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Sawed Off .22 Rifle

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posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 02:36 AM
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Yeah sawn off to make it concealable and usable at short range

Today's air rifles are far weaker than they were in the 70s and 80s and the old German air rifles from that period have some serious power




posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 02:44 AM
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a reply to: Aeshma

They also make cartridge guns. It was a surprise to me.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 02:57 AM
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Now assuming the guys not been in serious trouble with plod then he could of legally purchased an air pistol, ok they're meant for plunking paper targets or rats and are pretty weak but with a change to the spring etc i'd bet you could turn it into a killing machine for a lot less effort than modifying a rifle.

But i just can't help of thinking of 'big vern' from the uk viz comic



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 05:57 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

On the street maybe.

But from regulated gun sellers here in Britain? No... not a chance, not to take home with you anyway.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Maxatoria

Turns out his modified cartridge gun was not a killing machine.


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The bolt-action gun had had its shoulder stock and all but 4cm of its barrel removed, Mr Horne said. This, jurors heard, would have made the now 29cm (12-inch) weapon fireable with one hand, but decreased the penetrating power of the resulting shot . . . Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Now I've done a bit of research I know sawed off rifles are sometimes used by criminals.


The propellant gasses dissipate with an extremely short barrel.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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The mount of firearm ignorance in this thread is truly appalling.



posted on Nov, 18 2016 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: Cohen the Barbarian

Please de-ignorise us.

There is an urgent need for British people to understand what this alleged murder is all about. This forum is strictly weapons not politics. From this thread I hope to get accurate information that can be used in other forums.



posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 01:17 AM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

I'm well aware of the power of air rifles, I am also well aware by sawing off the barrel he seriously diminished it's potential and the damn man ruined a freaking gem.

Weirach make some of the best air guns anywhere, and those who love them would also react as I just did when seeing one butchered.

Loons do stupid things.



posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun

The austrian army fielded letal air guns in.46 caliber in the 1780s... 30 shots from a full air reservoir, each rifle carried 20 lead shots in a built in magazine. Each soldier carried 3 air reservoirs and 100 shot. Effective out to 125 yards. Roman empire used these as well.

Extremely high technology for the time. Not only could you shoot 20 shots sith out stopping to reload, but there was no muzzle flash. No clouds of smoke to obscure vision but also much less noise.

Fire arms were cheaper and easier to produce, or we all would have been using air guns.
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posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: Cohen the Barbarian

Please de-ignorise us.

There is an urgent need for British people to understand what this alleged murder is all about. This forum is strictly weapons not politics. From this thread I hope to get accurate information that can be used in other forums.


FWIW, my comment was not intended to be political. It was a comment on several posts in this thread that showed the poster(s) were not as familiar with firearms (or air rifles) as they would like readers to believe. Usually a quick search on Google could help them make more intelligent comments, but that's too much work. I can't help but think of the old saw, "Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Since I live in a relatively free country, my knowledge of British gun laws is very limited. Better to learn from British gun owners what travails they have to endure.

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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 02:29 AM
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a reply to: Cohen the Barbarian

I meant I have to be careful not to follow a political angle here.

I didn't even search sawed off .22 before starting this thread. Now I know they are a fairly common criminals gun in the UK and Australia, whereas in this thread the only person who's seen one says it belonged to a kid and they fired it underwater. A bit of research shows people who ask 'Should I buy a cheap .22 and cut it down for use on a trap line' are told, 'Don't be silly, buy a pistol if that's what you want'. Using a sawed-off seems to be usually because rifles and shotguns are so much easier to find in the UK and Australia.

I'm waiting for the police to give some indication of where the gun came from. Probably stolen, therefore usable as anti-hunting propaganda, but that's for another forum.

I hunted with Weihrauch airguns for years and I never knew they made cartridge guns as well. As you say, a quick google search works.


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If I can dare to stray a little bit, choosing a Weihrauch brings in the airgun associations. The story behind this gun is far to perfect to be true.
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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: Nickn3
You should see what's in my truck. Most Brits would have an orgasm just from looking in the gun rack.


You really are unbelievably ignorant about cultures that don't fall into your own stereotypical formula aren't you? Maybe you should get out a bit more and spend some time with Brits before making statements like this.



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 03:36 AM
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a reply to: Imagewerx

The feral pigs foolishly introduced under the fanciful notion of Rewilded Wild Boar are reproducing rapidly. Everywhere else in the world where this has happened it's been an ecological disaster.

I love the intelligent and playful feral pigs that are eating their way through the chanterelles and dormice in the Forest of Dean. Having studied the recent population growth and damage first hand I know there is a need for more trained shooters for the sake of the entire ecology in the area. Some of these shooters will be more enthusiastic about the tools than others. Just as with motorbikes, cars, electric guitars or whatever. Some Brits would love his gun rack.

We have a gun culture with all its variants, as you would expect in an area where many predators have been wiped out and the whole system is grossly unbalanced.




posted on Nov, 25 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: Nickn3

So am I. Everyone around here has military firearms, and on some occasions, explosives if they have a FEL.

Idk. I think he'd have been better off with a printed Liberator, but then again, it wasn't a failed assassination.



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