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EXCLUSIVE: Three Pakistani Men Apprehended in U.S. at Arizona Border

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posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: eluryh22

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: roaland

I have to wonder, for every one that is caught, how many aren't?



I sometimes wonder.... how is it that for decades, despite the intermittent "surges".... how is it possible that the number of illegal aliens in the United States is 11 to 13 million? Years and years and decades and decades and countless border crossings.... but the number stays the same. Hhhmmm.


More are going home than coming in. Especially in regard to Mexicans.


More are breeding on this side of the pond. Creating a revolving door of poverty and need. I am willing to bet you don't live anywhere near the problem. I live in TX. It's a serious problem. Poverty, drugs, gangs. Every single day more violence and killing by hispanics and illegals in the news down here. It's horrible.




posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: LifeMode

If the media were doing their job, more of those stories may make it past the local level. Sadly, by not telling the full truth about the damage that illegal immigration causes, it hurts the very people the media and the Left, along with many Americans, claim they are trying to help.
edit on 17-11-2016 by roaland because: spelling



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: roaland

How Many have Already entered San Francisco ?



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

lol no idea. It is a sanctuary city i believe.



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: roaland

The article sets an ominous tone but as far as I can tell, they dont state that the men were trying to nor did enter illegally?

Just that they were apprehended and in custody.

Seems like they may have been trying to enter legally but were detained?

In the following quote, it sounds like typical protocol when someone is entering the country, even referring to it as an "immigration" case?


As a standard procedure, agents processed the individuals and checked their identities against numerous law enforcement and national security related databases. Record checks revealed no derogatory information about the individuals. The individuals are currently in Federal custody while they await the outcome of their immigration cases.



edit on 17-11-2016 by gladtobehere because: wording



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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building a wall isn`t the perfect solution but it`s a lot better and more effective than doing NOTHING!



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

while it doesn't say if it was at a crossing or over a fence, it does state


“One of them had a sh*t load of hits from a bunch of places he’s been. He had entered and exited numerous countries that were not in his route to the U.S. This raises red flags because people leaving a foreign country to come here usually take the quickest route, but one of them did not,” said one of the sources.


hence: why they were detained and held. Not just let go. red flags bad. And if it was at a legal crossing why were they held until trial instead of the standard process and release that's normally done under Obama if there wasn't a problem?
edit on 17-11-2016 by roaland because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: brutus61

originally posted by: jtrenthacker
Also:

APNEWSBREAK: US RELEASES HAITIANS COMING FROM MEXICO

I just don't understand why so many in our country are against protecting our borders. It's just makes sense.


because so many of the democrats who believe they are above the law think it won't be criminals coming over but good wholesome people. They have lost sight of reality.


And the Republicans have a firm grasp on reality? Let's build a wall, that will mainly enrich manufacturers of ladders and be an eminent domain nightmare and be incredibly ugly. It will just create better tunnels. Then, to pay for it, we tax moneygrams or put a 35% tarrif on imported Mexican goods= really hurting the economy of an ally.

No one has stopped to think it might be to keep us in?


there are already boarders to keep honest people in



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: eluryh22

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: roaland

I have to wonder, for every one that is caught, how many aren't?



I sometimes wonder.... how is it that for decades, despite the intermittent "surges".... how is it possible that the number of illegal aliens in the United States is 11 to 13 million? Years and years and decades and decades and countless border crossings.... but the number stays the same. Hhhmmm.


More are going home than coming in. Especially in regard to Mexicans.



You need to show some proof of that statement. But that would be hard to do. While those that leave are counted as they drive across the border, those that sneak across are hardly counted--unless you want to use Obama's numbers that the border patrol say are false by about 50%.



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 09:14 PM
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I am sure there will be a way this gets spun into an argument for completely open borders by the extreme left.

