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Racism is NOT why Donald Trump won the election

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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:13 PM
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After watching the events of the past week, I feel I must assert this position for the forums. I do NOT believe racism or white supremecy played a major part in Donald Trumps winning the election. What I DO believe the won Trump the election is the following:

1 A rejection of globalization. Donald Trump consistently held a pro American, anti globalization position throughout the election. Hillary, as her emails revealed, held a neoliberal capitalist/ globalist position of open borders and hemispheric trade and outsourcing, as well as supporting H1B1 visas. Many of the states that voted against her were severely impacted by NAFTA, which she and her husband championed. Obama for months has been trying to push the TPP, which is NAFTA on steroids, and its likely Hillary would have tried to push it through after being elected. People simply did not want more of the same.

2. Trump came off as more honest and candid. Hillary's sound bytes seemed wooden and contrived, Donald came off like he was speaking from his heart, this resonated with a lot of people who are sick of politicians who are just towing a party line.

3. Lastly, Hillary's past and email scandals made her seem untrustworthy. People simply could not vote for someone with 30 years of scandals and fishy behavior.

4. To many voters, it was an act of defiance against the establishment. As Michael Moore correctly posited, Voting for Trump was a "huge F you" to Washington insiders and the political establishment. It might be considered irresponsible, but it simply outlined the level of frustration people feel when they feel they have no voice anymore.

To be sure, there was probably a small subset of voters whose voting might have been rooted in racism or xenophobia, but I believe the vast majority of voters voted for the reasons I outlined and not out of some racist hatred.

I do NOT think it represents some kind of return to the days before civil rights. In my opinion, it has NOTHING to do with racism, it has to do with ECONOMICS. I wish people would calm down and stop the violence and hatred. We are ALL in this together, black, white, brown, yellow and red, man and women.

Please be Americans and respect and support your fellow citizens.

Peace.
edit on 16-11-2016 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)



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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

I dont know how any one can say this country is racist after the last 8 years of a black POTUS. Hillary was white too

so I am not sure why everyone is crying racism.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:20 PM
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Great post, S&F. I wish everyone could see there were many reasons to vote for Trump that had nothing to do with race.

For me, it was 1,3, and 4. But on 4 it was the Foundation and the countries/people that made her family rich just as much as the security breaches. No matter how bad the Trump bashing was, to me she represented a treasonous establishment that has caused the great divide between the upper and middle classes.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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A lot of people get used to operating from a position of weakness. Even after they experience some success in life, they hold on to that habit of dealing from weakness. Some won't even reach out and grab success when it comes by, because they don't know how to operate from a position of strength. Operating from a position of weakness, (victimhood), is like a security blanket. They're loath to turn loose of it

Take a look at the hoops people will jump through to claim/manufacture victimhood for themselves. It's like their life loses meaning if they aren't a victim of some sort or the other.

It's the devil they know.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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It has nothing to do with racism. but maybe its sexism. We are just not ready for a woman to lead .

Black man is fine as long as it is a man. Not saying I agree I just think that has alot to do with it.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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I hate old white women so it was racism for me.


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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011 I pretty much agree with all of your thinking here Open. Racism did not play a 'major' role in this election while later you say that it had NOTHING to do with it, which I beg to differ, it did. As we approach this new administration we need to keep in mind that POTUS Trump did have the support of out and out white racists. We should remember this, that those people were not the majority of Trump voters, nor I would say even a relevant piece of his voting block. But their voices have been heard though out this campaign, using words and terms, arguments and tactics that hide their true nature from more diverse mentalities.

And none of that denies the obvious existence of opposing racism against white people. Those of us who strive to not fall into these age old divides must maintain our own individual diligence in keeping that creeping rot out of our souls.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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Quite Frankly , the Main Reason Mr. Trump Won this Election was because of a Federal Government Induced Stagnant Economy over the Last Ten Years . It caused Widespread Wage Earnings Decline that made most Middle Class Americans Ability to Sustain their Standard of Living near Impossible . This in turn caused an Increase in Voter turnout as a Direct Result of that which gave a Party Outsider like Mr. Trump a Increased Chance of being Elected President . The Silent Majority Spoke Loud and Clear here .


