman occupation which was engaged in a type of class warfare that was subjugating
their people with heavy taxes and land grabs and who'd also lost the spiritual dimension of the heart of the law.
What I think you missed, due to a lack of open-mindedness and willingness and with a certain contempt, prior to investigation, is what this teaches
us, not only about a standard of Truth and Justice and Liberty but the import and export of the true nature of power and authority.
This may seem to be off-topic I realize, but it's not, since history repeats itself and because there is still a universal controversy swirling around
the issue of authority and Spiritual Authority, between that which comes only to be served, and the higher authority that came only to serve and for
the sake and cause of our mutual glorification born of an unwavering love and a level of understanding and knowledge and awareness that we are perhaps
only beginning to see and recognize for what it represents as an authentic model of Leadership capable of doing battle in a clash with evil empire,
and yes, triumphing over it in a restoration that made all things new.
And when a certain crowd of people were later confronted who were among the same people who were escorted (bussed..) into the praetorium (not the same
crowd who welcomed Jesus when he rode through the East Gate) for the mockery of a trial, and came to understand what they'd been led to participate
in, they were beside themselves with grief (what did we do?!), and asked - what can we do? in response to which they were invited to also enter into
his full emersion water baptism of death and resurrection.
As a type of very grave and very practical joke told at the expense of everything that deserved to be mocked and derided, no one but God through the
person of Jesus, could have perpetuated it or plotted it so well. In fact, he even loved the people who did it to him and, by knowing their every move
well in advance, did them a real favor of sorts where blessed are those among them who were brought willingly to their knees at the realization and
And don't think that variations of this dynamic and theme do not continue to play themselves out to this very day.
Bannon, if by some digital miracle this thread has come to your attention, put all that in your pipe and smoke it! LOL
And for the record, I think that my interpretation in the OP was faulty and that he was referring to what they are saying about him and trying to
paint him as, while pointing out how empowering it is for them to be so wrong while also mocking the old Cheney Neocon guard at the same time, which
shows that he's a bit of a genius and one who who's not without a great sense of humor and irony, so he's my kind of guy.
edit on 20-11-2016 by AnkhMorpork because: (no reason given)