Having completely open borders will actually make it MORE likely we capture and apprehend these dangerous elements....


edit on 17-11-2016 by Darkphoenix77 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Because we have this silly thing called the constitution that calls for punishments that fit the crime.
Replied to the wrong person, I know your comment was agreeing with this sentiment.
edit on thThu, 17 Nov 2016 22:36:19 -0600America/Chicago1120161980 by Sremmos80 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Annee

Because we have this silly thing called the constitution that calls for punishments that fit the crime.
Replied to the wrong person, I know your comment was agreeing with this sentiment.


I lived on the border. I've heard the Shoot to Kill sentiment many times.

I went to school with a girl who escaped East Berlin with her family, running across a field at night, with guards shooting randomly in the dark. Her family made it. Many did not.

Who are we?



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: jhn7537
Why can't we just have border patrol that is "shoot to kill if you cross this border unauthorized"...


Charming.


Well, a response from a bleeding heart liberal like you is not surprising...


Please explain what is Liberal about me?



posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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This country has a proud tradition of immigration.

To be against immigration is un american.




posted on Nov, 17 2016 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Annee

Because we have this silly thing called the constitution that calls for punishments that fit the crime.
Replied to the wrong person, I know your comment was agreeing with this sentiment.


I lived on the border. I've heard the Shoot to Kill sentiment many times.

I went to school with a girl who escaped East Berlin with her family, running across a field at night, with guards shooting randomly in the dark. Her family made it. Many did not.

Who are we?


These people are not escaping cruel Socialism, and we are not putting up a wall to keep people in. Keep making false comparisons though it is funny as hell. The Berlin wall wasn't made by the West to keep people out it was made by one of your ideal communist utopias to keep their subjects from escaping. Apples to oranges. We have an immigration process that any of them can apply for and go through, they are not being deprived a chance to immigrate here.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

no logic is needed for blind partisanship banter. i love it.
even though you mentioned that, and its the first thing i flagged, this back and forth will go for another 3 pages until the next similar thread is created.

make murka great again trump.
if only the natives had a shoot to kill policy against trespassers on their homeland a few hundred years ago.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: reldra

Yeah, sure they are. I know border crossers, never heard of any leaving



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

Why do you have a lock on your door at home or your car? Why do you have a fence in your yard?
Because you want to dictate who comes into or on your property, that's why.

Sorry I had to answer for you because libs just don't comprehend.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: eluryh22

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: roaland

I have to wonder, for every one that is caught, how many aren't?



I sometimes wonder.... how is it that for decades, despite the intermittent "surges".... how is it possible that the number of illegal aliens in the United States is 11 to 13 million? Years and years and decades and decades and countless border crossings.... but the number stays the same. Hhhmmm.


More are going home than coming in. Especially in regard to Mexicans.



You need to show some proof of that statement. But that would be hard to do. While those that leave are counted as they drive across the border, those that sneak across are hardly counted--unless you want to use Obama's numbers that the border patrol say are false by about 50%.


Like the proof of Obama faking data on deporting more than any other President. All he did was start counting those turned away at the border which is not deportation. Deportation is a more severe legal proceeding involving courts.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: brutus61

originally posted by: jtrenthacker
Also:

APNEWSBREAK: US RELEASES HAITIANS COMING FROM MEXICO

I just don't understand why so many in our country are against protecting our borders. It's just makes sense.


because so many of the democrats who believe they are above the law think it won't be criminals coming over but good wholesome people. They have lost sight of reality.


And the Republicans have a firm grasp on reality? Let's build a wall, that will mainly enrich manufacturers of ladders and be an eminent domain nightmare and be incredibly ugly. It will just create better tunnels. Then, to pay for it, we tax moneygrams or put a 35% tarrif on imported Mexican goods= really hurting the economy of an ally.

No one has stopped to think it might be to keep us in?


Keep us IN???? Because Americans are running for the Mexican border day and night by the thousands, illegally infiltrating the Mexican populace???? Don't think so but nice try. Besides, it would be near impossible to wall in the USA.

It has been reported many times in the past that ME immigrants would be attempting to cross into the USA via the MX/USA border. Another reason our border needs to be secured.



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