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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: goou111
It has nothing to do with racism. but maybe its sexism. We are just not ready for a woman to lead .

Black man is fine as long as it is a man. Not saying I agree I just think that has alot to do with it.


I completely dissagree here goou. I think we are ready for a woman POTUS. Clinton was just the WRONG woman at the WRONG time. The right woman would have made this the RIGHT time.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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I do believe there were some racist votes. But I don't believe it was in the numbers that resulted in his winning. It was a small subset of voters. Most people are thinking of economics, not racism.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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You missed a main point to Trump's victory.

The media is vastly liberal and had Hillary a easy winner for the last two years. She had won already in so many eyes that they didn't even put of a fight against her except for an old socialist. That old socialist actually had a good chance to take it from her so they fix it good, they wanted no "surprises" with Bernie.

As you suggest, lot's of issues with Clinton, so when you add it up that many felt she had the win no matter what (thanks media), plus those feeling Bernie got rolled, equaled people just not going to the polls in the end.

The liberals voted by not voting...end of story....
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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He has expressed racist words, but words are nothing. Actions on the other hand, that's when you know.
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posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: goou111
It has nothing to do with racism. but maybe its sexism. We are just not ready for a woman to lead .

Black man is fine as long as it is a man. Not saying I agree I just think that has alot to do with it.


I completely dissagree here goou. I think we are ready for a woman POTUS. Clinton was just the WRONG woman at the WRONG time. The right woman would have made this the RIGHT time.


Maybe. Just fyi I think a woman is just as capable. But there is alot of older Americans that flat out dont.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

It's certainly apart of it.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:44 PM
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Hear, Hear! It is about time someone actually came out with an article on this. No one at Trumps rallies could ever say that Trump was racist, homophobic, or anti-semantic. He reached out to all Americans. Hurling these accusations blindly at Mr. Trump was a very lazy way of shutting down people that do not want to do their own homework on the guy. Go ahead trust the news, don’t double check facts and you will stay in a fantasy world build by someone else forever.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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but words are nothing.


We keep hearing this Co, but it is simply not true. It is the same old hackneyed slogan, 'sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me. Even a cursory study of cognitive sciences buries this old saw. The rise of consciousness in the human species is directly linked to and interwoven with our development of language and the words we use.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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And I agree, there are. But one of those older Americans is me. I'm 70 and there are many folk my age that I know who were more than ready for a woman POTUS. It's jus that this sick system coughed up Clinton instead of another woman. Heck if Condelessa had run for the Rs I'd have voted for her over Clinton OR Trump in a heartbeat. Not Palin though, she is the WRONG woman forever and ever amen.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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The liberals voted by not voting...end of story....
a reply to: Xtrozero

The liberals were pretty much told that they were in a safe space so they felt they did not need to vote. You are right, the media had a hand in her losing to Mr. Trump in more ways than one. Complete disrespect for a man that many Americans resonated with was a big problem. They would have done a lot better if they represented him fairly (not as a racist), and let the American people decide. Now they are bitter, still haven't learned, and are throwing a media temper tantrum. It is not pretty.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

but words are nothing.


We keep hearing this Co, but it is simply not true. It is the same old hackneyed slogan, 'sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me. Even a cursory study of cognitive sciences buries this old saw. The rise of consciousness in the human species is directly linked to and interwoven with our development of language and the words we use.



I remember words being nothing, but if you prefer to live in your P.C world, where everything that is ever said is dissected by someone just as qualified as yourself, then that's your decision.



posted on Nov, 16 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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This entire election was centered on and around ignorance, pure and simple. The two representatives were a perfect match for the U.S. public. Completely unaware of anything more than their immediate surroundings. We need to put 50 Big Macs on our flag and call it a day, this country is f**ked.



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